The New, Improved, Dialogical Saloon, Wine And Cigar Bar

July 12, 2012

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If you have been to the original Dialogical Saloon you know what to do.  The commodification  of bikers, Laffing Devils, RICO, Cop Clubs, RUBs, one percenter diamonds, Sons Of Anarchy, old ladies, funny noises women make during the physical act of love, farm animals, alphabet soup police, which is the very best motorcycle club of all, is Harley doomed, noise pollution, helmet laws, heavy metal versus hound dog country?  What about The Moonshine Bandits? You tell me what the news is.

If you are new here, keep lurking. You might learn something.

If you are lost, go here.

Your pal,


4,885 Responses to “The New, Improved, Dialogical Saloon, Wine And Cigar Bar”

  1. Shovelhead Says:

    I know….there’s much going on right now. More important shit than my complaints, but what the fuck!! Riding my bike into work this morning it was only 39 degrees out. It’s just too soon!!

  2. rollinnorth Says:

    Way too soon, Shovelhead.

    Oakland in the news on the Big Brother front:

    “But privacy campaigners in the city were alarmed at the thought of the Oakland Police Department having access to an all-pervasive real-time surveillance network – particularly one that did not have a policy on what data would be stored and for how long.”


  3. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Gentlemen, rather than anyone perceiving the discussion as disrespectful to a dead man. It is Repectfully asked that the shit talking and stiring be done here if it’s going to go down instead of on Jeff’s thread.

    Respect is earned not ever demanded or expected without reasonable merit.

    Viva Los Vagos

  4. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    RLG, Now that’s some funny shit. We need some of that aggressiveness in the Senate and House.

    Thanks for the chuckle.

    Viva Los Vagos

  5. Base Says:

    The wheels slowed some so, I actually sat down and watched a movie. Heard about this flick a couple years ago and was not disappointed.

    Eye on your 6


  6. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Base, Looks like it might be a decent flick I’m gonna check it out.

    Enjoy the pre Monday Sir.

    Viva Los Vagos

  7. WheresMyBoots Says:

    Bought that flick online from those young ‘Choppertown’ guys when it first came out -thoroughly enjoyed it. Fine bike that main guy has.
    All the best to you and yours.

    Respects, and Ride Free,

  8. Base Says:

    AVAGOVFFV & WheresMyBoots

    I liked it, the movie was pretty much written, directed & the main character played by Jason Momoa. He is most notable for his role in Game of Thrones as Drago.

    He pulled together some talented people, actors and the local population of the Navajo tribe, combined with great cinema photography, notable individualized character’s, sound track and it worked.

    Eye on your Six’s

  9. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Cool, I ordered it from Amazon I’ll check it out this weekend.

    Viva Los Vagos

  10. Mike 184 Says:

    That looks cool, I am gonna try and get my hands on it. Maybe bring it to the house and see if I can get everyone to watch a movie.

    One of my favorites was Hellride. I was cheezy in a way, but felt like it was done for bikers, and they really didn’t care if anyone else liked it or not. Loved the whole cast in that movie.

  11. Johnny Rotten Says:

    Also worthy of viewing…

    The loveless

    Running cool

    Roadside prophets



  12. Phuquehed Says:

    Don’t forget to watch ‘Dear God No!’ too…stoned…because it’s the funniest flick one will ever see as the blood and guts and acting will make you laugh, but if one watches it straight you’ll probably just want to throw the nearest real heavy object through the teevee screen to try and kill it.

  13. Phuquehed Says:

    Oh yeah…if you own a Yahoo e-mail account, you might want to delete it.

    Verizon is also going to kiss the NSA’s dick and give away anything they ask for from them and since Verizon is buying up Yahoo…

  14. Dasein Says:

    I occasionally watch Beavis & Butthead reruns on youtube. Some I’m embarrassed even to be seeing in the privacy of my home. Others are borderline Shakespearean, but generally, it’s funny in a way previously unknown to mankind. Years ago I went to see the Big Screen of “Beavis and Butthead Do America”, in my town, partly to discover just who “my people” actually were. Place was packed with quite the random assortment of humanity, but all possessing this singular low brow/high brow sense of humor. Despite our shared artistic appreciations, this was such a disparate group I couldn’t imagine any of us ever meeting in the same room if not for this film, unless at perhaps the convenience store of some gas station. It wasn’t particularly depressing, but hardly inspiring. I came away thinking this might be something best experienced alone, or with a few similarly demented friends.

  15. stroker Says:

    “CORNHOLEIO” (heh-heh….heh-heh)

  16. Phuquehed Says:

    Just a reminder to those who are a little less computer literate to help yourselves with more info and addons to assist in keeping under the radar as much as possible…

    Five EFF Tools to Help You Protect Yourself Online

    (I personally use Privacy Badger, https everywhere, uBlock Origin and a VPN and also go deep into the ‘about:config’ of each of my browsers to make them do things *my* way if those options aren’t in the ‘preferences’ part of setting up the browser)

  17. Phuquehed Says:

    Beavis and Butthead are cool! Funny shit there. I also dig The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers (and Fat Freddy’s Cat!), used to also bust a gut laughing watching Ren and Stimpy…the first year or two before the artist was told to tone things down some). ‘Course nowadays I still also dig South Park.

  18. Cap'n Bill Says:

    Another chapter of the previously mentioned tragedy. This is some truly bizarre shit…


  19. Paladin Says:

    Always was a big fan of Angry Beavers.


  20. Paladin Says:

    The following is a textbook example of when Jury nullification should be used.


  21. Phuquehed Says:

    @Paladin – Sounds like the cunt judge is one of those though who doesn’t want We the Peons to know about jury nullification.

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  22. RLG Says:

    “SOA rub punked for wearing fake cut”

    No bottom rocker, seems like an over reaction to me. Cameraman says they are in Idaho.

  23. Drifter Says:

    Article from;

    “Prosecutorial Misconduct is Now a Felony in California

    Misbehaving prosecutors in California can now face up to three years in prison for withholding evidence. Hey, it’s a start.

    C.J. Ciaramella|Oct. 6, 2016 8:05 am

    Along with signing a major asset forfeiture reform bill last week, California Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill into law making it a felony for prosecutors to intentionally withhold evidence.

    Under the new law, prosecutors who alter or intentionally withhold evidence from defense counsels can face up to three years in prison. Previously, prosecutorial misconduct in California was only a misdemeanor. Courts were statutorily required to report misconduct to the state bar association, but advocates of the bill say the laws were rarely enforced.

    “When a prosecutor intentionally withholds exculpatory evidence, an unknowing and innocent defendant can be convicted, sentenced, and incarcerated for a long time,” California Attorneys for Criminal Justice, a group of criminal defense lawyers that supported the bill, told The Los Angeles Times. “These bad-acting prosecutors rarely, if ever, face any actually consequences for their actions.”

    A 2010 study by the Veritas Initiative from the Santa Clara School of Law reviewing 10 years of prosecutorial misconduct in California found that “courts fail to report prosecutorial misconduct (despite having a statutory obligation to do so), prosecutors deny that it occurred, and the California State Bar almost never disciplines it.”

    The California District Attorneys Association orginally opposed the bill, calling it “an outrageous attempt to criminalize prosecutors for conduct that falls well short of criminal,” but later rescinded its opposition after amendments were added to narrow potential prosecutions to exclude unintentional errors.

    As The Los Angeles Times reported, the bill also had some other notable support:

    Among the bill’s advocates was Obie Anthony, 42, who served 17 years behind bars after being convicted in 1995 of a murder outside a South Los Angeles brothel. He was exonerated in 2011 after it was revealed that a key prosecution witness, a pimp, had received leniency in exchange for his testimony—a deal prosecutors had not disclosed.

    “I’m glad the governor decided to put his foot down,” said Anthony who told his story to California lawmakers as they weighed whether to support the bill.

    “I went to talk to them about how those bad-acting prosecutors took 17 years of my life,” said Anthony, who now lives in Missouri and runs a nonprofit organization, Exonerated Nation, for the wrongfully convicted.

    As I reported back in August as the bill was winding its way through the state senate, the legislation was introduced amid a wave of embarrassing scandals that led in one instance to the entire Orange County District Attorney’s Office being removed from a high-profile murder case:

    A judge eventually removed the entire OCDA from the Dekraai case—the worst mass shooting in county history—finding that two sheriff’s deputies had either lied or intentionally withheld evidence. The disclosures have also led to sentences being overturned or vacated, or charges being dropped, in nearly a dozen other cases so far, including at least six murders and attempted murders.

    Last month, the California Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals found ‘substantial evidence’ that the OCDA retaliated against the judge in the Dekraai case when it had him repeatedly removed from other cases—a tactic known as “papering” a judge.

    That same judge presided over a hearing Monday to decide whether the OCDA should be removed another murder trial for allegedly using a doctored California Highway Patrol report to bolster its case.

    (Also on Monday, a Santa Ana-based defense attorney filed a $10 million lawsuit against Orange County, claiming he was assaulted by an OCDA investigator in a courthouse last March after he successfully argued for a retrial for his client due to prosecutorial misconduct.)

    Interestingly, the Orange County District Attorney supported the bill, although he said it should apply equally to defense attorneys as well.

    Correction: An earlier version of this article incorrectly stated that the California District Attorneys Association opposed the bill. The organization dropped its opposition to the bill after amendments were added addressing its concerns, and it was neutral on the final version of the legislation.”

  24. The Kraut Says:

    The cook at the diner stuck his dick in the dishwasher, so they fired him.

    The dishwasher stopped working….so they fired her too.

    Respect to those who warrant respect

    The Kraut

  25. Cap'n Bill Says:

    This dirtbag apparently has a bad driving record as long as your arm…

    I work at the same place as the late Bruce Kingdon…RIDE IN PEACE…

  26. Dasein Says:

    Some here might really enjoy this, I do. It’s “Northern California’s original free motorcycling publication. Since 1984”, distributed here and there in the SF Bay Area, or avail by subscription. Great writers, stories, and more about pure motorcycle matters than many here probably imagine they could ever read about in one place.

  27. Paladin Says:

    @ The Kraut,



  28. Paladin Says:

    Cap’n Bill,

    Lost a member of the Clan a couple years back, to an asshole just like the one in your posted link. Our Brother was out walking his dog when they were both run over and killed.

    Long May You Ride,


  29. Phuquehed Says:

    One more place to help you help yourself to keep your privacy while online…

    The tips/tricks for ‘Firefox’ will also work on other Mozilla and Mozilla-like browsers (Seamonkey, PaleMoon,, etc). Other than that, I can’t help Windows users as I haven’t had that shitware joke of an operating system on any of my computers since 2000.

  30. T Hell Says:


    I was out of town, out of state, running down the freeway outside of Minneapolis couple days back when I come up behind an obvious unmarked Dodge Charger, I slowed to a few miles per over the limit as I got closer I saw it had Nebraska plates. I relaxed a bit and started to roll back on the grip, as I came along side I saw that the computer was on in camera mode and focused on the plate of the guy in front of him. I thought to myself that doesn’t quite make sense so I throttled back and pulled back in line. It didn’t take long before we got passed by a pickup doing 20 plus over, cue the lights and siren. Fucking Minnesota state troopers running unmarks with fake Nebraska plates. Target on your back…head on a swivel, respects…..

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