Ruben “Doc” Cavazos was quoted in a newspaper again yesterday. In an article about possible corruption in the Montebello, California Police Department that may involve a Montebello Police Sergeant and sometime ATF Tactical Field Officer named Chris Cervantes the San Gabriel Valley Tribune quoted Doc twice.
Doc, Al, John, Chris Who
Doc is the former President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club and author of the biker memoir Honor Few Fear None. He was voted out of the Mongols in bad standing in August 2008 and he is currently serving a 14 year sentence for racketeering at a federal prison near El Paso, Texas. The Tribune article was written by Frank Girardot. You can read it here.
Doc’s brother, Alvaro “Al The Suit” Cavazos, who was also voted out bad by the Mongols, launched a vendetta against Cervantes and ATF agent John Ciccone after Doc was sentenced last September. Ciccone was the case agent for Operation Black Rain – the three-year-long infiltration of the Mongols by as many as ten federal agents and at least six, paid, confidential informants. Doc, Al and Ruben Cavazos, Jr. were all indicted on charges of racketeering in October 2008. Al Cavazos spent more than a year in jail and had numerous assets including his motorcycle seized after the indictment was unsealed. Ruben Cavazos, Jr. is currently in a half-way house.
Much of Operation Black Rain was corrupt and possibly criminal. It is incontrovertible that most of the defendants were treated unfairly by federal justice. Al Cavazos has been doing a slow burn for years about the way his family was treated by federal police and prosecutors and he has said that he hopes to “get even” with Ciccone. Among the events that Al Cavazos has worked hard to make public is a shooting in the parking lot of a topless bar called Nicola’s in July 2007. According to witnesses Ciccone and Cervantes were surveilling the bar at the time of the shooting and did nothing to prevent it. You can read an account of the incident here.
Chris Cervantes was briefly detained by San Diego police in July 2011. You can read a brief account of that incident here. The incident figures prominently in the story Frank Girardot ran yesterday. Girardot wrote that “a whistle-blower lawsuit filed in June by Montebello police officers Gregory Wilsey, Brian Dragoo, Kimberly Lundy and Ricardo Rojas against the city” may help Doc and Al Cavazos “prove the 2008 federal indictment that brought down their motorcycle club was built on lies.”
The Girardot Story
The paper quoted Al Cavazos as saying, “The suit shows there’s a cover-up. I want to put them on the witness stand and ask them about the cover-ups involving members of the Montebello Police Department.”
Doc is, naturally, supportive of his brother’s efforts to discredit the police who ruined them and clean off their family name, which is at least part of the reason he has been chatting with Girardot.
According to Girardot, “In a July 11 letter from federal prison, Doc Cavazos said Cervantes and Ciccone were motivated to go after the Mongols because they believed the club had a source inside the Montebello Police Department and the detectives wanted to smoke out the source. In 2006, the inside source gave Doc Cavazos the results of a Los Angeles County District Attorney’s probe into a Montebello police Lieutenant’s allegations that Cervantes lied to obtain a search warrant in a 2002 drug case.”
On July 18 Doc Cavazos wrote Girardot, “The…case was used to portray us as a violent group in front of the federal grand jury…. If someone honest would review the evidence…justice may be found.”
The Aging Rebel Interview
Doc may have reasons for reaching out to journalists other than simply supporting his brother in a fight against police corruption. The Aging Rebel also attempted to interview Doc last week. The interview was an epic failure on many levels. Doc is a rude man who cannot be bothered with lower case letters, most punctuation or the interview convention of responding to questions. What was clear by the end of this failed interview was that Doc believes that there is a faction within the Mongols Motorcycle Club that continues to support him and his public statements are aimed at that faction.
Here, slightly edited to avoid libel, is what Doc Cavazos wants the world to know. In some cases the correspondence from this page is also quoted to add some clarity to the conversation.
I WOULD LIKE TO VERIFY THAT IT IS YOU I AM COMMUNICATING WITH. I DON’T TRUST THE ATF, THEY HAVE LIED AND PERJURED THEMSELVES THROUGHOUT THIS CASE.
FOR SOME TIME NOW I HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH VARIOUS JOURNALISTS. I AM TOLD THAT ALCOHOL TOBACCO AND FIREARMS AGENT “JOHN CICCONE” AND MONTEBELLO POLICE OFFICER “CHRIS CERVANTES “ARE NOT TO FOND OF YOU. WELL LET’S SEE IF THIS E-MAIL IS ALLOWED TO REACH YOU. FREEDOM OF THE PRESS MEANS VERY LITTLE TO THESE TWO. IF ALLOWED TO I WILL SEND SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN CICCONE, CERVANTES AND MYSELF. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC KNOW JUST HOW CORRUPT THESE TWO ARE AND HOW IF THEY DISLIKE YOU, THE LENGTHS THEY WILL GO TO TO RUIN AND EVEN ENDANGER YOUR LIFE. I AM DOING THIS SO THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHOSE NAME THESE TWO ARE GIVING UP WILL BE WARNED THAT THEIR NAMES ARE OUT THERE. REBEL WHEN FIRST I SPOKE TO THE ” DISHONEST DUO ” THEY MENTIONED THAT (name withheld) HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN ARRESTED THIS MONTHS BEFORE OUR INDICTMENT, AND HAD BEEN BOOKED AT MONTEBELLO POLICE STATION, AT THAT TIME ACCORDING TO THE” DISHONEST DUO” (name withheld) WAS “TALKING A GANG OF SHIT”.THEY SAID THEY WOULD GET EVEN WITH HIM. SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER THAT BOTH CERVANTES AND CICCONE CAME TO THE YARD WHERE I WAS WORKING OUT. THEY BOTH HAD BIG GRINS ON THEIR FACE. THEY COULD NOT WAIT TO SPREAD THE NEWS, THE FOLLOWING IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME.” HEY DOC THIS SUPPOSED TOUGH GUY WHOM YOU MENTION IN YOUR BOOK IS NOTHING MORE THAN A RAT. (Name withheld) CONTACTED THE AUSA AND WANTED TO MAKE A DEAL. (Name withheld) SAYS THAT A FRIEND OF HIS WAS AT A PIZZA PLACE IN MONTEBELLO AND THAT A FIGHT BROKE OUT BETWEEN TWO INDIVIDUALS. (Name withheld) FRIEND TOLD (name withheld) THAT ONE GUY PULLED A GUN OUT AND SHOT AND KILLED THE OTHER GUY. (Name withheld) RATTED TO THE AUSA WHO THE SHOOTER WAS. SO (name withheld) ISN’T AS TOUGH AS HE THINKS HE IS. WE FOUND THE GUY (name withheld) RATTED ON FOR THE SHOOTING, HE IS ALREADY DOING TIME FOR SOMETHING ELSE. (Name withheld) IS NOT GOING TO GET MUCH FOR HIS INFORMATION, HE WONT TELL US WHO HIS FRIEND THE WITNESS IS. HE SAYS THAT IF HE TELLS THAT THEY WILL KNOW HE HAS RATTED.” REBEL, SOMETIME LATER I WAS TRANSFERRED TO CALIFORNIA CITY CORRECTIONAL IN CALIFORNIA CITY. I WAS KEPT IN THE “SHU” IN ONE MAN CELLS. THE SHU HELD BOTH SHOT CALLERS, THOSE VALIDATED AND INFORMANTS. WHEN WE WOULD GO TO YARD THEY WOULD PLACE US IN CAGES WITH ONE CAGE BETWEEN US SO THAT WE COULD NOT REACH EACH OTHER. ONE DAY IN YARD SEVERAL INFORMANTS WERE TALKING LOUD ENOUGH SO THAT I COULD HEAR THEM. THESE INFORMANTS WERE FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT BARRIOS THEY MADE SURE I HEARD THEM TALKING ABOUT A MEMBER NAMED (name withheld) AND HOW THEY KNEW THAT HE HAD BEEN DEBRIEFED. THEY HAD SEEN HIM AT A PLACE WERE THEY DEBRIEFED, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNEW THAT ” ONE OF MY GUYS WAS A RAT”. I FINALLY ASKED THEM WHAT THEY KNEW AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE ALL BUSTED AT “MDC” AT THE SAME TIME AS (name withheld). THEY SAID THAT THEY KNEW (name withheld) HAD INFORMED ON SOME ONE BUT THEY DID NOT KNOW ALL OF THE DETAILS. THEY ALSO SAID THAT (name withheld) HAD A REALLY COOL WIFE WHO WAS A LITTLE FAT BUT THAT SHE USED TO STAND ON THE STREET OUT SIDE ” MDC” AND FLASH HER BREASTS FOR (name withheld) AND ALL THE GUYS. I SAID TO THEM ” HEY I KNOW (name withheld) OLD LADY AND SHE WOULD NOT FLASH IN PUBLIC”. THEY SAID THAT SHE USED TO TAKE CARE OF (name withheld) AND THAT HER NAME WAS “HOLLY”. REBEL I FEEL THAT THE CONDUCT OF CERVANTES AND THE “MIDGET” THAT WAS CERVANTES MONIKER FOR AGENT CICCONE SHOULD BE TOLD. THE PUBLIC ALONG WITH ALL THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE COOPERATED WITH THESE TWO SHOULD BE WARNED THAT THEY CAN NOT BE TRUSTED AND OF THE POTENTIAL DANGER IN DEALING WITH THEM. I HAVE MANY MORE FACTS TO REVEAL TO YOUR READERS. I FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT TO EXPOSE THE MANY CORRUPT PRACTICES OF CERVANTES AND THE “MIDGET” AS CERVANTES CALLS HIM . I WOULD HOPE THAT ANYONE WHO WAS PRESSURED TO LIE AND OR PERJURE THEMSELVES, WOULD AFTER READING THIS AND WHAT I HOPE WILL FOLLOW, COME FORWARD AND HELP PUT A STOP OR AT LEAST MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THESE TWO TO CONDUCT BUSINESS AS USUAL. REBEL FEEL FREE TO PRINT THIS ENTIRE ARTICLE AND SINCE I HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY HONEST AS TO THE ABOVE CONVERSATIONS HAVING TAKEN PLACE PLEASE GIVE MY NAME AS TO THE SOURCE.
July 26 A.M.
I WOULD LIKE YOUR READERS TO KNOW THAT I CAN NOT REVEAL EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW. THIS CASE IS FAR FROM OVER AND I WOULD NOT WANT TO SHOW ALL OF OUR CARDS TO TWO SUCH CORRUPT INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS CICCONE AND CERVANTES. I WILL INFORM YOUR READERS OF WHAT INFORMATION I CAN. I WILL REVEAL INFORMATION ON INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS THE INFORMATION I E-MAILED YOU REGARDING (name withheld). I DO THIS NOT TO CONFRONT INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS (name withheld) BUT TO PROVE TO THE PUBLIC THAT CICCONE AND CERVANTES ARE AS CORRUPT AS I SAY . THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY I COULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT (name withheld) COOPERATION AND THOSE INVOLVED WHICH ARE (name withheld), CERVANTES ,CICCONE AND THE AUSA. THE FEDS PRACTICE A DIVIDE AND CONQUER TACTIC SIMILAR TO THE ONE THEY USED WITH THE CLUB. NOTHING MAKES THE FEDS HAPPIER THAN WHEN THEY SEE CLUB MEMBERS ATTACKING EACH OTHER ON THE WEB SITES. NO ONE IN THIS CASE KNOWS MORE ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT IS IN STORE FOR CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE CLUB THAN I.I AM NOT GOING TO PROTECT OR DEFEND ANYONE WHOM I AM AWARE OF COMMITTING A CRIME BUT IF YOU ARE BEING ACCUSED OF A CRIME YOU DID NOT COMMIT AND I CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE I WILL. BECAUSE OF WHAT MY BROTHER AND I HAVE DONE WE HAVE PREVENTED SEVERAL INNOCENT MEMBERS FROM GOING TO PRISON FOR LIFE FOR CRIMES THAT THESE MEMBERS DID NOT COMMIT. THREE TEARS AGO I PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF TWENTY MEMBERS AND CHAPTERS WHO WERE THE TARGETS OF THE ” DISHONEST DUO”. I WAS GOING TO RELEASE IT AND INSTEAD I HELD IT BACK FOR THE REASON THAT IF I RELEASED IT THOSE NOT ON THE LIST WOULD NOT STAY TOGETHER AND FIGHT FOR THE OTHERS. IF THE CLUB DOES NOT COME TOGETHER AND COOPERATE WITH EACH OTHER IN THE LEGAL FIGHT AGAINST CORRUPTION THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE MANY MORE MEMBERS TO FALSE TESTIMONY BY WITNESSES WHO ARE TRYING TO AVOID PRISON. ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT THIS IS OVER AND THAT THEY ARE SAFE IS IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING. THOSE OF YOU SO CALLED LEADERS IN THE CLUB WHO APPROACHED CICCONE AND CERVANTES AT A FUNCTION AND SAID TO THEM ” THANK YOU FOR CLEANING UP THE CLUB” YOU MAY THINK THAT BY KISSING ASS THAT YOU ARE NOT ON THEIR LIST, WELL YOU ARE WRONG. I CAN NOT STRESS TO EVERYONE THAT THE TIME TO LEGALLY DEFEND YOURSELF IS BEFORE YOU ARE INDICTED FOR CRIMES THAT YOU DID NOT COMMIT. (Name withheld) SHOULD STOP ALL THIS KARDASHIAN TYPE DRAMA AND BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER TO BRING A LEGAL FIGHT TO CICCONE AND CERVANTES. I HAVE MET WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT ATTORNEY’S INVOLVED IN DEFENDING THE CLUB AND EACH ONE HAS SAID EXACTLY THE SAME REMARK “THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT NEED CICCONE, THEY HAVE (name withheld) “. IF YOU STILL ARE NOT CONVINCED THAT YOU NEED TO COOPERATE IN YOUR OWN DEFENSE, LET ME TELL YOU THAT THE FIRST TWO NAMES ON THE LIST OF TWENTY WERE” MONTEBELLO CHINO” AND ” THE COMMERCE CHAPTER”.
So, do you see another federal racketeering case against the Mongols coming? I understand that you don’t approve of the way (name withheld) is handling things. I understand you two guys patched into the club on the same day and I take it he is not your greatest fan either.
Please give me some examples of how Ciccone and Cervantes are corrupt.
I can tell you are furious at a lot of people about what has happened to you. But you haven’t told me a lot yet except that you are furious. I promise you that I will find a story in what you have written me so far, write a story that is as sympathetic to you as possible and run it. But for me to do that I need you to tell me who, what, where, when and why.
July 26 P.M.
I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD THINK THAT A MAN SUCH AS MY SELF WOULD LOOK FOR SYMPATHY FROM ANY ONE. I FIND IT EVEN HARDER TO BELIEVE THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU COULD USE SOME CHILDISH TACTIC TO EXTRACT A STORY OUT OF ME. LOOK BACK AND THINK OF ALL THE WAYS THAT I HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED YOU WONT FIND THE WORD” STUPID ” IN ANY OF THE MANY DESCRIPTIONS. I CONTACTED YOU IN AN ATTEMPT TO HELP OTHERS WHO ARE IN THE CROSS HAIRS OF THE ATF.I HAD ALREADY WRITTEN DOWN YOUR QUESTIONS AND WAS WAITING TO SEE IF YOU WOULD PRINT THE E-MAILS I HAD SENT YOU. ACCORDING TO THE CLUB MEMBERS, YOU ARE AFRAID TO PRINT ANYTHING THAT IS NOT APPROVED BY (name withheld). I OFFER YOU FACTS AND AN INSIDE STORY, SOMETIMES THE TRUTH IS UNFLATTERING TO INDIVIDUALS BUT WE MUST DEAL WITH IT AS MEN. UNBIASED JOURNALISM WOULD NOT ONLY HELP THOSE I AM TRYING TO REACH, BUT WOULD BE A REFRESHING CHANGE. YOU ARE NOT IGNORANT SO ASK YOURSELF IF YOUR CONDUCT IS WORTHY OF A PULITZER PRIZE WINNING STORY. INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME WITH CHILD PSYCHOLOGY START PRINTING WHAT I REVEAL TO YOU. IF NOT THAN EXCEPT MY COMPLIMENT TO YOU ON YOUR DISLIKE OF CICCONE AND OF THE TACTICS OF THE ATF AND MY GOODBYE.
You re doing fine, Doc. Good interview so far.
Just for the record, I don’t expect to win a Pulitzer in this world. I hope to pay my rent next month. Although (name withheld) who I have referred to you, has won a Pulitzer. If you have not yet heard from (name withheld) and you would like to talk to him, his email address is ***********. Maybe you will like his questions better than mine.
I don’t think you need sympathy and I did not say that you did. I think you need a louder voice. Unfortunately, no matter how loud you are nobody is going to care and what you say will not matter if you come across like a flaming asshole. So, regardless of whether you like this interview or not, I would prefer not to portray you as a jackass. I would prefer to portray you as someone who deserves to be listened to, which is to say, I would like to portray you sympathetically. I don’t do psychology. I do journalism. Journalism is writing a narrative that people want to read that includes answers to the questions who, what, where, when, why and how. Okay?
I’ll get a story out of what you have written me so far. I’ll tell you what you have given me so far. So far, the story is Doc Cavazos hasn’t got the huevos to answer reasonable questions truthfully. If you want to leave it at that I can’t stop you.
Now, another question. If I ask enough questions maybe we will eventually discover one you will answer. In June 2008 you went to your agent’s dinner for authors in Beverly Hills. Nevins has taken great pains to distance himself from you, by the way. But that June you were pretty much king of the world. Tony Curtis wanted his picture taken with you. Four months later you were locked up in a cage and Ciccone was trying to make you cooperate. Tell me the story of that summer. When did you see it coming?
YOU KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT ME NINETY PERCENT OF WHAT YOU WRITE REGARDING ME OR OPERATION BLACK RAIN IS INACCURATE. I CAN ONLY TAKE A GUESS THAT IT COMES FROM RUMORS. AS FOR PUNKING YOU OR EVEN BEING UPSET WITH YOU, PLEASE DON’T FLATTER YOURSELF, YOU WOULD NEED TO BE CONSIDERED MUCH MORE DANGEROUS TO BE IN MY LEAGUE. HUMOR ME FOR A MINUTE AND IMAGINE THAT WHAT I SAY IS TRUE AND WHAT YOU PRINT IS SO WRONG, I GIVE YOU INFORMATION THAT IS TRUE AND HARMFUL TO CICCONE. I HATE TO DISAPPOINT YOU AND ALL THE OTHERS BUT I AM STILL “DOC ” I AM STILL ON TOP OF THE WORLD.YOU AGAIN HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM WORKING ON FROM IN HERE IT IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO GET OUT OF PRISON I CAN DO TIME.IT IS SAID THAT YOU ARE AFRAID OF (name withheld) AND YOU WONT PRINT ANYTHING HE DOES NOT APPROVE OF, IF THIS IS INACCURATE AND IT ANGERS YOU WHICH IT OBVIOUSLY DOES THAN YOU NEED TO LEARN TO DISREGARD IT AS I HAVE. MAKE ME AND ALL THE OTHERS WHO ARE SPEAKING UNTRUTHS ABOUT AS IMPORTANT AS FLY SHIT, I HAVE MASTERED THAT TACTIC. I ACTUALLY FIND ALL THESE RUMORS AND ERRORS IN WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT ME RATHER COMICAL, SO YOU SEE I AM NOT THE LEAST BIT BOTHERED AND CERTAINLY NOT ANGRY. IF YOU BELIEVE I CONTACTED YOU IN AN EFFORT TO GET OUT OF PRISON YOU ARE MISTAKEN, BY REACHING YOUR READERS I WAS HOPING TO KEEP SOME MEMBERS OF THE CLUB FROM GOING TO PRISON FOR CRIMES THAT THEY DID NOT COMMIT AND BY DOING SO PUT A DAMPER ON CICCONES DAY. YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING WHEN YOU QUESTION MY” HUEVOS” I AM DOC. I SENT YOU THOSE TO E-MAILS TO SEE IF YOU WOULD PRINT ANYTHING THAT (name withheld) MAY NOT APPRECIATE, IF SO I WOULD CONTINUE WITH THE INTERVIEW. I AM LATE FOR RECREATION YARD AND SINCE WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE LETS NOT WASTE EACH OTHERS TIME ANYMORE.
You are doing good. As long as we are having a conversation and you are talking I am fine with it. You are a tough interview. I do a lot of these. I told a guy yesterday that interviewing you is like interviewing a barking dog.
I don’t care what you think about me personally. Really don’t. You are quickly becoming yesterday’s news but I still think you are an interesting story that people should know about.
As far as things I have said about you that are inaccurate, please feel free to correct me. I have said that the ATF UCs were feeding you drugs and I have also been told that is untrue. I think I have written both at the same time. I have been told that your book was suggested to you by an UC and that the ATF helped arrange your publishing career. Portions and photos of the book have been entered into evidence so that is at least plausible. And, I am virtually certain that the Gangland episode was arranged by the ATF and you were played on that. Several people have told me that they think you developed a cocaine problem and that is what went wrong with the Mongols. You look a little speedy to me in the Gangland episode so that also seems plausible. Al has told me you never did any drugs.
Please feel free to straighten me out.
I have also written that you did not cooperate with the ATF, did not rat anybody out, and that is the reason you got 14 years. Meanwhile the DOJ used the rumor that you were cooperating to coerce other defendants into plea deals. Some people in the club are still convinced you are cooperating right now and that another indictment is coming. Please respond to any of that.
Now I’m going to ask you some more questions that are more to the point so I would like you to try hard to cooperate. We may have common ground here.
Please give me some examples of Ciccone and Cervantes being corrupt. Al is very big on the shooting at Nicola’s. I am more interested in examples of these two guys fasifying evidence. I can maybe fuck up these guy’s days a little bit if I can show they falsified evidence.
Frank Girardot ran a story in the San Gabriel Valley Tribune this morning — Al is one of his sources — about corruption in the Montebello PD. Can you shed any light on that.
Are you still making money from your memoir? If not, who is?
Finally you sound like you still consider yourself a Mongol. Do you? Elaborate. Do you intend to make a comeback?
I know you are in the fucking penitentiary Doc. I am sorry. I think you were over-sentenced because you did not rat. Am I coming close? Try to have a decent Sunday, anyway. I know it is hot as hell in El Paso.
WHEN I SAY THAT YOU ARE INACCURATE ABOUT WHAT YOU WRITE ABOUT ME AND THIS CASE IT IS NOT TO CRITICIZE YOU I AM SIMPLY STATING A FACT. YOU AND YOUR READERS CAN NOT POSSIBLY KNOW THE FACTS IF NEITHER I NOR THE FEDS BRIEF YOU AS TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED OR WHAT IS POSSIBLY BEING PLANNED. NOT BEING ABLE TO “CRACK” THIS NEWS STORY IS NOT ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE CRITICIZED, WE ARE DEALING WITH A POWERFUL GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT IS KEEPING EVERYTHING SECRET. THE PRESIDENT IS EVOKING ” PRESIDENTIAL PRIVILEGE” TO PROTECT THIS AGENCY’S CORRUPTION. IF YOU FOUND THAT MORSEL OF INFORMATION I SENT YOU, WHICH WAS THE BEGINNING OF A LONG LIST OF NAMES WHO WERE EXTORTED INTO HELPING THIS AGENCY INTERESTING, WELL YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT THE REAL AND COMPLETE STORY WOULD REVEAL. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT I TRULY BELIEVE, FROM SPEAKING TO ALL INVOLVED THAT THE LEADERSHIP IN THE CLUB IS ACTING IN A WAY THAT IS OBSTRUCTIVE TO ALL OUR EFFORTS TO EXPOSE THIS CORRUPTION. IF A PERSON OR GROUP DOES NOT WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH THEY SIMPLY WILL NOT ACCEPT IT AS SUCH. YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT AN OLD JAMES CAGNEY MOVIE I DON’T SIT AROUND IN A CELL WITH NOTHING TO DO, ON THE CONTRARY I AM BUSY FROM 3:00AM TO 11:00PM . SO YOU SEE I HAVE NO TIME FOR INTERVIEWS IF I BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL CIRCUMVENT THE TRUTH. ONLY BECAUSE AL HAS VOUCHED FOR YOU AM I E-MAILING YOU NOW. I DO NOT KNOW IF I WILL CONTINUE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE CALLED AN INTERVIEW. HERE IS A QUESTION FOR YOU: YOU CALLED WHAT I E-MAILED YOU LIBELOUS, YET YOU HAVE WRITTEN THAT I HAVE COOPERATED, FURTHERMORE YOU COULD HAVE OFFERED TO PRINT THE E-MAIL AND NOT USE NAMES BUT YOU DID NOT, EXPLAIN.