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Vago Dead In Albuquerque

Details have begun to emerge about a shooting in Albuquerque Sunday that left one member of the Vagos Motorcycle Club dead and another wounded. Police have identified the dead man as Japheth Seaman (photo above). The wounded man has not been named. A third Vago named Malachi Seaman was arrested at the scene and charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.

Initial news reports described the incident as a “drive-by shooting” of a peaceful gathering by the three Vagos but that story has already fallen apart. The three Vagos were invited to a fund raiser for a sick girl by members of the Black Berets Motorcycle Club. The three Vagos arrived at the gathering on motorcycles at about 3:30 p.m. They dismounted and mingled with the crowd until about four when more than 70 shots were fired. Other than Malachi Seaman’s collapsible baton, the Vagos appeared to have been unarmed.

A source unaffiliated with either the Vagos or the Black Berets described the shooting as a “premeditated ambush of the three Vagos.” The Black Berets have three chapters in Albuquerque. The Vagos established that club’s first chapter in New Mexico within the last year. The preeminent motorcycle club in New Mexico is the Bandidos. The motive for the attack on the Vagos remains unclear.

Guy Named Chale

Public statements by voluble members of the Black Berets to Albuquerque television stations in the first forty hours after the shooting have described an unprovoked attack by the three Vagos on the dozens of Black Berets who attended the fundraiser.

News accounts have stated that the Vagos Motorcycle Club “targeted” the Black Berets and “an innocent family.”

“They rolled up into here. Started shooting up at the place. Started shooting at my brothers. No questions asked. Just started shooting for no reason at all,” a Black Beret named “Chale” told television station KOAT.

Chale described the shooting as “uncalled for. This was a benefit for a little girl.” Chale was indirectly quoted by KRQE as saying “the club had no issues with anyone and believes they were attacked because of the role they play in the city.”

Chale continued, “They came over here and retaliated against us because were strong here in Albuquerque.” Chale’s position in the Black Berets and his qualifications as a spokesman for the club remain unclear.

An unnamed member of the Black Berets told KRQE, “Those sons of bitches (the Vagos Motorcycle Club), it ain’t over with them.”

Whodunit

Albuquerque police said yesterday that “more than 70 spent shell casings” were found at the scene.

Tasia Martinez. The Lead Public Information Officer for the Albuquerque Police department, would only say that the case is being investigated by “gang detectives” who hope to “curtail retaliation” for the murder of Japheth Seaman.

Efforts Tuesday afternoon to solicit further comment from Officer Martinez were unsuccessful.

 

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115 Comments For This Post

  1. Austin Says:

    Condolences to the Seaman family.

  2. rollinnorth Says:

    Thanks, Rebel, for keeping up with this story. What a difference a day makes.

    Respect.

  3. Tiger Says:

    My condolences to the Seaman family and out to the Vagos over the loss of their brother. May he ride in peace. Tiger

  4. RVN69 Says:

    Condolences to the brothers and family of Japheth Seamen, may he ride in peace on the other side.

  5. 10Guage Says:

    My sincere condolances to his Brothers, Family, and Friends.

  6. PigPen Says:

    My condolences to the Family, and the Green Nation on the loss of your Brother.

  7. john Says:

    my condolences to the family and the green nation for the loss of our brother

  8. Paladin Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzplmeMMB84

    Long May You Ride,

    Paladin

  9. OC VAGO Says:

    Rest in Peace our Brother

    VIVA LOS VAGOS!
    LVDV VFFV

  10. Pig Says:

    The Green Nation seems to have been sailing pretty rough waters here as of late. Hope it gets better for you soon. Here’s to calm seas in your near future gents.

    Condolences on the loss of your Brother.

  11. Muck 1%er Says:

    Condolences to the Green Nation and to the family on your loss

  12. REPENT OR PERISH Says:

    VAGOS MC: Sorry for your loss

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbh1Zp7iHqQ

  13. Samurai Says:

    Ok I have to admit to a bit of confusion here. It’s a Vago that’s dead and the only weapon between the 3 of them was a collapsible baton, that i’ve never heard of firing a bullet in my life. So how in the bloody hell can the Black Beret’s claim the Vago’s came in and attacked them and some how managed to only hit themselves with magic bullets flying from non existing firearms or did I really fuck up how i read both stories. Either that or they believe that the Vago’s attacked them and had the completely shit luck of only hitting their own Brothers. Either story sounds like there’s some gigantic missing pieces.
    Condolences to the Green Nation.

  14. jason Says:

    condolences to the green nation,
    Samurai
    I have no idea what happened but I do know the few times I have been arrested for assault in a bar fight me and brothers had empty holsters at the time of arrest……

  15. FBomb Says:

    Yeah Samurai…that’s just what I was thinking. How the hell can they say they “showed up shooting” when they were the only ones hit and had no weapons?? Sounds to me like the guy claiming to be a Black Beret either doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or is a stooge for the Feds. I always love how the press has an “unnamed member” as well. Wonder if that unnamed member’s last name is Dobyns by chance? Just sayin…

  16. Road Whore Says:

    Condolences to the Vagos and to friends and families of the victim.

    “Other than Malachi Seaman’s collapsible baton, the Vagos appeared to have been unarmed.”

    Aahhh…now the truth begins to emerge!

    To all of those who would stir up shit and try to set brother against brother: die in hell like the worthless pieces of shit that you are.

    RIDE FREE

  17. Rahlow (Rusty) Says:

    Condolences to the family and his Brothers.
    Respects

  18. Sieg Says:

    Condolences to the family, and to the Green Nation, on their loss.

    FTF/FTP
    TOSIAR
    5 to 1
    SYLO

  19. PigPen Says:

    The one thing I noticed, I think the magic number was over 70 spent shells…3 Vagos…and sadly one of Them, dead. Now, I know I am not good at math, but that’s alot of shells, from 3 Men, that managed to hit Themselves, oh and out of a collapsable baton.

    And somehow it was the Vagos that were arrested for this? That was a fucking planned ambush.

  20. rollinnorth Says:

    The “story” as told by some “member of the Black Berets” makes for better TV “news” (“APD warned of violence…gangs… 70 rounds…motorcycles…violence…blah, blah, blah…”) so the media lapdogs run with it.
    Thankfully, we have Rebel, who digs a bit deeper before telling a story.

    Respect.

  21. Ipsick Says:

    70 rounds/3 guns, either Glock 17 or Baretta 92 – 17, 19 or 33 round mags is possible but hitting no one but your Brothers, not plausible.

  22. Prospect Says:

    My condolences to the Green Nation for your loss. I smell a rat in all this.

    Respects,

    Prospect, 146 days
    RBR

  23. sherides Says:

    Condolences to the family and loved ones of Japheth Seaman.
    May he forever Ride Free.

    sherides

  24. InvaderCC Says:

    Okay i maybe a little slow on the uptake here but let me see if i got this correct….
    1.Vagos MC was invited to a Benefit by the Black Beret…Correct?

    2.After being there approximately a half hour someone started shooting at the Vagos MC Members ….Correct?

    3.According to the third paragraph its say a unaffiliated source say it was a premeditated attack on the three Vagos MC members…Correct?

    4.Only Vagos MC members got shot …Correct?

    Here is where i get confused…

    5.When this Chale fellow from the Black Berets is running his yap..Is he speaking of a third party that showed up and unloaded ?

    6.I do not personally know any Black beret and have only meet a hand full of Vagos MC members so i do not have any stake in this ..But i know if myself and two other club Brothers fired off 70 rounds we surely would hit something other than each other…

    So how and the hell could the Vagos MC members be the ones to start shooting..and be the ones who got shot also with no other injuries…Or have i miss read something.???

    7..Can someone please explain this to me…

    Respects.. InvaderCC 1%er IFFI

  25. Phuquehed Says:

    @InvaderCC – Exactly how I read it too. Doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

  26. Tooj Says:

    In these days of short attention spans, it becomes clearer that the first voice is often the only one heard. No small wonder someone would run their piehole as soon and as much as possible. No need for truth at that point as the talking heads have given the public all they will ever pay attention to…

  27. James Baca Says:

    Get your story straight asshole. the Vagos started the fight. All 3 should have perished. Fuck the seaman’s. this shit ain’t over.

  28. Meh Says:

    So what’s the story to “get straight”?

    (Omit anything which might remotely serve any Porcine Observers.)

  29. Austin Says:

    My take away is that the Federal Playbook / Game Plan is working.

    School starts Monday – so here is a quick review of some California History;

    “Hemet Apologizes to Vagos
    Mon, Sep 5, 2011
    …The take away from the Hemet hoax is that the Vagos are urban terrorists. It does not matter here now whether this is at all true. It only matters that people get excited when they think about it.”
    http://www.agingrebel.com/4084

    Unpatched & Unaffiliated, I’m just another concerned taxpayer.

  30. WWB Says:

    Well I for one wont be purchasing any collapsible baton guns until they improve the design…. it seems at the moment they’re wildly innacurate, use far too much ammunition and can cause harm to the wielder without ever hitting the target.

    would be better off just throwing the bullets!

  31. James Baca Says:

    To the Vagos leadership. Pull your chapter out of Burque. What these 3 members did was reckless. The Black Berets don’t pose any threat in this city, the Bandidos do. These 3 were not invited, and yes they were armed ass holes!! The statement made here was e Vagos are stupid. They misrepresented and made a stupid move and will most likely pay for it, my the Bandidos and then some. Rookies……

  32. WWB Says:

    Care to elaborate?

  33. rollinnorth Says:

    So, I should know better, but sometimes it is hard to resist.
    A search of James Baca in Albuquerque, NM turns up some interesting mug shots.
    Merrily it trolls along, trolls along, trolls along…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0

  34. Wretched Man Says:

    From the other side of the world all I can say is: Sad to see another biker killed. Condolences to his brothers & his family.

    I definitely smell a RAT in all of this, a relatively common thread seems to be that inexplicably bikers (PH as well as independent)get along amicably, then suddenly for no reason begin to shoot copious amounts of ammo…..sounds like something Curt Sutter would “create” (sic) while the alphabet gang gleefully lick their pork chops…

    @FBOMB, yeah I wonder where Jay was when all this went down?

    respect
    wretched

  35. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Dear Mr. James Baca,
    First if your anybody that matters you should know the right way to communicate on matters such as this. Secondly your really showing your ass coming on a blog and posting stupid shit during a possible murder investigation and lastly your being incredibly disrespectful, so with that I’ll end with a response that is equal in measure.

    Fuck you

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  36. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    To those folks that have posted their condolences and well wishes I humbly thank you all.

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  37. Bruka Says:

    “Rookies …”

    Says the jackass issuing ultimatums to the Vagos leadership and name dropping the Bandidos on a website. Moron.

  38. Bruka Says:

    Respects and condolences to the Vagos and the Seaman family , truly sorry for your loss.

  39. rollinnorth Says:

    Condolences to the family, friends and club brothers of Japheth Seaman. May he be at peace, forever in the wind.

    Respect.

  40. PigPen Says:

    @AVAGOVFFV.
    I admire your amazing resistance to unload on that comment. Well played sir.

  41. Rebel Says:

    Dear james Baca,

    Yeah. Hello to you, too. Asshole, huh? Okay. I’ll bite. Three Vagos started a fight with some number, like at least two dozen, Black Berets. According to local police, “more than 70 shots” were fired. One Vago was killed. As far as I know, no Black Berets were seriously injured although one Vago with an Armament Systems and Procedures, Inc. telescopic baton, or something like that, did strike a Black Beret in the face. The Vago with the baton was arrested. No Black Berets were arrested. Personally, I hope this shit is over. I understand it might not be. Last Sunday’s shit happened out in the open, in the daylight, at a fund raiser attended by numerous people. Some of them might even know me slightly. And, of course, like always, I am not saying everything I know. Several people have written me to tell me what an ignorant asshole I am but unfortunately they have been hazy on details. The main thing I have been told is that I know nothing and I am wrong — which does zip to assist me in covering this story. Please straighten me out. Please email me your side of things. I protect sources.

    Rebel

  42. Jlwrjo Says:

    Sorry for y’all’s loss my condolences for seaman family. A good brother is gone VFFV

  43. Rebel Says:

    Dear InvaderCC,

    1 — I have been told the three Vagos were invited, yes.

    2 — I have been told by someone I trust that they arrived at about 3:30 p.m. and the shooting happened a little before four p.m.

    3 — My quoted source said that, yes. Within the context of what actually, provably happened, I think his comment is, at the least, plausible and it seems to me to be the simplest explanation for the violence. There is a concept in philosophy called Occam’s Razor, or “the law of parsimony,” that says the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions is most likely to be true. My reading of the facts of the case tells me that the explanation of the one confidential source I quoted, is the most likely to be true, since there are objective facts to this whodunit, like there was a body and so on. I could be wrong.

    4 — Police have publicly announced that “more than” 70 shots were fired, yes.

    5 — I don’t know Chale, but it sure sounds to me like he thinks Vagos started shooting and I have been led to believe that there were only three Vagos there. The shooting was still going on when police arrived.

    6 — There might very well be Black Berets who were injured who I do not know about. If there were and they were hospitalized the police would quickly know about it but the police are closed mouthed about this case so far. If there were wounded Black Berets and they were patched up by their friendly neighborhood Vet or Class A medic only the Black Berets would know. But if there were wounded Black Berets and they were victims, why wouldn’t they just go to a hospital? What motive would they have to conceal their injuries?

    7 — There is an obvious motive for the shooting but I am not going to print it here. I just cover news in this niche. I don’t take sides. I don’t do intelligence for the police. The police can develop their own theory of the case and I do not expect this police case to go very far. Again, I could be wrong.

    Stay tuned,
    Rebel

  44. Tooj Says:

    @AVAGOVFFV,

    At the risk of embarrassment and potential butthurt….

    I lurked here a long time before ever commenting and I figure I’ll just say it: “Classy, very classy”. Just goes to show you don’t have to be a neanderthal to give and get respect. We don’t talk, but you’ve got mine.

    I certainly don’t know who James Baca is but I have a good idea that he is in no position to command Vagos to leave the Burque.

    My condolences on the loss of a brother. It’s too bad someone had to dance the panty twist publically.

  45. Meh Says:

    “I certainly don’t know who James Baca is but I have a good idea that he is in no position to command Vagos to leave the Burque.”

    I smell bacon.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CErapf79rqM

  46. Wretched Man Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2kfx80H3N1g

    This about sums it up

    respect
    wretched

  47. Hose-a 1%er Says:

    Condolences to the Green Nation.
    Hose-a 1%er Pagan’s M.C. retired F.T.F.

  48. chromedome Says:

    I found a james baca in the burque that is a registered so….”sexual exploitation of a child”…..hmmmmm….wonder if its the same one…..either way dude is a wierdo…WAY to loud and recklace with the mouthpiece…..just wanna say .its pure luck that many rounds that many people and no other serious wounds other than mentioned…..

    Supportyourlocalwhiteboy

  49. DesertH-D Says:

    AVAGOVFFV – Props to you. Again. And sorry for the loss of your Brother. This situation doesn’t smell right…

  50. Big Joe Says:

    Total respect for green nation and the seaman family.I will miss my bro

  51. Big Joe Says:

    respect for the seaman family… and the green nation…..will miss you white boy

  52. Phuquehed Says:

    @AVAGOVFFV – I apologize for not giving my condolences earlier.

    I hope you and your brotherhood, along with his family, get an answer soon to all your questions to help ease the pain somewhat. Keep him always in your memories, never let him go.

  53. WARTHOG Says:

    My sincere condolences to Vago 1%er Seaman’s friemds, family, and brothers. Another senseless tragedy.

    L&R,

    warthog

    FTP FTF FTW

  54. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    As the posts continue from well wishers I thought I should respectfully reply.

    To those who have expressed their condolences and support for the Seaman family and the Vagos International MC again I want to genuinely thank each of you for the kindness and respect.

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  55. respect me in battle Says:

    fuck james baca. I said it bitch court will be held in the streets you fake ass wanna be.you fucking rapist you should have died in jail bitch go and dig a hole somewhere and kill yourself.keep your head on swivel.

  56. Frequent Flyer Says:

    My condolences to the family and friends of Japheth Seaman.

  57. big joe Says:

    Everyone at gym is saddened by the loss of japheth..he was well respected and liked by everyone there that had met him and other green nation members there…i have seen first hand that green nation go by the saying……we give what we get…..totally respect the seaman family and all green nation

  58. Quiet Mike Says:

    James Baca

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Baca

    Just some chicken shit clown hiding behind a fake screen name.

  59. Budweiser Says:

    Good catch, Quiet Mike.

  60. Sieg Says:

    There are at least six James Baca listings around Albuquerque. Kinda like LaVonn Smith in Chicago.

    FTF/FTP
    TOSIAR
    5 to 1
    SYLO

  61. Base Says:

    It takes a real shit stain to come onto a thread about a persons death and play key board commando such as commenter James.

  62. Base Says:

    To the family & friends of Japheth Seaman.

    Please accept my sincere condolences for your loss.

    Respectively

    Base

  63. Jim Baca Says:

    I am not the one who made a nasty comment on this blog. Don’t mix us up.

  64. swampy Says:

    My sincerest condolences to the brothers, family and friends of Japheth Seaman. Respects, swampy

  65. Knuckles !%er Says:

    Condolences, positive thoughts to the Seaman family and Vagos Nation. I personally knew both of these brothers and its is truly tragic that another biker brother has died in what is most likely unnecessary events. Twisted one way or the other, when are we going to learn to quit making it so easy for the pigs and set our differences aside and stand against them.

    FTP FTW
    Knuckles 1%er
    Rebels MC USA

  66. big joe Says:

    Thanks to butch and his son and all the seaman family and green nation. It was an honor to know japheth. Condolences from my heart

  67. Muck 1%er Says:

    @base

    There is at least one other person who comments on this forum with the name of James. Do not confuse james baca with the other one who goes by simply James. James is a straight up and standup, long time patch holder who recently retired from a Major club.

  68. Budweiser Says:

    Jim- Cool of you to direct your readers here on your blog. We figured that “James Baca” was a fake.

  69. Base Says:

    Muck 1%

    My comment was directed at the above commenter James Baca and no-one else.

    I see now I could have left the name off entirely and it would have come across the same.

    Thanks for the heads up.
    Base

  70. Austin Says:

    Jim Baca Says:
    August 10th, 2013 at 9:30 am
    I am not the one who made a nasty comment on this blog. Don’t mix us up.

    Welcome to the blog Jim. I see by your (very nice) website, that you are a quick study. Please look around and feel free to join in, or ask questions.

    It is clear that you and the previous Baca poster are different, Have you two been mixed up before?

    Thanks for the clarification

  71. BigV Says:

    Condolences to the Seaman Family and the Green Nation. One more has gone home to Valhalla.

  72. Snow Says:

    Condolences to the Seaman family and the Green Nation on your loss.

  73. big joe Says:

    Never will forget japheth seaman…..what a bummer it is to not see him at gym doing his hardcore workouts…..tough white boy he was…..ride free in the wind brother

  74. Jim666 Says:

    Condolences to the Seaman family and the Vago nation on your loss.

  75. Shyster Says:

    Good to see you back Jim666!

    Shyster

  76. big joe Says:

    Never will forget japheth seaman……proud white boy and member of the green nation……respect

  77. DD1% Says:

    To green nation from me an my brothers up in the northeast our condolences .

  78. big joe Says:

    12 o clock friday nite august 16th….thinkin bout the loss of japheth and how i wont ever forget total respect and support for the seaman family and the green nation….i will not forget…thats a promise

  79. big joe Says:

    thanks so much to the seaman family for the pic and the powerful words spoken below it…..wow….talk about bringing emotions out…….honor and respect forever

  80. Tamara Says:

    Mali and Selina,
    All my love to the two of you and the family with your loss. It’s been along time since we spoke. Only to find you this way. You and the kids are in our prayers.
    Be strong for each other, the truth will come out.

  81. Thee Ex Says:

    I was married to Jay and we have a son together. He is 8 years old. My son has many questions that cannot be answered and may never be. Shame on the media for printing articles that are clearly inaccurate. Articles that my son will most likely read one day. It is good that this article at least exposes the holes in the “story”. We simply hope that the truth will prevail and the rest will be left up to God. I know my son will appreciate the nice comments about his father on this blog when I feel he is old enough to see this article.

  82. big joe Says:

    monday nite late thinkin bout a fallen bad ass bro that was a good man……hopes and prayers that malachi will get out soon so he can be with the seaman family…..i know your out there jay….like the words said…..i did not die……support for the green nation forever

  83. big joe Says:

    Everytime i go to gym i miss seeing jay and his other bros that worked out there……how strange it is that another group says the three green nation bros rolled in and started shooting…..how strange nobody in crowd got shot but a good bro was killed and they have his brother in jail on a 100,000 cash bond for agg battery…..this thing stinks with the words ambush and set up…….so much respect for the seaman family and there loss

  84. Trevor Says:

    It’s a tragedy plain and simple. One that makes no sense from anything written or talked about on the news. A father, son, brother, uncle and good person doesn’t go to a cancer benefit with family to start shooting. No, this was a set up, sad and tragic. R.I.P Jay.

  85. big joe Says:

    3 weeks today since the world lost a good man…..miss you bro…..A promise to jay……i will not forget bro

  86. my forever Says:

    Jay was my future, he was the man I waited my whole life for. Our relationship was magic. My life has been forever altered by this tragedy. His commitment to honor and brotherhood is indescribable. The Seaman family is a family of honor, love and commitment. I am grateful to have loved Japheth and to have the love of his family in my heart forever. His love for me will forever be in my soul. RIP 2 Guns…my forever.

  87. big joe Says:

    It was an honor to know jay……every time i go to gym im still looking for him……so sad for the seamans and jays lady……cant imagine the emotions you are going through each day….so much respect …….i know jay is out there riding somewhere

  88. chromedome Says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x21k7e5z0Xs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  89. big joe Says:

    One month ago a good man and a badass biker rode off into the wind…myself and everyone i know that had the privilege to get to know jay miss him…..what a bummer tragedy….i will not forget jay…..condolences again to the seaman family and respect to the green nation forever

  90. big joe Says:

    Wow its a rainy day and just wanted to say it again……i will not forget japheth seaman….so much honor the short time i got to know him….wish this tragedy never happened….I WILL NOT FORGET 2 GUNS…..THATS A PROMISE OF RESPECT

  91. my forever Says:

    Big Joe,
    I don’t think I ever met you in person but reading your words for Japheth is such a blessing to me. He loved the gym each day and told me that he had a few friends there that really meant so much to him. Anyone that was in his life knows the dedication and love he had to his family, his friends and his brothers. I am one of the fortunate people that shared his love of life. Thank you for your posts, Japheth is and will always be my forever.

  92. big joe Says:

    To my forever,seaman family and friends,and all the green nation. it was an honor to know jay and everything he stood for…..brotherhood,honor and family just to name a few. whata tragedy for family friends and his lady. Total respect i will not forget japheth “2GUNS” seaman or any of his people.

  93. big joe Says:

    memories of japheth jay seaman…..a badass good man…..he totally lived by the “we give what we get”…..respect to the green nation all of his friends and most of all…..the seaman family…..love and respect…..2 Guns rides in the wind

  94. big joe Says:

    2 months ago today a senseless tragedy took japheth seaman away from his family and friends. He will never be forgotten……Ride on 2GUNS……everyone that knew you misses you greatly…..condolences again to the Seaman family….a real family

  95. burque westside locos Says:

    Fuck the vagos them vagos arent shit in burque them punkd brtter watch out doc mobbers are ready to ride on you lames none of u cali punks are gonna run shit puro burquenos fuck thr vagos fucken gayers

  96. Dickingurmuther Says:

    Hello lil west side guy … Ur a big talker but !!hows about u get down were u mad at hiding is not a real gangster thing u own Albuquerque then come on by u no and u are Going to hide with ur coward friends so when u ready to face men please. Fill free and u no step…or is hiding part of burques bitch code hahshshaa haha hahaha cop lovers Ross oooooobaca u no soldier McLennan

  97. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    End your shit talking gangbanger bullshit, this is not a game. Whoever you two are know that what your saying could possibly cause attention and consequences noboby wants. If you got a beef, want to settle a “dis”or just got a fucking problem go be a man and handle your shit don’t punch keys safe from a response.

    Learn some respect

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  98. rollinnorth Says:

    Well said, AVAGOVFFV. Have to wonder if that crap isn’t some fed trying to stir it up.

    FTF.

    Respect.

  99. Georgieboy Says:

    My condolences

  100. BIG JOE Says:

    Miss you japheth seaman…..keep thinkin you are just out riding somewhere….you were always about the saying…..WE GIVE WHAT WE GET….it was an honor to know you….L&R to your family and all of your brotherhood….NEVER FORGOTTEN

  101. BIG JOE Says:

    3 months ago today a good man and bro passed on… JAPHETH 2GUNS SEAMAN GBNF….RIP BROTHER I KNOW YOU ARE OUT THERE RIDING……L&R to Seaman family and all of his 22 Green Brothers…..8-4-13 never forget

  102. shane Says:

    J, I love and miss you my friend.

  103. Big Joe Says:

    Hard to believe……4 months today since japheth seaman passed on and rode to Valhalla to be with other brothers……..You will not be forgotten bro 2GUNS….L&R Forever

  104. OC VAGO 1%er Says:

    I spent time with my N.M. brothers and their families last week. The weight of the loss of Jay was ever present. Jay was loved deeply. He was admired and respected. A father. A son. A brother. A friend. You can see the pain in their eyes. I see how an act of betrayal and cowardice has affected so many others. I have been moved by this. Grief does profound things to people. It strengthens you or it destroys you. Jay’s family is strong. They will sustain. Our VAGO brotherhood is strong and we will bond closer.

    VIVA LOS VAGOS! ~ VIVA JAPHETH 2GUNS SEAMAN!

  105. Big Joe Says:

    Hard to believe today is 5 months and 5 days since my bro passed…..you are missed by everyone that ever met you and most of all the seaman family…..Gone but will never forget you bro….Green Nation Brotherhood forever2GUNS

  106. Bear Says:

    Still sad to hear about this event. Stay strong green nation.

  107. suncity Says:

    With respects to the family/club any updates?

  108. Big Joe Says:

    Hard to believe 6 months today since a good bro rode into the wind…..You will not be forgotten bro……I keep looking to see you walk into the gym jay…….GBNF…….SUPPORT GREEN NATION

  109. suncity Says:

    This tragedy has even effected us down here in EPTwhere another large club runs the city. It’s a shame it took a life to settle a squabble bad for all clubs involved big joe MOVE THE FUCK ON JESUS!!!

  110. first hand info Says:

    Iwas there and am also very sorry for the Green Nations Loss but something needs to be set streight Malachi was in the Bernalillo NM chapter of the BBMC before he joined the Vagos and he was tossed or he was ready a vago and just infultrating the Black Berets if he was not a vago at the time he should have settled his differences and not taken his old buisness to his new club .the Black berets is not an outlaw club its a POW MIA club with no need for teritory and doesn’t start crap with anybody .they were not putting on the benifit but were just attending it . It was Eppies shop not the BBMC who invited them .BBMC has Been trying to avoid conflict with Vagos at all cost BBMC lost 2 brothers and numerous other clubs lost members that summer by being run off the road on perpose.and were threatened and harrased constantly. Malachi was threatening every one constantly BBMC ignored the threats but were prepared to defend themselves. There were 5 BBMC members when Malachi Jaspeth and another Vago showed up in Bullett Proof Vests 1BBmc member walked up and said Hello to Malachi. Malachi started beating the BBMC member with his baton as the 4 other BBMC members started to head toward the Melee Jaspeth pulled 2 guns and said Kill em all and started firing the other Vago and Malichi started shooting also only then did the BBMC retrieve there guns and fire back along with numerous other civillian spectators Jaspeth was hit by a bullet from a 500 no BBMC members had a gun of that caliber and that is the reason none of them were charged the other person wounded was a BBMC member the BBMC is also very sorry about the whole incident and has no animosity to the Vago Nation May God Rest JaspethS soul and Malachi you know what I’m saying is true and you shouldn’t have brought old buisness into your New Club and now I leave with respect to the Green Nation and sorrow for there loss

  111. suncity Says:

    Thanks for shedding some insight to the incident. Best for any clubs involved in dispute to handle their business away from public places pigs/media love that shit

  112. Road Dawg Says:

    News travels slow and I’m sad to hear about the loss of another one of the Biker Community
    I just wanted to send my Condolenses to the Seaman family and The Green Machine and say LONG MAY YOU RUN,LONG MAY YOU RUN,
    ALTHOUGH THESE CHANGES HAVE COME,
    WITH YOUR CHROME HEART SHINING IN THE SUN,
    LONG MAY YOU RUN
    I hope this summer will be better then the last one,
    I also hope everyone gets to there destinations safely
    Keep the shiney side up and most of all have a good time doing it
    Lips of the dog said that

  113. rave Says:

    I think the media and tv shows are making all biker clubs look bad. And in reality most actually stand for a good cause helping family’s and children around the United States.

  114. Anonymouse Says:

    1. Black Berets are a support club for the Bandidos.

    2. Vagos start sporting New Mexico rockers.

    3. Bandidos tolerate no other outlaw clubs in NM.

    4. Do the math. The 3 Vagos were set up.

  115. Peter Serianni Says:

    Anybody still looking for that asshole by the name of james baca? He lives off of 2nd on the east end of la ploblama by the railroad tracks…It actually is not too far from where they shot Japheth..But be careful..Every time i go near him or his residence, he calls the cops..he deserves at least a fat lip to go with his big mouth but i can’t do it now, cause he knows what my intent is..THANKS

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