On Writing Samizdat

March 25, 2013

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I live in a quiet part of the jungle and I know how to listen so I learned this from the beating drums of the jungle telegraph. About a week ago, a member of a well known and widely respected motorcycle club was complaining in his cell in a Connecticut prison. No one told me this. The drums told me. And, the chattering monkeys.

“…last year,” the native drums repeated, “they began to bar books about or by motorcycle club members. This includes the book The Aging Rebel: Dispatches From The Motorcycle Outlaw Frontier by Donald Charles Davis. These books are purely being banned because their subject matter includes motorcycle clubs. They use the ‘catch-all’ ‘promotes criminal activity’ while still allowing books on the Mafia, murder, kidnapping and corruption of government officials, all of which apparently promote NO criminal activity.”

The prisoner’s current estimated release date, the monkeys tell me, is June 2060. I don’t even know this guy’s name, his inmate number or the institution where he is currently being rehabilitated for his eventual release back into society in another, mere, 47 years. That is why they do not appear here. Although, I would not say even if I did know.

Obviously, the benevolent and all knowing social engineer Michael Bloomberg has extended the frontiers of his tyranny northward into New England. So to name this prisoner, even if I knew his name which I do not, would doom him to further re-education and other forms of corrective actions by the wise and infallible Connecticut Department of Correction. Isn’t that a wonderful name for a psychopathic society? The Department of Correction?


Right To Read

A few people who read this – particularly social liberals – may be surprised to learn that among the other rights prisoners forfeit is the right to read what they want. In the United States, until recently, the right to read anything was considered one of the most basic freedoms. One driver of the abolitionist movement was outrage that slaves were forbidden to read. Frederick Douglas wrote movingly of the fury his masters unleashed on him when they caught him reading. Next thing you know Harriet Beecher Stowe was writing the book that started the Civil War. Slaves couldn’t read Uncle Tom’s Cabin of course. Plantation owners would have banned Stowe’s book if they could. But the sad and inflammatory tale of what happened to poor, old Tom got read anyway.

The right to read what you want inspired a peasant’s revolt in late 14th Century England, drove the Protestant Reformation and was considered integral to American democracy for almost 200 years – even if you were a prisoner. As recently as 1974, in a case called Procunier v. Martinez, the Supreme Court ruled that prison officials had virtually no right of censorship.

But the high court began to back track in 1987, in a decision called Turner v. Salley. After that case, the First Amendment right to read could be “reasonably regulated” if prison officials asserted a “legitimate neutral interest.” The Supremes seem to have wanted to keep books that describe the does and don’t of successful prison breaks out of the hands of prisoners. And, this ruling established something called the “Turner Test.”

Banning The Aging Rebel clearly fails the Turner Test for two reasons. First because The Aging Rebel is a book of essays, all of which first appeared on this website, it is totally removed from any penological interest. There isn’t a single paragraph about how to make a tattoo gun out of a CD player or how to transform a toothbrush into a knife. The parts of the book prisoners seem to like best are the essays about riding a motorcycle under the Southwestern sky. Secondly the book has been banned simply and only because it appeals to bikers. A specific phrase in the Turner ruling, a “legitimate neutral interest,” explicitly means that a book cannot be banned simply because a jailer dislikes a certain idea or group – like bikers.samiillustration2

The Turner Test became a little less important after 1989 when a slightly different Supreme Court ruled in Thornburg v. Abbott that prison officials could restrict what a prisoner reads as long as they could offer an argument that the restriction served a legitimate penological interest. Connecticut’s censorship probably fails that test, too. But, any argument against banning any non-religious book disappeared after a Supreme Court case in 2006 called Beard v. Banks. Beard allows any little dictator to legally ban anything she wants – based on her own professional opinion. If a prison official has a professional belief based on his experience and training that the Moon is made of green cheese he can punish or prevent dissent by simply banning books that argue that the Moon is made of old rocks.

In their dissent to Beard, Justices Stevens and Ginsburg warned that prison regulations that could arbitrarily take away prisoners’ right to read what they wanted “comes perilously close to a state-sponsored effort at mind control.”

David Fathi, who at the time was the senior counsel for the ACLU’s national Prison Project, later called the ruling “a deliberate attempt to strip prisoners of the most fundamental attribute of citizenship, and even of personhood – the right to know, to learn, and to think about what is happening in the community, the country, the world.”

And, chances are you are just learning all this now because, ironically, this is not the sort of thing newspapers, magazines and television networks like to report. What newspapers and the networks did report was a ruling the high court announced the day before, that case was Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, which established certain constitutional rights for Al Qaeda detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Stevens and Ginsburg voted for that one, too and the rest of the court let the two liberals win. So that disturbance in The Force had to be righted with Beard. Not even liberal Supreme Court Justices can have it their way every time. The Hamdan and Beard rulings taken together probably illustrate as well as anything how American “justice” actually works.

Kimberly J. Weir

The Connecticut official who decided that The Aging Rebel “encourages or instructs in the commission of criminal activity” is Kimberly J. Weir. Weir is one of those American success stories that keep getting shoved down the people’s collective throat. She has been a Connecticut jailer since 1990. During that time she has been promoted up through the ranks, serving as a guard, a unit manager, an Affirmative Action Investigator, a deputy warden and now she is Director of Security and literary critic at large. While working on the open side of the bars she has found time to earn a bachelor’s degree in “Criminal Justice and Human Service” and a master’s in something called “Human Service/Organizational Management and Leadership.”

Her official biography adds, “Director Weir’s commitment to help others is not only exemplified by the dedication she demonstrates on the job, but also by her community involvement. She served as a mentor and role model to young girls, volunteered to assist families victimized by fire, helped build homes for Habitat for Humanities, participated in Extreme Home Makeovers, volunteered as a Big Sister, and as a crisis response advocate for women who have been victimized by domestic violence. She is also an active member of the Progressive Community Baptist Church where she serves as a Leadership Board member and leads several ministries.”

I don’t know Weir. I never heard of her before. My first reaction after learning, from the monkeys and the drums, that she had banned my little and unimportant book was to sit down and write her a polite and sincere thank you note. The book doesn’t sell that well so I’m considering adding a headline to the front cover that screams, “Now! Banned by the Connecticut Department of Corrections for Encouraging and Instructing Criminal Activity!”

Kim Weir

On the other hand Weir did just cost me 16,000 potential readers. She banned The Aging Rebel because a prisoner ordered a copy with the intent of reading it and this was a way for her to bully and further dehumanize the man. Politicians call Weir’s employer the “corrections industry” but it is really the “punishment industry.” It’s a vital component of our new “knowledge-based,” “post-industrial” economy – like the foreclosure business, big data and usury.

There isn’t much new to say about the punishment business but some of what everybody already knows is probably worth repeating here now. The corrections industry has been bigger than the tobacco business for more than 15 years. It writes its own laws through something called the American Legislative Exchange Council or ALEC. ALEC lobbied for and got passed the California Three Strikes law in 1994. As an industry, corrections staunchly supports both the war on drugs and the war on illegal immigrants. More Americans work in a prisons, about 800,000, than work for an airline. In 2010, just two private prison corporations had revenues of $3 billion. The U.S. prison population quadrupled between 1980 and 2007. The United States has five percent of the world’s population and 25 percent of the world’s prisoners. About one percent of all American adults is in prison or jail. About 33 percent of the American adult population is either locked up or on probation. No one bothers to compile statistics on how much this all costs. Eight years ago, 2005 was the last year for which official statistics are available, it cost an average of about $24,000 to imprison someone for a year.

There are several economic explanations for the growth and escalating influence of the prison-industrial complex. The most obvious is the rebirth of slavery. According to an article in The Huffington Post late last year, “nearly a million prisoners are now making office furniture, working in call centers, fabricating body armor, taking hotel reservations, working in slaughterhouses, or manufacturing textiles, shoes, and clothing, while getting paid somewhere between 93 cents and $4.73 per day.” Virtually all Fritz helmets are made by prison labor, so that element of the emerging slave industry is vital to our national defense.

Weir represents the psychological aspect of creating a huge underclass of legal inferiors. “All madness,” the psychiatrist Fritz Perls once observed, “is power madness.” Weir is one of those people, so common in the police and corrections fields, who likes to push powerless people around. Her ruling is not about The Aging Rebel. She just saw the book as an opportunity to rub a powerless man’s face in the dirt.

Who knows what books Weir read while earning her prestigious advanced degree in Human Service/Organizational Management and Leadership. She probably didn’t read anything by the 19th Century philosopher Friedrich Engels.

Which is a shame. Because if Weir was just slightly better read she might understand that laws are easily disobeyed and words cannot really be banned. Sure, she has made a powerful statement of her contempt for her charges, for the prisoner who wanted to read The Aging Rebel and for that book’s author and its contents. But if only she had found time to glance through Engels she might have stumbled over his truest and most famous dictum: That the one constant in history is irony. And, from there she might even have stumbled upon the phenomena called samizdat.



Samizdat, usually pronounced SAHM-hees-dot in English and something more like sah-MEEZ-dot in Russian, is a word invented in the Soviet gulags during the reign of Joseph Stalin. It translates literally as “self-publication.” It is usually translated as “forbidden writings.” But what it really means is writing which cannot be officially suppressed.

Prisoners read and write. They have always written and read. They have a lot of time to kill.

Men educate themselves in prison. An ignorant pimp named Malcolm Little became the now sainted Malcolm X while he was locked up. An alleged embezzler named William Sidney Porter became a writer named O. Henry in prison. Thomas Mallory wrote what was arguably the first European novel, Le Morte d’Arthur in a prison cell sometime before his death in 1471. The book passed through some unknown pairs of prisoners’ hands before it was finally published in 1485 and eventually became the Broadway musical Camelot. Russian prisoners in the 20th Century, many of them political prisoners, read the novels of Solzhenitsyn and Pasternak as samizdat. Before it was a best seller and a movie in the West, Doctor Zhivago was samizdat. These words you are reading now are hardly Doctor Zhivago but they are samizdat. And, they will make their way into the Connecticut prisons, probably within another week, whether Kimberly Weir likes it or not.

New Media

In case you hadn’t noticed, the world is undergoing a profound set of changes. On the one hand, policemen and other anti-democratic constituencies around the world seek to define reality and suffocate the free exchange of ideas by controlling language. For example, the term “gang” or even more to the point here the term “outlaw motorcycle gang,” or the boundary marker between informed and uninformed biker experts, the common codeword “OMG.” The world is awash in propaganda – which is the use of certain words to describe some limited information to achieve a particular effect. Propaganda might serve a good or bad end. In the broader world, there is now something called “marriage equality.” What were once soldiers are now “warriors” and will soon be “female warriors.” There are, apparently, both “Islamofascists” and “Islamophobes.” Numerous words and phrases now have legal meanings that are at odds with their meanings in common English, like “criminal enterprise,” “conspiracy,” “racket” and, a current favorite, “transnational gang.”

In this historical moment, most propaganda serves the enforcers and enablers of repression who have allied themselves with traditional media. That is why people who want to know something about bikers often find themselves reading a book written by Kerrie Droban or George Rowe instead of a book written by Donald Charles Davis – because the same big publishers who published Droban and Rowe passed on The Aging Rebel. The criminal justice and prison systems are poorly understood by most citizens because major magazines and national newspapers refuse to look. It can be hard to look. It can be unpopular to look. Most jurors in biker cases ground their verdicts in lies they have been told by television – not simply by Gangland and The Devils Ride but by the factually evil nitwits who are Action News Now.

Ironically, these traditional and now corrupted ways of spreading words, ideas, news and complaints are dying. Magazines are folding right and left. Newspapers are dropping like flies. Literary agents refuse to accept new clients. The hot new novel will be written by Lena Dunham, Gangland is no longer in production. And meanwhile, a million blogs bloom. So-called new media has become the new samizdat.

Most of the cheerleaders for traditional media condemn internet writing. The most common complaint is that the internet is full of lies. Sometimes it is.

But the internet is also full of truths that you can find nowhere else. Forbidden writing is mostly found on the net because unlike traditional publishing, journalism, television and film there are no guardians of the gate – like the editors who think No Angel is more truthful than The Aging Rebel. Or, like Kimberly Weir.

Anyone can publish in cyberspace even without official approval. The Arab Spring would have been impossible without the internet. There could have been no Occupy Movement, no Tea Party and certainly no hactivist group like Anonymous without the internet. Democratic and dissident movements in countries as disparate as Mexico and Burma spread news and ideas as samizdat on the internet. Governments everywhere, including the American government, are very concerned about the internet and about the free expression it represents. Even in the United States, internet surveillance is pervasive and civil libertarians are increasingly concerned about that.

But surveillance is much less dangerous than censorship. Censorship is really only possible in a place like prison, or in a country that has become a prison like China, or in the prison Michael Bloomberg thinks America should become. There are no walls, bars, restraint chairs, spit masks or ball gags in cyberspace. I can say almost anything I want to say here and so can you – whether the apparatchiks approve or not.

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84 Responses to “On Writing Samizdat”

  1. Samurai Says:

    “sigh” Just say no to trolls. This site has been intellectually driven since day one, people getting on here to start a fight about something that has nothing to do with the subject at hand is stupid as fuck.

  2. Dan L Says:

    @ Glenn S
    Sorry for the last two comments I made,the first one took a long time to post,I thought I was being censored! The irony of being what I thought was censored on an article about samizdat was a little too much for me to handle then I got weird!!

    peace out Dan L

  3. Dan L Says:

    @Genn S
    The sequence that I am getting these posts Is all messed up. I just read your reply,and I get your point.There must be better mental health care for everybody in prison and out,and what are we doing torturing people to the point that they could commit such gruesome murders? Total insanity is the only thing that explains how someone could blow another persons brains out and then take his clothes!

    peace out Dan L

  4. Snow Says:

    @ Dan L
    People who haven’t been to prison have no idea what it’s like to have their whole lives under control by the system. Snow

  5. mule Says:

    The shit I saw in prison was un fucking real. When society breaks down or when shit hits the fan, it’s going to be like prison on steroids…

    Glen I’m glad your living free, our stories are pretty much the same.

  6. Glenn S. Says:

    Mule said: “The shit I saw in prison was un fucking real. When society breaks down or when shit hits the fan, it’s going to be like prison on steroids…”

    And at least people like us will know what to expect, how to respond, how to survive, and how to thrive.

    While I was in, I had the idea that I’d write a novel about a haunted prison. At the time, I was residing in the 150 year old “Building 1” at the old SC penitentiary: Central Correctional Institution. It was good atmosphere for such a project. My friends kept me motivated by asking for the next chapter. Then when I got out and got a computer, I typed it in the proper format and submitted it to literary agents and publishers. I got “positive rejections” (“too long, too complicated, and too full of death”).

  7. Bill Says:

    Glenn S: Never been there, but your rejections: (“too long, too complicated, and too full of death”) sound like you nailed it. You certainly write well, and have something important to say, that as has been suggested, will become increasingly meaningful to all of us over time. I respectfully suggest you persist. I think our host’s perseverance along those lines is a worthy working example. This whole site exists only because of one man’s (Rebel) refusal to accept rejection. Maybe you just lack the time right now, but it sounds like it’s already written and just needs a proper “hearing”, from a more informed audience. Again, times are changing, for the worse, and increasingly more of us will want to know something of what you have learned. With that in mind, it seems the likelihood of acceptance versus rejection would only increase over time, so maybe just keep putting it out there, as the audience is unfortunately becoming better informed. In a way it seems, “time is (finally?) on your side” here.

  8. Glenn S. Says:

    Bill said: ” Maybe you just lack the time right now.”

    Actually, I studied the craft of writing after those rejections and wrote a second novel length manuscript (clique of powerful politicians and captains of industry kidnapping young, high achieving women to impregnate and adopt the offspring into suitable homes to provide the next generation of leaders to usher in a totalitarian government). It turned out to be 150K words and was pretty much dated by the time it was finished. I was told no publisher would do >100K words for an unknown writer unless it was sci fi. I’ve got some ideas for a futuristic sci fi novel. But then I bought a motorcycle and life changed dramatically. While I was writing, I worked, wrote, and had a social life. Now the bike calls me constantly, and is calling me now. As a relatively new biker, I feel unqualified to write about my new passion at this point. I am not yet qualified to write next to Rebel, Barger, Roadblock1%er, etc. That might change as time passes.

    I figure I’ve got 10 good years of riding in me, and I want to explore the country from a motorcycle. I’ve never felt freer than when I’m riding. Then I might have to get a trike. Maybe I’ll pick up the writing again then, if there’s still a 1st Amendment. Maybe something will compel me to do so sooner.

    I’m seeing that, right now, the writers that think like I do, and are not already household names, are having to self-publish. If anybody wants to read my haunted prison novel, I’ll set up an e-mail account and send it upon request.

  9. Frequent Flyer Says:

    I’m listening to the John Bachelor show on AM radio and he used the word “samizdat” as a reference to chinese censorship, and thanks to Rebel, I knew what he was talking about. Ha ha. How cool is that.

    @Glenn S

    Writing is WORK. ha ha. I know because I too, once upon a time in America,wanted to be a writer. But Bachannal and sloth won the day.

    What’s cool is my daughter writes— and I try to encourage her to pursue it but like me, she gets lazy.

  10. Glenn S. Says:

    Frequent Flyer said: “What’s cool is my daughter writes…”

    Yeah, that is cool.

  11. Snow Says:

    @ Glenn S.
    I would be interested in reading your novel, maybe easier in the long term if you set it up as a pdf file so we could just click and download as wanted/ Respect, Snow.

  12. slycechyx Says:

    I write a blog that gets almost zero traffic, which is ok, just a way to clear my thoughts sometimes. But it was the blog site that recommended to me to read Rebel’s blogs.
    Love your writing style & your way with words.

  13. BadMagic Says:

    Request for novel sent.


  14. Frequent Flyer Says:

    I had an idea for a novel, the working title was/is SKELLS. It was based on my real ife experience working for a ticket scalper. It was the furthest I ever delved into Lowlife. Between that, pulling telemarketing scams and working on a loading dock I got a good hard look into the soft white underbelly of the American dream (I took that line from a Dead Kennedy’s song ha ha).

  15. Philo Says:

    Outstanding! I’ll keep an eye out for it.

  16. Philo_Bedo Says:

    Outstanding! I’ll keep an eye out for it.


  17. Austin Says:

    @Pig – I did it too.

    @GlennS = Seriously … wwww.wordpress.com You have developed an audience right here. Just do it.

    @Rebel – Ironic – yes. That illiterate tweakers and self-promoting hacks get picked up by big publishing companies, while you have to self-publish. Well, It’s because the mass media/corporate world can’t handle the truth. You find out and report things which are actually happening and are verifiable. People who like things straight up read your blog, and buy your books.

    “Disneyfication” is what I see happening to most people. They want to stay in their happy bubble. Others want to use quasi-“reality” for personal gain, like the incident with the photographer in San Diego. I’d like to see a pseudoreality show where a few of THOSE people were dropped on an island to survive without external intervention. Oh wait – Lord of the Flies has been done already.

    What you have created here is a community where like-minded (or not)individuals can chime in and participate. Give a little – Get a little. As I write, I`ve got John Butler Trio playing. Got turned onto them by following a link I found in here.

    Plus you have the knowledge, experience, resourcefulness and amazing power of your readership. I am absolutely in awe of Chesty coming up with that idiot Police Chief’s New Jersey pension information. IMHO the problem with that guy is – one was exposed, there are probably a thousand more just like him, all still getting away with the same crap.

    Open Communication is the answer and you are part of the solution. Write ON!
    Thank You so much for your illuminations

  18. Glenn S. Says:

    Austin said: ” wwww.wordpress.com You have developed an audience right here. Just do it.”

    I dunno. I was re-reading my haunted prison novel last night and I think I can do a lot better. Meanwhile, I’ll just add my cent and a half here from time to time.

    Rebel said: “Framing Dave Burgess real soon now.”

    Any way for us to get signed copies?

  19. mule Says:

    What I find insane is that good writers like Rebel with fact driven stories about our 1% world, get PASSED OVER for fucking low life cops, feds, rats who have someone write lies for them. I have one of those books by yves, it was given to me. The pages are pretty rough so I crumple them up a few times before wiping…

    The passion comes thru when I read your stories Rebel, every story brings about some type of emotion. If that makes any sense? I dig it!

  20. Glenn S. Says:

    I hate to say it, but I think its important to read the rat/cop books (preferably bought at used book stores where the rat/cop won’t make any money from it). These books provide a unique opportunity to know your enemy, get into their heads, see what makes them tick, and the chances of recognizing one and of recognizing their tactics increase.

    Of course, we have to learn to read between the lines, cut through the rationalizations and bullshit.

  21. Rebel Says:

    Dear mule,

    Thank you very much for your kind words. I’ve never had any contact with Yves Lavigne so I only know him by the words he has published. Personally, I think that guy is a joke.


  22. Snow Says:

    @ Glenn S.
    My e-mail address was compromised by a hacker a couple weeks ago so I’ve been unable to use it. My plan when I get the chance is to abandon it and get another when time allows. I’ll send you my request then. Snow

  23. chevyweight Says:

    REBEL !


    I will read your story in a second – (excuse my following grammer”= I have up from thur. night – mon. night because there is big thing with g-bags and do t com regulation meeting today,, what i found out made be so worried for a potential financial loss to me and even greater to all business and a direct attack against our saw viurnity and natty-light sucker ity. 10 page story written about this uncovering a very real and scary racketeering conspiracy to put it midly. its almost ready to go out but still needs lots of help today is important because big meeting today and big news.

    asking for permission to share and ask for help by posting link to a .jpeg copy

    save > dot > com > (where ya AT?) > ymail >com

  24. Tooj Says:

    “When society breaks down or when shit hits the fan…”

    That would be when the dollar is no longer the world’s currency. Coming soon to a fan near you.

  25. Austin Says:

    @GlennS -Oh Yes, it is important to know thine enemy.
    I realized the amazing tale was actually a 1-2-3-4 well rehearsed plan orchestrated and managed by devil spawn G-men who run this game 24/7 365. No-one is special, if their lips move they are lying and they use up and burn out whomever, whenever and wherever. They make the IRA look like Sunday School teachers. Once In Never Out.

  26. Caballo Blanco Says:

    @ Rebel- Hmmmmm, very thought provoking. And yes being from Connecticut makes it more thought provoking as it’s happening now at home.

    And I ordering your book too!



  27. Midknight Says:

    That bulldog face bitch is obviously a man-hater. Her “job” gives her that warm fuzzy feeling of being superior to men when she knows she never has been shit and never will be shit. Her having a “MASTERS”(ironic?) degree only proves to me that a person can have nothing but sticky wet brown stuff between their ears and get any degree. Director of security ? And those stupid motherfuckers act like they don’t have a fucking clue why everybody wants to bury a shank in their ass. A goddam idiot would know that somebody serving 30-40 years is not somebody to keep fucking with. No I’m not a raving late night drunk. Just somrbody thats too lazy to keep a real job. I lay on my sorry ass all day and stay up all night. Great website ! Keep up the good work Rebel.

  28. Frequent Flyer Says:

    I didn’t know where to put this, but I had to bring this to everyone’s attention.

    An Amish group’s leader, Samuel Mullet Sr., was sentenced to 15 years in prison, FOR SHAVING OFF ANOTHER MANS BEARD while the rest of the group that participated in this “hate crime” got sentences ranging from one to seven years.

    15 years?!

    This is insane.


  29. Phuquehed Says:

    They basically kidnapped the victims, held them against their will, and did to them what they wanted. I’ve been in a situation once in my life where I was completely and utterly held helpless and my younger brother was urged to splash water in my face until I almost passed out from lack of being able to get a breath of air. It was the older brother of a friend of mine. I was 9 years old and the older brother of my friend was 17 and easily twice me and my friends size. He was (and probably still is) a sadistic fuck who made us beat each other up or he’d whoop on us but never hit our faces but me and my friend would oftentimes be in such pain we’d spend the day in bed trying to sleep and making up exscuses why we didn’t go out to play or anything.

    To be in that situation though, utterly helpless and done to *anything* against your will, should be treated harshly. It’s *got* to be a similar feeling a woman who is raped has…should the rape be treated less harshly? If a bunch of your OL’s friends decided they didn’t like her hair anymore because it made the rest of them look like rag dolls and they jumped her and cut it so it looked like shit, would that be okay?

    I dunno, I personally think they deserve the punishment and not meaning to sound like I’m getting down on you, just my opinion of this. I *don’t* think they need to be separated to different states as that’s the feds actng as if they think they’re a criminal gang or something and will plot against the godfather of the other ‘family’ or something, heh. Family should be able to visit easily, so the long distance thing is bad wrong.

  30. Frequent Flyer Says:


    Thank you for responding, and for sharing that story. It brought back memories when I was a kid me and the neighborhood crew would play a game called “fox and hounds”. We would break up into two groups, one group was the hunted, the other the hunters. The concept was when a hound caught a fox, the fox became a hound and the other foxes would not made aware and the strategy was to convert all foxes into hounds until only one was left, and that person was the winner. We used on city block as the playing field. Not bragging but I was the best Fox and won more than anybody (it was one the few things I excelled in among my peer group) because I was fascinated by logistics, the study of terrain, and plotting out the best escape routes from a hiding position. Anyway one time me and another kid were hiding out in someones garage (the garage door was open so I figured it would be a good hideout and I figured none of the hounds would come looking for us there). Well the owner of the house cornered us in the garage and he had a gun. The other kid panicked and started crying and hid behind me. I’m not saying I was brave, I was just in shock and I honestly didn’t think the guy would shoot us. After what seemed an eternity (probably just a few minutes if that) the guy assessed the situation and figured we were two stupid kids playing a stupid game and we weren’t looking to steal anything and he let us go. Later on it dawned on me how lucky I was the guy wasn’t a pedophile or a worse. I never told anybody I kept my mouth shut about the incident mainly because I didn’t want my dad to find out because he’d have beat the shit out of me for trespassing on the guys property. Years later after I was all grown up, I read the name in the paper, turns out that guy was mobbed up. Ha ha. Even better, he became a real estate agent who just happened to show a house to some friends of mine, who asked me if I remembered him from when we were kids. I said “no”. Ha ha. Anyway back to the Amish story—

    I see your point and respect it. However the thing that sticks in my craw is the FBI made this a federal case because the accused “took scissors across state lines”. I mean c’mon, this couldn’t be handled on a local level?

    I’m also concerned that this sets a bad precedent because recently the US Army (heavily infiltrated with an Obamunist 5th column) declared Evangelicals and Catholics as “extremist groups”.

    Scary times we live in. This country is fast becoming East Germany.

    Much respect to you, Phuquehed.

  31. Phuquehed Says:

    Oops…missed the scissors and state lines thing. Yeah, that’s fucked up and could become trouble for even the sheeple…especially since it’s now so fucking contradictory to TSA allowing knives and shit on planes again. How fucked up can our government get!?

    Respect back man, you write a hell of a lot better than me, heh.

  32. chevyweight Says:

    sorry Rebel and thread for yelling there i may have been thinking a little stressed out’ that day

  33. WARTHOG Says:

    @Frequent Flyer, Phuquehed,

    I worked with a guy that was a juror for that case. Very interesting case as to where the dividing line is on religious freedom.Equally interesting how the government is working with the convicted. They are allowing the women to do time consecutively with each other so someone can watch the children.




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