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Vagos Linked To Shootout

This story was published on August 5, 2013 and corrected on August 12, 2013. The original story relied on the accuracy of a press release issued by the Nevada Attorney General. That release identified Michael Joseph “Tomahawk” Hughes, Steven Martin “Tank” Shaw and Chad Gary “Halfbreed” Kruger as members of the Vagos Motorcycle Club. The three men are not, in fact, members of the Vagos and the story has been edited to correct the Nevada Attorney General’s lie.

The Vagos Motorcycle Club has been linked to a shootout yesterday in Albuquerque, New Mexico. According to multiple news reports about 50 shots were fired at a motorcycle shop fundraiser for a sick, 15-year-old girl in an industrial neighborhood near the intersection of Fourth and Menaul in Albuquerque. The motorcycle shop is about a half mile from the intersection of Interstate 40 and Interstate 25.

The fundraiser was sponsored by the Black Berets Motorcycle Club. The club name is an apparent homage the Vietnam era Military Assistance Command Vietnam Studies and Observations Group. The Black Berets MC has three chapters in Albuquerque.

Police said two people were injured in the incident. One victim was listed as being in “critical but stable condition” Monday morning. Shots were still being exchanged when Albuquerque city police arrived at the scene about four p.m. There were no announced arrests as of one p.m. Pacific Time Monday.

Chatty Black Beret

A Black Berets patch holder named “Chale” talked at length with television station KRQE soon after the shooting.

“They came in here and started shooting up the place, started shooting at my brothers, no questions asked. Just started shooting for no reason at all,” Chale told the television station without specifically naming the Vagos. “That’s uncalled for,” the man said. “This was a benefit for a little girl.”

“They came over here and retaliated against us because were strong here in Albuquerque,” Chale said. The Black Berets identify themselves as a philanthropic organization. “That’s what we do. What the Black Berets stand for,” Chale told the television station. “We help out the needy. We help out vets.”

Negative Publicity

The shooting was the most serious of multiple, widely publicized incidents related to the Vagos Motorcycle Club in the last two weeks.

A Vago named Ernesto Gonzalez testified Monday morning at his murder trial in Reno, Nevada. Gonzalez is accused of murdering a Hells Angel named Jeffrey “Jethro” Pettigrew during a brawl between those two clubs at John Ascuaga’s Nugget Casino in Sparks, Nevada on September 23, 2011.

Three men identified by the Nevada Attorney Gneral as Vagos and named Michael Joseph “Tomahawk” Hughes, Steven Martin “Tank” Shaw and Chad Gary “Halfbreed” Kruger were charged with insurance fraud last week in Las Vegas. Those arrests are connected to an ATF investigation of motorcycle clubs in Southern Nevada called “Operation Pure Luck.” The investigation was loudly announced on June 26. Although the Nevada Attorney General identified the three men as Vagos, they are not in fact members of the Vagos Motorcycle Club.

Those arrests follow raids on 14 homes in San Bernardino County in California on July 22. Three men named Tyler Graziano, Enrique Felix and Mark Johnson, were arrested during those raids and charged with robbery.

 

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34 Comments For This Post

  1. Jason Says:

    shooting at a bunch of x SOG guys and vets during a public benefit for a child, with children present.
    over a rocker I presume?
    WOW

  2. Jason Says:

    I guess my last post was taken down because it presumed too much, my mistake
    so maybe this will fly.

    “WOW”

    Jason

  3. BadMagic Says:

    “Pure Luck” == “Parallel Construction”?

    Uh Huh

    B-|

  4. BigV Says:

    Bad Magic: Would you put it past a little Parallel Construction for ATF to have provided some fellow LE brothers a couple sets of counterfeit patches so that they could do some guerrilla street theatre ? And thereby give further probable cause to burrow themselves up the collective asses of every patch holder and related individual in the United States ?

    Cause that wouldn’t seem to far fetched to me.

    I know jurors read here. Pay attention to what is really going on. You’re being played for fools by LE and prosecutors.

  5. Ronbo Says:

    BigV,

    I don’t think it would surprise very many people. You’ll have bad apples in any group but the ones that hide behind badges and then run around with hard ons all jacked up over how they just fucked someone over… The lowest

    Ronbo

  6. Latigo Morgan Says:

    This was right around the corner from my shop at Eppie’s Motorcycle Repair shop.

    I drop my bike off there, then walk back to my office. I could throw a rock and hit the place.

    Strange happenings, considering I never even see any Vagos around here. You are much more likely to see Bandidos.

  7. Shyster Says:

    BigV,

    You have no idea how right you may be. I just read over some discovery on a very recent “Federal Operation” where a post it was left on a photo copied page. The post it read “street theatre.”

    Shyster

  8. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Rebel,
    Change the name header on my post in the naughty box (Match the email address) it was mine, I mistakenly typed the guys name that it was directed to in the name field… My bad it was meant for the Jabber story.

    Thanks

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  9. John Says:

    Finally, music from my generation, I saw Graci Slick and the Jefferson Airplane at Altamont through the purple haze an’ orange sunshine,one hell of a party !

  10. Meh Says:

    Groups trying to defend against government pressure can’t afford the luxury of openly capping each other for giggles (I’m not implying that happened in this case), and just because the mob in government uniform is becoming increasingly corrupt doesn’t make saints out of their targets however desirable such a public self-portrayal may be.

    “Divide et Impera” worked for Julius Caesar and clubs are fundamentally tribal groups. As long as ruling elites can count on permanent, irrevocable rivalries they will exploit them. There is a reason both US political parties are so much alike yet use social issues to exploit rivalry thus manipulating both sides of the political spectrum…

    Actual physical attack by provocateur LEO doesn’t fit their aversion to personal risk and a dead one would be kinda hard to explain, especially for a low-value target. OTOH with access to everyones comms or at least the pattern of comms without the content it wouldn’t be hard to provoke strife in more subtle ways.

    The most economical war is a proxy war because all that costs is breaking out the popcorn.

  11. BadMagic Says:

    BigV,

    “Bad Magic: Would you put it past a little Parallel Construction for ATF to have provided some fellow LE brothers a couple sets of counterfeit patches so that they could do some guerrilla street theatre ?”

    Not at all. History repeats itself.

    B-|

  12. Jason Says:

    Meh,
    your not a former snake eater are you, your reasoning sounds real familiar.
    jay

  13. Road Whore Says:

    Yes, lord…there have been so many times I have wanted to do something philanthropic but I trembled in fear that mc “gangs” would find out about my charitable intentions and come and shoot me up, and my little dog Toto, too.

    Why, just last week I wanted to organize a charity ride for sick children and several mc “gangs” banded together to come and shoot up my house, threaten my family, and then went on a murderous rampage against the sick children.

    Give me a friggin’ break.

    About the only thing you can absolutely count on from any branch of LE or from 99% of the press is outright lies in the form of deceptions that would make a professional stage magician envious.

  14. dontbfooled Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kb6g0OPQFM

  15. BKing22 Says:

    Some of the comments on here are laughable at best. Are you guys so far up club members asses that you can’t forever just call a spade a spade?

  16. BMW Says:

    I have to wonder exactly how many of these incidents are staged or set up by LE? It is widely believed that many of the past California/Nevada conflicts were set up by informers or directly by LE. I don’t know anyone who wants to shoot up a charity event…

  17. Meh Says:

    “your not a former snake eater are you, your reasoning sounds real familiar.”

    I wasn’t in the reptile-munching business.

    The reasoning is basic observation of how many elites divide and rule. The players go about their business fighting each other thinking they are free actors. They start that way, but because manipulation plays to some very basic human motivations, the existing conflict can be fanned by outsiders.

    “Subdivide and rule” requires compromising the group so it will go on disruptive snipe hunts internally (instead of systematic internal security) and appear incompetent externally. Don’t filter who gets to play and infiltration will happen. (Prospect periods which outlast a few fiscal year funding cycles could be a brilliant way around sustaining long infiltrations.) Compartmenting information keeps secrets secret.

    Not one of the logical personnel vetting, OPSEC, COMSEC, or INFOSEC measures would break any sort of law nor is mentioning them a suggestion of any utility for that purpose.

    They could apply to peaceful social activists.

    If you get interested, check out COINTELPRO, which was eventually exposed by a burglary of an FBI office.

    From the Wikipedia entry on COINTELPRO, lest anyone think “it can’t happen here”. Apologies for the shitty formatting.

    “The intended effect of the FBI’s COINTELPRO was to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, or otherwise neutralize” groups that the FBI believed were “subversive”[29] by instructing FBI field operatives to

    create a negative public image for target groups (e.g. by surveilling activists, and then releasing negative personal information to the public)

    break down internal organization

    create dissension between groups

    restrict access to public resources

    restrict the ability to organize protests

    restrict the ability of individuals to participate in group activities”

  18. Meh Says:

    More FBI follies:

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/06/bulger-lawyers-attacked-fbi/2625063/

    “From the trial’s start on June 12 until the last witness left the stand Aug. 2, Brennan and Carney worked at uncovering government practices that allowed violent crimes to go unpunished, and in some cases, helped murders take place.

    One of the defense team’s fattest targets has been the Boston office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which prosecutors admitted in closing arguments was “a mess” in the 1970s and ’80s. Former agents, led by questions from Brennan and Carney, described an FBI culture in which agents routinely took bribes, leaked information to criminals, blocked investigations and retaliated against a whistleblower who tried to stop the leaks.

    “You want to murder Wimpy Bennett? I’ll tell you the bus stop he’s going to be at,” Brennan said in closing arguments as he quoted FBI agent Paul Rico in a conversation with Stephen “The Rifleman” Flemmi, Bulger’s partner. Flemmi testified that when Bennett, his gang war rival in the 1960s, showed up for the bus “right on time,” Flemmi shot him.”

  19. anon Says:

    “FBI allowed informants to commit 5,600 crimes”

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/04/fbi-informant-crimes-report/2613305/

  20. Road Whore Says:

    @ Meh and anon:

    Thanks for those valuable links. Now we know who the REAL gangs are!

  21. Pig Says:

    After reading both stories on this event, I have to say, I’m a bit confused. I’ve never heard of the Black Beret’s but according to their story, three Vagos showed up to their charity event, fired somewhere in the neighborhood of 70 rounds from an extendable baton into a crowd of dozens of BBMC patch holders and only managed to hit each other? Something isn’t passing the sniff test here.

  22. Franchesca Says:

    Sounds to me like the Vagos club, not gang, were set up, you don’t park your bikes in a drive bye shooting. 3 against 40? sounds like the black beret gang was the ones starting things.Sounds like the Vagos got hassled and when one of the black berrets was getting his ass handed to him, the black berrets buddies got scared and started shooting at the Vagos club instead of breaking up the fight.

  23. junior Says:

    @Jason. Last time I checked pigs don’t eat snakes. junior

  24. Budweiser Says:

    junior- Interesting comment. Please elaborate….

  25. Sieg Says:

    Something that should be pointed out…

    A poster decribed the BB as “ex-SOG”. For them to have actually been SOG, the youngest would be like 62. And that would be a stretch.

    Always got a kick outta the “Vietnam vets” that are younger than me!

    FTF/FTP
    TOSIAR
    5 to 1
    SYLO

  26. Paladin Says:

    Sieg,

    Yeah, I saw that. I’m 63. I guess those guys are using the “new math”.

    Long May You Ride (to those that deserve to),

    Paladin

  27. Budweiser Says:

    I think he may have taken “Black Beret” literally but probably just wants to add fuel to the fire.

  28. Joe Citizen Says:

    I like to think we can read between the lines, we can see the real story

    through the media influence…lets see if we can formulate a solid

    theory, based on whats been put out on the tube and net.

    Those Vagos were invited by that shop owner to the “BOGUS Fund

    Raiser”. This happened so the clubs mentioned could kill Vagos.

    The shooting started immediately so the truth is evident, there were no

    woman or children present, how could there be a crowd of civilians and

    not have a huge body count at the scene? The answer is you couldnt.

    There were almost 100 rounds reported spent at 3 innocent men

    pinned down behind their “running” scooters for cover while a well

    armed group of cowards wearing a support clubs patchs tried to murder

    them all. The interviews were given by another kind of

    coward so as to cover themselves. The physical

    evidence at the scene will vindicate these Vagos, but unfortunately

    that wont bring back their fallen brother. My thoughts and prayers go

    out to the family made to look like villans.

    we are so sorry for your loss.

  29. wake up Says:

    It was a real fundraiser there were a lot of women and children there and it was a beautiful day for a benefit the black berets are a very charitable orginization they put on toy runs they also block protesters from military funerals and are requested to. Escourt many soldiers funersl processions they are well known in new mexico and well liked they have been around over 20 years. They are not a support club for any body and the five black berets st the benifet that were at the benifet eppie was sponsering. Were not expecting the vagos to come ridind in like yosimite sam and start shooting up the place so in true new mexico spirit everyone at the benifit started shooting back including numerous civillians and the five Black members and what would you have done in there place (he bottom line is the Vagos screwed up and one was killed people in. New Mexico Believe in self defence Later People. No disrespect meant

  30. wake up and first hand info Says:

    Can you please remove the post on vago dead in albuquerque and vagos involved in shooting trey might cause unessary deaths thank you. I was there but I don’t know any of the parties involved and have met only a few Black Berets the one lastnight I tried to delete and the one the other day I plead temporary insanity .I’m an iraqi Vet and sometimes the booze and PTSD gets the better of me I apolidize for any trouble I might have caused THANK YOU they are both at the end of the comments God Bless and take care please don’t publish this thank you

  31. henry Says:

    Sorry about all the negative publicity hitting your club.
    It seems like the powers that be are trying there best to cause hate and discontentment between the M.C.
    Sometimes I think its just out of pure jelousy.
    Or mayby its the only way they can get funding. If there is’nt a problem between clubs they might just fabricate one.
    I might sound a little paranoid but its been happening too much lately. Just saying and I could be wrong n
    That would’nt be the first time
    Henry

  32. henry Says:

    Let’s try this again
    Last one didn’t fly too far.
    I’m starting to believe the possibilty there might be a little coersion from outside sources could be at play here. The oldest rule in the book DEVIDE and COUNQUOR
    Especially when you consider WE have been learning how to work together through groups like NCOM and Numerous motorcycle rights orginizations of which I have attended many.
    It seems like some people might be threatened by such orginizations .but maybe I’m wrong

  33. Fucc wake up Says:

    Wake up ur a fucc en joke kill ur self make it official
    Kill ur self

  34. riot187 Says:

    We as a peaceful country need to keep chairty events safe and for all biker clubs and civilans. These events are ment for helping peolpe not hurting them. This is a new year cant we all work together to help thoes in need. Thank you and God bless all motorcycle clubs and be safe.

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