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	<title>Comments on: Harley Is Doomed</title>
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		<title>By: BroadwayJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>BroadwayJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harley doomed? Maybe if it is sold to a conglomerate. 

Maybe Harley needs to slim down, get prices more in line with reality. 

My first Heritage Softail cost $10,400 in 1993. Last last Road King cost me $18,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harley doomed? Maybe if it is sold to a conglomerate. </p>
<p>Maybe Harley needs to slim down, get prices more in line with reality. </p>
<p>My first Heritage Softail cost $10,400 in 1993. Last last Road King cost me $18,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Pointman</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-41518</link>
		<dc:creator>Pointman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have my 1953 Pan chopper in my living room and a new 2010 wide glide for fast interstate riding outside.

While I appreciate the new tech and performance, my Pan will always be my main ride for fun in the sun.

I remember the old H-D shops growing up- the smell of oil, dirty parts on the counters, swearing and dirty jokes, the smell of burnt coffee, and a bottle of whiskey set up for anyone who needed a snort...and customers that knew what they were talking about.

I wish H-D could return to that proven way of keeping customer loyalty- like a second home, but when I walk into the Harley boutiques now- I&#039;m ignored, isolated, and waited on by the staff that drew the shortest straw.

If The Factory continues on it&#039;s course of being a global corporation they will eventually lose the distinction of being an American icon, and will blend into the motorcycle world as an overpriced oddity with no soul, and limited sales.

I see it at most of the old time corporations who went global and now are losing millions from the stupidity of global partnerships- Boeing as an example is producing new planes (years behind schedule because of partners that have never built airplane parts before playing catch up) that can&#039;t be distinguished from Airbus...the difference is fading.

I would like to see H-D survive- but until they&#039;re hammered into reality and return to their core mission-like the Titanic, they won&#039;t know it&#039;s over until they hit the water.

The independent shops will be our only hope like the ones that used to be H-D dealers in the first place- where you know the owner, the mechanics, what they ride, their families, where the beer is, and when&#039;s the next campout.

My mechanic and friend is the only one who rides my Pan besides me- 18&quot; apes and suicide shifter that a new H-D &quot;tech&quot; couldn&#039;t even kick start- let alone work on it. (6 volt-mechanical advance points/condenser-generator-mechanical brakes-original wishbone frame uncut)

I like the atmosphere if Independent Shops and the trust factor is absolute.

So, while I may have bought a new bike for meat and potatoes riding- I use Independent shops for the real work to keep me rolling.

The road is my shepherd....I shall not stop..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have my 1953 Pan chopper in my living room and a new 2010 wide glide for fast interstate riding outside.</p>
<p>While I appreciate the new tech and performance, my Pan will always be my main ride for fun in the sun.</p>
<p>I remember the old H-D shops growing up- the smell of oil, dirty parts on the counters, swearing and dirty jokes, the smell of burnt coffee, and a bottle of whiskey set up for anyone who needed a snort&#8230;and customers that knew what they were talking about.</p>
<p>I wish H-D could return to that proven way of keeping customer loyalty- like a second home, but when I walk into the Harley boutiques now- I&#8217;m ignored, isolated, and waited on by the staff that drew the shortest straw.</p>
<p>If The Factory continues on it&#8217;s course of being a global corporation they will eventually lose the distinction of being an American icon, and will blend into the motorcycle world as an overpriced oddity with no soul, and limited sales.</p>
<p>I see it at most of the old time corporations who went global and now are losing millions from the stupidity of global partnerships- Boeing as an example is producing new planes (years behind schedule because of partners that have never built airplane parts before playing catch up) that can&#8217;t be distinguished from Airbus&#8230;the difference is fading.</p>
<p>I would like to see H-D survive- but until they&#8217;re hammered into reality and return to their core mission-like the Titanic, they won&#8217;t know it&#8217;s over until they hit the water.</p>
<p>The independent shops will be our only hope like the ones that used to be H-D dealers in the first place- where you know the owner, the mechanics, what they ride, their families, where the beer is, and when&#8217;s the next campout.</p>
<p>My mechanic and friend is the only one who rides my Pan besides me- 18&#8243; apes and suicide shifter that a new H-D &#8220;tech&#8221; couldn&#8217;t even kick start- let alone work on it. (6 volt-mechanical advance points/condenser-generator-mechanical brakes-original wishbone frame uncut)</p>
<p>I like the atmosphere if Independent Shops and the trust factor is absolute.</p>
<p>So, while I may have bought a new bike for meat and potatoes riding- I use Independent shops for the real work to keep me rolling.</p>
<p>The road is my shepherd&#8230;.I shall not stop..</p>
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		<title>By: Dan the Man</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-36687</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan the Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 17:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like harleys but I hate the moco. Buell did have some orginal and inventive ideas until they got shut down.

Harley should rebrand a few buells as HD and sell &#039;em. It&#039;d be nice to see a few adventure bikes, the 1125r, and the never release ducati killer 1190rr released in the US of A.

Of course, it&#039;d also be nice to see some 21st century hooligan bikes to go with the again mid 20th century hooligan bikes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like harleys but I hate the moco. Buell did have some orginal and inventive ideas until they got shut down.</p>
<p>Harley should rebrand a few buells as HD and sell &#8216;em. It&#8217;d be nice to see a few adventure bikes, the 1125r, and the never release ducati killer 1190rr released in the US of A.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;d also be nice to see some 21st century hooligan bikes to go with the again mid 20th century hooligan bikes</p>
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		<title>By: FTNWO</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-30779</link>
		<dc:creator>FTNWO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FTNWO, arm yourselves, educate, pass on learned valuable skills to you&#039;re children, question authority, eat the rich, kill the bankers, politicians,pedophiles and lawyers first, recreate the good life for yourself, fuck the scum, carry on, ride free but remember be big bad and dangerous first.
FTNWO
Dingodawg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FTNWO, arm yourselves, educate, pass on learned valuable skills to you&#8217;re children, question authority, eat the rich, kill the bankers, politicians,pedophiles and lawyers first, recreate the good life for yourself, fuck the scum, carry on, ride free but remember be big bad and dangerous first.<br />
FTNWO<br />
Dingodawg</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-30300</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opinion:
When all the &#039;gomers&#039; who bought into the whole image thing finally decide to sell their &#039;investment&#039; &amp; find something else to emulate, maybe the real deal will magically appear in front of a Davidson relative &amp; things will get back to the way they were...sorta...</description>
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When all the &#8216;gomers&#8217; who bought into the whole image thing finally decide to sell their &#8216;investment&#8217; &amp; find something else to emulate, maybe the real deal will magically appear in front of a Davidson relative &amp; things will get back to the way they were&#8230;sorta&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Roadcrack</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-28072</link>
		<dc:creator>Roadcrack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t mind all these fancy boys with all those nice leathers and all that glitter hanging out acting like bikers cause we like looking at all that fine pussy they bring with them. In the end the real bikers will still be there cause no self respecting harley man would ever give his bike up to a repo man. There was a time when not just anyone could own a harley, meaning you had to be able to protect it and that&#039;s what it meant to be an outlaw. I&#039;m not sure that it really matters to any of us if Harley Davidson survives this latest downturn because anyone that is a real biker, (if you have 800.00 worth of gear in your climate controlled garage I&#039;m not talking to you) will always be driving whatever harley they choose to own or build. So keep bringing the sweet young chicks to the rallies but stay the fuck away from my bike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t mind all these fancy boys with all those nice leathers and all that glitter hanging out acting like bikers cause we like looking at all that fine pussy they bring with them. In the end the real bikers will still be there cause no self respecting harley man would ever give his bike up to a repo man. There was a time when not just anyone could own a harley, meaning you had to be able to protect it and that&#8217;s what it meant to be an outlaw. I&#8217;m not sure that it really matters to any of us if Harley Davidson survives this latest downturn because anyone that is a real biker, (if you have 800.00 worth of gear in your climate controlled garage I&#8217;m not talking to you) will always be driving whatever harley they choose to own or build. So keep bringing the sweet young chicks to the rallies but stay the fuck away from my bike.</p>
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		<title>By: Justme</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-27404</link>
		<dc:creator>Justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sled Tramp
Dont mean to laugh but after reading that and the picture i got in my head i bet that was some funny shit after the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sled Tramp<br />
Dont mean to laugh but after reading that and the picture i got in my head i bet that was some funny shit after the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: sled tramp</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-27391</link>
		<dc:creator>sled tramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 05:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justme,
 I once spent inordinate amounts of otherwise desperately needed monies on a 1959 XLCH with Magneto,K model solo and tank.I couldn&#039;t have lived a complete and fruitful life had I not torn it from the moronic grip of the guy using it to prop his barn door open.Although there WAS ample acreage and a shovel or two about should I have needed to go that route.In any event, I consider your situation justifiable if it makes you happy.Happy is hard to find and even harder to keep.If you can share it somebody important and it makes HER happy,win win.
BTW, I&#039;m with you on that don&#039;t piss off the old lady thing...mine shot me 4 years ago.Said it was an accident but ya never know.
Oh, and the towel...yeah, was in a rush to party so I bunggeed a army blanket on a rigid one night.Stood up at 75 or so and came down on a bare frame.My brothers were calling me &quot;Bone chips&quot; for awhile.
                                Enjoy the sled,
                                    sled tramp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justme,<br />
 I once spent inordinate amounts of otherwise desperately needed monies on a 1959 XLCH with Magneto,K model solo and tank.I couldn&#8217;t have lived a complete and fruitful life had I not torn it from the moronic grip of the guy using it to prop his barn door open.Although there WAS ample acreage and a shovel or two about should I have needed to go that route.In any event, I consider your situation justifiable if it makes you happy.Happy is hard to find and even harder to keep.If you can share it somebody important and it makes HER happy,win win.<br />
BTW, I&#8217;m with you on that don&#8217;t piss off the old lady thing&#8230;mine shot me 4 years ago.Said it was an accident but ya never know.<br />
Oh, and the towel&#8230;yeah, was in a rush to party so I bunggeed a army blanket on a rigid one night.Stood up at 75 or so and came down on a bare frame.My brothers were calling me &#8220;Bone chips&#8221; for awhile.<br />
                                Enjoy the sled,<br />
                                    sled tramp</p>
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		<title>By: Justme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sled tramp
i know everyone including my brothers have been giving me a hard time about it but i dont care what anyone has to say i love it, over priced is putting it mild its fucking ridiculous but i have a good ol lady that told me we just had to have it she is the one that decided we were getting it and of course im not going argue with my Ol Lady she said she needed something more comfortable than a towel LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sled tramp<br />
i know everyone including my brothers have been giving me a hard time about it but i dont care what anyone has to say i love it, over priced is putting it mild its fucking ridiculous but i have a good ol lady that told me we just had to have it she is the one that decided we were getting it and of course im not going argue with my Ol Lady she said she needed something more comfortable than a towel LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: sled tramp</title>
		<link>http://www.agingrebel.com/?p=2740&#038;cpage=4#comment-27314</link>
		<dc:creator>sled tramp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justme,
 Now there ya go....one of the great things about being a rider since Christ was a corporal is that my original rigid frame 1938 Schwinn has a trade in value greater than my house.Gotta like what ya have...trading up makes sense sometimes but frankly, my Dyna will get to where I&#039;m heading just as fast as a CVO Hollyweird model.
$36k huh? Look, I have this bridge I&#039;m not using.....
 Seriously...36 thousand dollars?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justme,<br />
 Now there ya go&#8230;.one of the great things about being a rider since Christ was a corporal is that my original rigid frame 1938 Schwinn has a trade in value greater than my house.Gotta like what ya have&#8230;trading up makes sense sometimes but frankly, my Dyna will get to where I&#8217;m heading just as fast as a CVO Hollyweird model.<br />
$36k huh? Look, I have this bridge I&#8217;m not using&#8230;..<br />
 Seriously&#8230;36 thousand dollars?!</p>
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