Bad News For Mongols Nation

February 21, 2014

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The good news for the Mongols in the club’s racketeering case titled USA v. Mongols Nation, an Unincorporated Association is that a judge has been appointed to decide a proposed reassignment of the case to a judge Mongols’ attorney Joseph Yanny thinks may be more impartial. The bad news is that the judge who will decide that issue is 90-year-old U.S. District Judge Manuel L. Real.

Real has had a reputation as one of the nation’s most controversial and ill tempered federal judges for decades. He was appointed by Lyndon B. Johnson in 1966. Real was chief judge of the Central District of California from 1982 to 1993. He has been effectively censured eleven times. In 2006, his 50th year on the bench, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Sensenbrenner tried to have Real impeached. Eventually, Sensenbrenner gave up.

Judge Charming

Los Angeles attorneys, speaking anonymously, tell stories about Real’s reprehensible conduct in open court. One pointed anecdote concerns the time Real expelled a Sikh from his court for wearing a turban. As a tenet of their faith, Sikh men must not cut their hair and must wear a turban. According to a source, Real told the Sikh, “Get that towel off your head or get out. I don’t let Jews in here with yamakas and I’m not going to let you wear a towel on your head.”

In recent years Real was formally censured by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in 2006 and was formally criticized by the Ninth Circuit in 2009.

In August 2009, the Los Angeles Times ran a 1700 word feature titled “Critics want to bench Judge Manuel L. Real.” The Times characterized Real as “an active judge with a full caseload, stirring fresh complaints of imperious behavior as well as a high number of reversals by appellate courts.”

Mongols Nation

USA v. Mongols Nation is a racketeering case that is essentially a recapitulation of 2008’s US v. Cavazos et al. The government’s primary goal is to strip the Mongols Motorcycle Club of its name and insignia – a stylized rendering of a medieval Mongol warrior in bell bottom jeans, sunglasses and boots seated on a rigid framed motorcycle and brandishing a scimitar.

Last week Yanny, who is the second attorney to represent the Mongols in this case, moved to disqualify Judge Otis D. Wright II from presiding over the case. In his motion Yanny wrote, “Mongols Nation Motorcycle Club, LLC respectfully submits that comments, which have been memorialized in the public record, unquestionably display Judge Wright’s bias against the sole defendant in this case, the Mongols Nation Motorcycle Club, which bias was formed before properly receiving one shred of evidence in this case, regarding this defendant, as a consequence of Judge Wright’s prior exposure to the charges, proceedings and the voluntary guilty pleas of forty separate criminal defendants in a previous matter over which he presided, entitled US v. Cavazos.”



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40 Responses to “Bad News For Mongols Nation”

  1. Austin Says:

    @Straight Shooter – Great link, lots of info – I couldn’t read it all because I started getting twitchy flashbacks. But really good research. Sharing great info is where it’s at.

  2. KK Says:

    OC VAGO: yea yea yea, who u kiddin u love breakn em. If my math is right I could divide 78 by 3 & that would be todays temp, with 4-8 inches of snow on the way tom. Bigger storm coming sunday the pretty weather lady is saying.

    I hit a pothole today in the truck & I think I wiped out a chinese family.

    Fkn roads are a mess, takn a beating here from the “polar vortex”. We had a heat wave this past sunday(40) & took a nice scoot with some brothers. Road salt still in the beard tastes like.

    Watch the mudslides out there……………

  3. Straight Shooter Says: Some more info on this WTF is the deal w/Mr. Real.

  4. Mike 184 Says:

    Dammit no breaks…. No rest for the weary they say. Not to make light of the subject (Cause I hope for all of us these guys get some amount of fairness for a change), but I keep picturing this Judge looking like the one Dan Akroid played…. The one with the dick-lookin nose…. Anyway…

    Jim, well put. Day one when I first met anyone and got to hang around one of the first things said was don’t name drop. Don’t do it. It shows lack of respect for the people that you are talking about.

    Good luck with this crazy mess, ’cause it doesn’t seem like it is gonna get any easier.

  5. Bill Says:

    Austin: Thanks, just a hunch. I wouldn’t bet on it, but unfortunately the defendants must. Their attorney should definitely think all that over. They need to appear respectful of the elderly, and solidly “American”, whatever that even means anymore. But it’s quite likely they already are all that just by their nature, and so just have to show up as themselves, before this badass old rebel American judge. I think they have a shot.

  6. OC VAGO 1%er Says:

    I hate to rub it in, well maybe not… It was a perfect clear 78 here today. God I love Orange County. LOL!


  7. Austin Says:

    Hey Bill – “Bill Says:
    Censured by the infamously anti-American 9th circuit, and an enemy of towel heads, AND tough enough to be a shot caller at 90”

    Excellent points & I am hopeful that you are right on the money.

  8. Glenn S. Says:

    Well said, Jim666 and OC Vago. All this fucking bickering online, where nothing can really be solved but the back and forth can go on forever and the original topic gets back burnered.

  9. OC VAGO 1%er Says:

    Jeez Rebel,
    More bullshit flyin’ here than a buffalo stampede. Sometimes people get so lost trying to be right they lose track of the original point.

  10. One Eye Says:

    @Paladin: I was thinking that a 90 year old judge would have porridge for a brain on a good day. An image of Judge Rayford was what I had pictured. Perfect analogy.

    @Rebel: I’m up to my ass in snow drifts and I’ve never heard of a “Polar Vortex” until this winter. 80s, eh?

  11. DocB Says:

    Nicely put Mr. Jim666

  12. Sieg Says:

    BANG BANG 11, it ain’t hardly just the Mongols. Pretty much impossible to find any real justice in this country anymore. All it’s about is how much loot ya can bring into the courtroom.


  13. Jim666 Says:

    @ Vince.
    You just dont get it do you ?
    this is not just about The Mongols mc and or any of their friends or supporters . This thing is about anone that rides a motorccle and belongs to a club whether it`s a r/c a mom and pop or a family club It`s about all of us maybe even down to the boy and girl scouts .
    Its about freedom to assemble freedom to socialize freedom of expression.
    Just plain freedoms that are slowley being taken away from us as citizens of a once fine and great country.
    are you old enough to remember a saying the U.S. Navy had printed on signs everywhere “loose lips sink ships”. that still holds true today
    I dont care who you claim as friends or associates that reall doesnt matter and more so most people hate name droppers so just plane stop it. If you are who you say you are time will tell and it will be found out, for your sake I hope the wrong people do not find out after all your dribble I for one and Ive been around the block a time or two have never seen but a hand full of 1%ers degrade other clubs on a computer at least none of whome are real men, Wowever I have seen kids stir the shit pot from time to time on sites like this I have asked you to contact me by e-mail which Rebel has to no avail .
    So now I asking politley once again just stop all the name calling b/s and I know such and such Ill be at such and such, that is uncalled for. if you want to meet up w/ anone here ask them for a phone number call them and handle your business like a real man face to face one on one.
    I have nothing more to say to you about this.

    Sorry to all the rest here for my little outburst


  14. 11c_infantry Says:

    As much as I hate to say it, I don’t think the Mongols will get a fair trial no matter who the presiding judge is. The entire population has been prejudiced against our lifestyle by trash television and bad press. Our culture is SICK. That’s the only way you can look at it when self-reliant men are stigmatized and panty waist bootlickers are celebrated. We are watching the downfall of the Republic day-by-day, and the attempt by our government to steal the membership mark of a club made up of real men is a symptom of that downfall. I fear it will only get worse.

    L&R to those who earned it,

  15. Rebel Says:

    Dear KK,

    I ride every day, man. It was about 80 here today.


  16. KK Says:

    LOL Fkn embarrassing to any Man let alone someone claiming to be a 1%.

    Rebel, How you been doing? Long ass winter here. C’mon Spring!

  17. Paladin Says:

    To run down another club or its membership is bad medicine. If one of our members or supporters were found to be doing such a thing, two immediate things would happen. 1) A sincere apology would be sent to the offended club. 2) The offender’s likeness would appear on the side of milk cartons.

    Long May You Ride (to those that deserve to),


  18. DesertH-D Says:

    So Vince, you’ve been to Laughlin “every year” since 1999, huh? Well, good for you.

    I haven’t been there in about 12 years myself.

  19. Straight Shooter Says:

    FF Says:
    February 22nd, 2014 at 6:55 pm
    “But enough about me…. let’s talk about ME!” Dude that was spot on perfect.

  20. Bill Says:

    FF: LMAO, I like your attitude.

  21. FF Says:

    But enough about me…. let’s talk about ME!

  22. VINCE 1%er Says:

    Dell is the *Authority* on all topics and subjects and Club Business & Protocol,nuances,guidelines,charter rules,qualifications,and general statutes of who HE deems to be appropriate.
    While I Myself have disagreed with JJ Solari & been a bit rough in condemning HIS posts – Dell the assclown extraordinaire seems to be the mouthpiece for a generation of bikers ,SOA Fans,Devils Ride Fanboys(and whomever HE is fond of,supports or belongs with or to) and he will otherwise Disagree with anyone elses posts(especially mine-but thats OK) if they dont fit his Myopic & narrow minded windbag fantasies.
    Hey Dell….I’ll Be IN Daytona,Myrtle Beach,Laconia,Sturgis & Laughlin (again) as I have been since 1999 -every year..and as well at the Florence Prison Run and many others….why dont YOU attend & come say hello…?
    It’s a saturday Night and I’m off & outta here to actually RIDE a Motorcycle to a MAJOR 1%ER Club Anniversary benefit/ party Dell-despite it being 43 degrees & a bit wet on the Streets.
    You have your DVR all set up to watch re-runs on soa and discovery channel…? [email protected] You Dude. Get alla your homeys to gather round with You & Lube yourselves Up for the grand finale.

    Vince 1%ER

  23. Baddad Says:

    Sounds like JJ was just pointing out that this judge sounds like that . I didn’t see where he came off like that at all Dell. Just his opinion , and we all got the right to that .

  24. Bill Says:

    NObody hits 90 wanting pudding and diapers.

  25. ashleyistwisted Says:

    90 years old. just wrapping my head around that one. i hope things come thru for the Mongols tho. for everyone involved. but still 90? forced retirement anyone? geez. if i ever get there i just wanna be fed pudding and have my diaper changed until i slip away. i can hardly wrap my head around that number. 90 and still judging cases?!?! Wow.

    But shit i hope things work out for them. even if it has to go to appeals.


  26. Dell Says:

    jj solari your starting to sound alot like vince. STFU already. This aint got nothing to do with being Jewish or Christian. Your a jack ass for even implying that. There are many clubs that are christian clubs that support and get along with major clubs, and theres jews and christians in said clubs. Your derogatory comments labeling an entire group for the actions of a few is short sighted and pathetic. You might as well come out and say all 1% clubs are criminals because of the actions of a few.

  27. jj solari Says:

    the mongols have a problem. i gut this judge all figured out already. if he dont want sikhs wearing their smelly sheets on their OCD ritualistic heads and he dont want jews wearing their silly beanies on their OCD ritualistic heads he SURE aint gonna like any group named after a chinese horde of foreign horsemen mongolian barbarians. this dude sounds like a Major American Bigot. someone like myself, actually. so if the mongols and their representatives in court are smart they will go in there wearing flags and the cross of christ and singing amazing grace and looking as much like george washington as possible. and if that means wearing powdered wigs and knickers-with-white-stockings, then that’s what it means.

  28. Jim666 Says:

    Ok once again and I`ll spell it out this time.


  29. Glenn S. Says:

    I’ve always believed that when the government really, really wants to win a case, the fix is in. A lot of damage can be done between the time a judge rules and the time an appeals court overturns (if it does).

    But Bill does have a point. The ol’ guy just might not stick to the script, especially if values like honor and tradition are displayed front and center. He just might decide that he wants to be remembered for upholding those values rather than as a puppet judge allowing some childlike US attorney to yank his strings. And Lyndon B. Johnson wasn’t known for appointing judges who were “tough on crime” by nature, despite the fact that he has been derided as a liberal for decades (liberal judges are a lot more reasonable towards defendants than conservative ones). That was conservative messiah Ronald Reagan, who presided over the exponential increase in the US prison population, despite the fact that he is fondly remembered by many.

    Best wishes to the persecuted.

  30. Straight Shooter Says: Bad News indeed. Guys like this have been intrenched for decades because of being made. Like his appointee, he is ruthless and vindictive.

  31. Paladin Says:

    Judge Real sounds as wacked out as Judge Rayford (played by Jack Warden)in the movie …And Justice for All.

    If there is any other good news, it might be that Judge Wright’s bias toward the Mongol Nation is so egregious, that if Judge Real doesn’t “get real” and replace him, Judge Real’s decission can be appealed, as can the entire case, whether or not Judge Wright presides.

    Long May You Ride (to those that deserve to),


  32. Drops Says:

    I’m very familiar with judge Real. Never before has there been a man who more misunderstood the role of a judge. He is the only judge who congress was petitioned to impeach without having committed an actual crime. He is notorious for blatantly stating he doesn’t care what the 9th circuit orders. He sanctions attorneys more than any other district court judge in the courthouse. The only good news is he is unpredictable.

  33. FF Says:

    ” He was appointed by Lyndon B. Johnson in 1966 ”

    Good grief.

    Waiting for these bastards to drop dead just aint cutting it. As it stands, now we’re waiting on the death of a nation, because of fucks like this.

  34. Bill Says:

    Hey. Censured by the infamously anti-American 9th circuit, and an enemy of towel heads, AND tough enough to be a shot caller at 90…he just may like these defendants. Their attorney needs to play those cards.

  35. Vikingtrotter Says:

    This old fart knocker must think he is Judge Roy Bean incarnate.

  36. RtC Says:

    With luck, the old barsted will have a seizure. But then it’ll just be
    some other delusional prick! But there is the sentence of “high
    number of reversals by appealate courts”!

    RESPECTS to the REAL
    Redwolf the Conchoman

  37. Base Says:


    That was my first thought as well.

    Freaking 90 & still working? WTF? How could anyone believe he is rational enough to reside of a garage sale let alone a court of law?


  38. Shyster Says:

    I have never prayed for mitral valve prolapse before but I will now.


  39. RVN69 Says:

    And who believes this wasn’t deliberate.


    “I came into this world kicking, screaming and covered in someone else’s blood, I am prepared to leave it the same way.”

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