There Is Something Happening In Albuquerque

August 9, 2013

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Citing an “FBI Intelligence Report” the Albuquerque Journal reported this morning that Sunday’s prolonged shooting at a charity fundraiser at Eppie’s Motorcycle Services was actually a confrontation between three Vagos and an undetermined number of Bandidos Motorcycle Club members.

According to the Journal: “Current intelligence reporting from multiple sources indicates that the (Bandidos Motorcycle Club) national leadership has directed out of state (Bandidos) to proceed to Albuquerque … within the next 24 hours … in response to the August 4, 2013 confrontation,’ says an FBI ‘situational information report’ dated Tuesday. ‘Additionally, (Vagos Motorcycle Club) members from neighboring states may already be in Albuquerque awaiting orders from their national leadership….’”

You can read the complete Journal story here.

Presumably both the FBI and local police now know what happened. This page has taken pains in the last four days to withhold common knowledge about the incident obtained from multiple sources with multiple points of views. This page has withheld that information so as to not unnecessarily inform police.

Some Background

The Vagos Motorcycle Club, which began as a Southern California club, has been expanding into areas previously populated by other proud and pugnacious patches during the last four years. Those areas include Arizona, which had previously been a haven for Hells Angels including HA eminence gris Sonny Barger; areas of Kansas and Missouri that have long been the stomping grounds of the Galloping Goose and El Forastero Motorcycle Clubs; and most recently into New Mexico which, for the last forty years, has been an extremely friendly state in which to ride for members of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club.

Steve Cook, the Executive Director of the Midwest Outlaw Motorcycle Gang Investigators Association has given numerous media interviews in the last two years about the threat to public safety and law and order he thinks the growth and expansion of the Vagos represents.

The Vagos have been the target of an ongoing, multi-agency, federal investigation for more than four years. That investigation comprises investigators from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Homeland Security.

One Big Investigation

The three federal police forces, working in concert with the United States Marshall’s Service, have exploited multiple opportunities to “get the Vagos.” The ongoing investigations have also involved state and local police agencies in California, Nevada and Utah. The best known of those agencies is probably the Gang and Immigration Intelligence Team Enforcement Mission in Arizona. The most recent of those collaborative police actions was Operation Pure Luck, a multi-agency investigation spearheaded by the ATF in Las Vegas.

The story told by Gary Rudnick in the recent trial of Ernesto Gonzalez – that some 200 Vagos conspired together to assassinate Hells Angel Jeffrey Pettigrew – was concocted not so much to get Gonzalez as to create a highlight predicate in a future RICO case. That case may be aimed solely at the Vagos or it may be intended to force the leadership of multiple, competing clubs to stand trial together.

Various state and federal police agencies have used “intelligence sharing” capabilities institutionalized as part of the Global War on Terror to coordinate what is, in essence, one investigation of the Vagos. A large part of the government effort against the Vagos has involved the manipulation of public opinion. The March 2010 accusations, made by California officials including now-Governor Jerry Brown, that the Vagos were terrorizing the town of Hemet, California was part of that one, ongoing disinformation campaign.

All of this lends context to today’s story in a usually clueless, community newspaper. The Journal “obtained” the report it cites in its story today because the local FBI field office “leaked” it to the Journal. The FBI didn’t leak the story to the New York Times. It seems unlikely that the report was leaked as a public service. It seems more likely the leak was the release of specific information to achieve a specific purpose; which is to say the leaked report is intentional propaganda.

What Happened Last Sunday

Multiple sources have described last Sunday’s shooting as an attempt by the Bandidos Motorcycle Club to both intimidate the Vagos Motorcycle Club and to spread disinformation about the incident. Multiple sources have also alleged that the incident was premeditated. Those sources have also said that the story fed to the weak Albuquerque press was scripted in advance and was calculated to discredit the Vagos.

The Black Berets Motorcycle Club, which has three chapters in greater Albuquerque, basks in the goodwill of and maintains friendly relations with the Bandidos. The Black Berets have no particular reason to dislike the Vagos except to share the Bandidos enmity toward the new club in town.

The three Vagos involved in the gunfight were invited to the event by the owner of the motorcycle shop. Sources have told conflicting stories about the relationship of the shop owner and local chapters of the Bandidos.

News reports in the Journal and other Albuquerque news outlets have described the event as a peaceful fundraiser for a sick girl at which children were present. The Aging Rebel has been unable to confirm that children were actually present at the event. Multiple sources have also alleged that the men who shot at the Vagos and killed a Vago named Japheth Seaman were not members of the Black Berets Motorcycle Club but were wearing Black Berets cuts. The brawl began, multiple sources have alleged, when one of the ersatz Black Berets punched Vago Malachi Seaman in the face.

Today’s Newz

The lead in today’s Journal story reads, “Albuquerque could be ground zero for a violent clash between outlaw motorcycle gangs.” It is exactly the sort of propagandistic statement that the multi-agency antagonists of the Vagos has been planting for years.

A violent confrontation between two one percenter motorcycle clubs is news but not earth-shaking. Last Sunday’s murder was tragic but not unprecedented. But an attempt to script news coverage of a violent confrontation between two clubs in advance is unprecedented.

It is blatantly the sort of thing alphabet police agencies do. So last Sunday’s fight seems to be about much more than disputed territory or a murder.

 

 

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91 Responses to “There Is Something Happening In Albuquerque”

  1. Jay Says:

    I knew Jay. He was a good guy. I can’t believe he died like this. Jay was a tough strong man. I didnt know him as a Vago. He was my mechanic. His brother Mel is a former Black Beret and had personal issues for them pulling his patch for good reason. The Black Berets get along with everyone that wants to get along with them. I dont care for them much . Just telling it like it is. I’m not big on the R&G either ! I like truth. I’ve met Vagos in the past and thought they were good dudes. I have no issue with them. Only ones that won here are the law, doctors, lawyers, morgue, not any club. Thats why I ride alone and would never wear a patch. To much drama !

  2. Rhonda Dunham Says:

    I never knew jay as a vago,with all due respect to the green nation, i only knew him as a totally bitchen man and father who really LOved his kids an my friend. I struggle to understand all this . Im not from that kind of life so i guess all never understand. right or wrong, no matter how you were raised or who you are, the fact is this i really miss Jay and that will remain untill the day i die. I just hope his death creates alot of good from it

  3. DOS Says:

    My condolences to the Seaman family and the Vagos. This is a tragic event and a poor representation of our city. Ride free.

  4. roy Says:

    All I can say is every bandit I’ve seen is a jerk I had a VP threaten me over a stupid girl cause I didn’t want to get back wit her and the VP is a neighbor they all hide behind there patch cause they are little boys stuck in a mans body (you run with dogs you are going to get fleas) I’ve also heard that the bandits in NM are considered a disgrace couse of there actions I kny some HA/81 I’ll support them before the red & yellow

  5. Not Surprised Says:

    I think he’s saying we judge the bandido gang the wrong way because sometimes cops get shot when they get in the way

  6. rollinnorth Says:

    Sieg,
    Good one! Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

    Respect.

  7. JAFO Says:

    @djp
    Its extremely obvious that YOU know whats going on.

    At what point in your reality does MC=gang?

    Maybe its YOU that needs to shut the fuck up and stop talking shit about things you don’t understand.

    Jeezuz fucking Christ where do you people come from?

    JAFO

  8. jrnr Says:

    @djp,

    And I’m guessing that you’re the one that understands all things, like the difference between motorcycle clubs and a gangs?? Now why don’t you shut the fuck up and move on with your bullshit!

    jrnrϟϟ
    FTP FTF FTW ACAB

  9. Sieg Says:

    Whoa…there was some wicked-ass Angel-D floating around this morning, long about 03.38 hours

    FTF/FTW
    WPWW/14W

  10. djp Says:

    You guys judge the bandidos and other biker gangs the wrong way they are not always the bad guys.they are just doing what is best for their familys and the gang its not always their falter a cop gets shot or a different person that’s not in the gang is killed they should’ve not gotten in their way.So how about you people shut the tuck up and stop talking shit about things you don’t understand.

  11. SB. Says:

    Amen. J , your loved missed and avenged.

  12. a friend of jays Says:

    JAPHETH A SEAMAN WAS MURDERED,HE IS A MAN ONLY ONE ALIKE WOULD KNOW.I WILL SAY TO ANY COWARD BITCH NO BALLS HAVIN PUSSYS PUNKS WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THIS….I HOPE YOU HAVE A NICE WARM BED TO SLEEP IN AT NIGHT….I HOPE YOU HOLD YOUR CHILDREN CLOSE BEFOR THEY BECOME SCUMBAGS DRUG USING THIEFS WHO HIDE BEHIND OTHER KNOCK OFFS THEY RIDE WITH BY AROUND WHAT EVER…JUST KNOW YOU COWARDS ARE NOT MEN YOU ARE PUSSYS I WOULD DIG A HOLE AND KEEP MY HEAD ON A SWIVEL MY BROTHER JAPHETH WILL HAUNT YOUR DAMMED SOULS FOR THE REST OF YOUR USE LESS LIFE …SO DO IT BIG COWARDS..BE ALL YOU CAN BE FAGETS…YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE ASHAMED..EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW EVERY MOUTH WILL CONFESS ON JUDGEMENT DAY..EVIL IS EVIL…TRUTH IS YOU COWARDS DID NOT KILL HIM YOU CAN BRUISE MY FLESH YOU CAN BURN MY FLESH YOU WILL NEVER EVER TOUCH MY SOUL AND LOOK UP IN THE BEAUTIFUL HEAVENS AND KNOW YOUR FEET WILL NEVER STEP IN THAT PLACE GOD E DONE.

  13. rollinnorth Says:

    And now, Steve Cook comes to town to stir things up a bit more:
    http://www.kasa.com/news/crime/expert-predicts-more-biker-gang-violence-for-nm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qam1fbQmA_s

    FTF
    Respect.

  14. Philo Bedo Says:

    It amazes me that more club members don’t understand, that the government is doing the same thing here, to motorcycle clubs, that they’re doing in the middle east, with the various tribes, nations, and sects of Islamo-fascism: infiltrating, agitating, conquering.

    ~Philo

  15. big joe Says:

    One thing i know is japheth seaman was a tough bad ass awesome man…..its so sad that he is gone……the seaman family green nation and vagos and the world has lost a good man…..totally bummed……my heart hurts for the seaman family……respect

  16. BZ Says:

    a brother gone but never forgotin in the wind hear his drag pipes roar we love you big bro

  17. Jim666 Says:

    AVAGOVFFV
    Thank you great to be home, Hope all is well w/ you and yours also,
    Condolences on the loss of your brother.
    No matter the patch,I hate to see news like this.
    Respects, Jim

  18. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Jim666,
    Welcome home good to see ya posting hope all is well with you and yours.

    Thanks

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  19. Jim666 Says:

    Wow !
    the shit talk on this thread is unbelevable.
    Sincere condolences to the family.& the Vagos mc on their loss

  20. BigV Says:

    Dear Bill Russell or Fake Jim Baca or Whatever Name That Sorry Excuse for a Mother Gave You:

    You’re not a 1%er. You’re not a Biker.

    You’re a mouth and punk bitch mouth, at that.

    Quit trying to stir up more trouble, the same way you feds have been stirring up trouble going back to MK Ultra and CoIntelPro.

    Keep the names of those two righteous one percenter clubs that you’re running your mouth about, out of your filthy, pole smoking, syphilitic mouth.

    Go back to the local glory hole at your favorite LE hangout.

    There are people here who are genuinely hurt and grieving, and don’t need some provocateur messing with their emotions.

  21. bill russell Says:

    Not only was it an ambush but everyone is missing the part that the bandidos are working with LE

  22. PigPen Says:

    Budweiser, shut up, shut the fuck up. There are people here that just lost a Brother. This is not the place for your mindless ranting. The family of that man, might be reading this, have a slight bit of compassion for everyone that just lost a Brother, a friend, a son, a father. Nobody gives a fuck about you, the only reason I am even replying to you, is that you are being offensive to these people going through a tragic loss. I am not in this Club, and you are still managing to offend me, imagine how they feel right now.

    To the Green Nation, you have my condolences, never easy to lose a Brother.

    If the Seaman Family is reading this, you have my sympathy and well wishes. I hope you find closure on this tragic matter.

  23. RLG Says:

    What I Know

    In the the 90s the cops in New Mexico were a fucking joke! Corrupt, cowardly, and incompetent by even the lowest standard. Up in Santa Fe they were total pussies. Old Spanish families run the state. I don’t know about the local feds. It was so bad, big white boys took to carrying concealed 24/7 — even tho NM is an open carry state.

    FTF & FTP

  24. surfnharley Says:

    RIP JAY, MAY GOD WATCH OVER THOSE THAT LOVE YOU, CONDOLENCES TO THE GREEN NATION.

  25. One Eye Says:

    My apology. My sincere condolences to all who loved Jay. May he ride free.

  26. JMacK Says:

    QUICKY

    May The Daughter grow wise and old and take solace in the thoughts that her father died representing something. She should be very proud and all I can do is hope my kids get a similar opportunity some day.

    Much love and respect to the Family and Brothers of the deceased.

    JMacK

  27. QUICKY Says:

    I HAVE KNOW JAY FOR OVER 30 YEARS ALONG WITH THE FAMILY…AT THE MEMORIAL HIS 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WITH TEARS IN HER EYE’S SAID THIS, MY DAD LOVED HIS FAMILY AND THE VAGOS WITH EVERY FIBER OF HIS BEING I DID NOT WANT TO LOSE MY DAD BUT I KNOW THAT HE DIED FOR WHAT HE BELIEVED IN!!!!”I CRIED”

  28. Prospect Says:

    @ OC VAGO

    I apologize for carrying on with this Bud thing.
    My heartfelt condolences to you and the Green Nation for the loss of your Brother.

    Prospect
    FTF

  29. One Eye Says:

    “It’s not my intention to hijack this thread, but…” he’ll launch into another long winded self absorbed post and do it anyway. This is someone who doesn’t own a bike, doesn’t ride and isn’t part of the lifestyle, yet his “I’m just curious” questions are perpetual. Now, I have a problem with where curious ends and nosy begins. One post asking Rebel what was said in another deleted post, by yet another mouth breather. What would make you think you would be privy to that information? Common sense would dictate that if Rebel wanted it known he would have probably left it on the forum. This is a thread about a fallen brother to some men on this board, not your fucking blowhard pontificating about who said what to you. You give attention deficit disorder an entirely new meaning. Why don’t you go find a girlfriend, or perhaps a skate board forum to annoy. I belong to another site that has a “Block User” option and when it was exercised that member’s posts would appear as a red line across the screen. No fuss, no muss.

  30. Prospect Says:

    @ Bud
    I scrolled up to see exactly what it was I said to you. As I thought, again you are being disingenuous in your posts in response to criticism. I did not say Patch Holders/bikers go “berserk and start smashing people.” Interesting that you would attach that character trait to a Biker. Did not imply that in any way. I did say I have assigned you a voice. I think it works for you.
    I think your dishonesty and lack of character shine through and that is probably why other posters respond to you in a negative fashion. I am not interested in what that Brother said to you eight years ago. I AM interested in the fact that you repeated it here. Still don’t get it?

    My initial instinct towards you, based on your posts holds up. I don’t trust you.

    Go collect some rent.

    Prospect, 151 days
    RBR

  31. OC VAGO Says:

    Budweiser-
    For fuck sake. Give it a rest already.

  32. Freeman Says:

    Bud, i got nothing against ya really, and im not about to jump on a bash bandwagon, but paladin said it best on: August 10th, 2013 at 9:49 pm, stuff you said in that post just before his, have no place on this site, or anywhere else for that matter, you feel the need to open your life to others go dunk a few at that nearest service station or get a shrink.

    And when you see that someone made an honest mistake, and apologized on it, fuck son don’t play it over and over again, your not onstage playing guitar and trying to make others believe you meant to hit that false note, try putting yourself in others shoes, it helped me all my life as it helped others.

    Know the rules before you break’em.

  33. Pig Says:

    @Budweiser – There are good men here trying to cope with the loss of a brother and talk about things bigger than you and your ignorance. How about showing a little respect and taking your shit over to the saloon. Anyone who gives a shit enough about what you got to say will follow you there.

  34. Budweiser Says:

    I’ll make this as short as possible. It’s not my intention to hijack this thread, but I’m sure certain posters have been waiting for “Budweiser” to pop up in the comments. I was asked about ever hearing the word “puppet.” I answered with two instances where I had heard the word spoken by a member of those clubs. This angered people. Not quite sure why.

    Bill- Is “this site is over your head” all you can say? I mean you respond to everything I write on here within minutes. I’d love to meet you in person, but for some reason I think you would enjoy that too much.

    Prospect- It happened. He didn’t get in my face. Sorry. Never said he needed my help. If anything, I may have needed his. Contrary to what you may believe eveyone who is asked about who they RIDE with doesn’t go berserk and start smashing people. We were together for like 3-4 hours that afternoon/night and talked about alot. Why does what one member of one club said eights years ago bother you? It has nothing to do with what your club calls its supporters. Take “note” of anything you want.

    CN- Not I cop. I do enjoy SOA.

    Glen S.- Not trying to impress anyone. I probably should have just said that I spent a few hours drinking with the kid. The mountain climbing analogy doesn’t really work. This website isn’t about how to be a biker or club member. If mountain climbers were being arrested on a regular basis and a target of the ATF, non mountain climbers would most likely read about it.

    Some of the other posts since mine have been dead on in regards dealing with this subject. Interesting that no one is swearing at them and wishing their death.

  35. OC VAGO Says:

    “THERE IS NOTHING HAPPENING IN ALBUQUERQUE”

    Once again the media has been spoon fed bullshit by law enforcement. Being so eager to sell their rag by creating fear and hysteria Albuquerque Journal staff writer Jeff Proctor published it. Not one journalist attended our brother’s memorial. Not one journalist has written about our brother’s grieving family. Not one journalist has done any follow-up story to dispel the law enforcement crap.

    We came; we paid our respects to our MURDERED brother. Nothing more, nothing less.

    VIVA LOS VAGOS
    LVDV VFFV

  36. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Prospect Davis,
    Welcome to the page. . . Good work on your post very well stated. Just keep things on topic and remember not to ever speak or write in a way that could be taken as your doing so for the membership of a Club nor post anything about any Clubs business or the relationships between Clubs.

    Make us proud prospect

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  37. Sieg Says:

    Another one…where the fuck they all come from???

    FTF/FTP
    TOSIAR
    5 to 1
    SYLO

  38. Freeman Says:

    @ Paladin

    My bad.

  39. Sieg Says:

    Anyone dig the first sentence here…FBI intelligence??? Talk about an oxymoron.

  40. Biker X Says:

    Again the propaganda machine was wrong ! We laid our fallen brother to rest and there was no great war in the streets, just the getting together of brothers to send a great man to the ride in the sky. If all the 1% clubs keep this up we will no longer be able to ride with our brothers and be proud of the clubs we joined. This needs to stop !!!!!!!!!

  41. Tooj Says:

    Correct if I’m wrong, but there seems to be a shitload of loose lips in the comments of the linked article. Geezus Christ on a Bike, this is the best time ever to just STFU. If three blog entries with comments can’t convince a body, go read all that horseshit too. Out.

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