Your Phone Is Tapped

July 10, 2012

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Privacy is dead in the new and improved America. The New York Times thinks this is news.

A reporter named Eric Lichtblau ran a feature in the premier national newspaper Sunday that led with the recently disclosed fact that American police made “a startling 1.3 million demands for subscriber information last year…seeking text messages, caller locations and other information in the course of investigations.” You can read Lichtblau’s report here.

The statistics about cell phone surveillance in the Times piece were gathered by Representative Edward J. Markey, a traditional Democrat from Massachusetts who is one of the co-chairmen of the Bipartisan Congressional Privacy Caucus. Markey told the Times he was shocked by what he learned. “I never expected it (the extent of the surveillance) to be this massive,” he said.

Markey also told the Times that he was alarmed about the possibility that “digital dragnets” might compromise the privacy of Americans. “There’s a real danger we’ve already crossed the line,” Markey said.



For cell phones only, AT&T gets 700 requests a day for phone data from American police. Two-hundred-thirty of those requests are “exigent” and do not require the snooping policeman to get either a court order or a subpoena. Sprint gets 1,500 police requests for data each day. Cricket, a wireless carrier most people have never heard of got “42,500 law enforcement requests last year.”

Markey asked for the cell phone data of nine American companies: AT&T, C Spire, Cricket Communications, MetroPCS, Sprint, T-Mobile, TracFone, U.S. Cellular and Verizon. The data requested included text messages and locations. The number of phones affected is probably much greater than 1.3 million for two reasons. First the police demands are so frequent and routine that cell phone companies can not adequately account for all the requests they get. Additionally, each request may intrude on many callers as when police request all the information relayed through a cell phone tower.

The Times reported: “As cell surveillance increased, warrants for wiretapping by federal and local officials – eavesdropping on conversations – declined 14 percent last year to 2,732, according to a recent report from the Administrative Office of the United States Courts…. The diverging numbers suggest that law enforcement officials are shifting away from wiretaps in favor of other forms of cell tracking that are generally less legally burdensome, less time consuming and less costly.”

Lichtblau also mentions what he describes as a “muddled” Supreme Court ruling last year that forbid police to attach GPS locators to cars and monitor them without a court order. However, in most cases police do not need a warrant to monitor the GPS locator in a cell phone. The only way to turn those monitors off is to turn the phone off.

The Times story closes with a warning that police departments may be “keeping those records indefinitely in internal databases.”

Again, duh-uh.

Not Just Cell Phones

This was the second report by Lichtblau for the Times on the issue of cell phone surveillance. The Markey request for cell carrier records was prompted by a Times report last year. You can read that report, titled “Police Are Using Phone Tracking as a Routine Tool” here.

The issue of police spying on citizens using social media, emails and even Predator spy drones has promulgated dozens of major stories so far this year. David Kravets of Wired Magazine has been following the issue of electronic surveillance for more than a year. Earlier this month Kravets reported on demands by prosecutors and police for data on twitter users.

Last February, before the Times joined the hunt, Kravets reported on a “covert internet and telephone surveillance method known as pen register and trap-and-trace capturing.” The two techniques are used to capture “non-content information of outbound telephone and internet communications, such as phone numbers dialed, and the sender and recipient” and often the subject line for private emails. By law the Department of Justice is required to inform Congress about the number and nature of these requests but has apparently not done so since 1999.

The reports to Congress are mandated by the 25-year-old Electronic Communications Privacy Act. Kravits describes that as a, “…law (that) had once protected Americans’ electronic communications from the government’s prying eyes, but it has become so woefully outdated that it now grants the authorities nearly carte blanche powers to obtain Americans’ e-mail stored in the cloud, such as in Gmail or Hotmail – without a court warrant.” The February article states this surveillance is commonly carried out by the “Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Drug Enforcement Agency, the Marshals Service and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.”

Most of this information is collected as part of the International War on Terror and is authorized by the Patriot Act. The act, extended by Congress in 2011, allows wiretaps without identifying a target or the method of communication to be tapped, allows any person to be monitored for any reason and allows secret warrants for business records of any kind.

Fusion Centers And War Rooms

The larger and more important issue that both Wired and the Times miss is why this information is collected, what happens to it after it has been archived and why.

Of those three issues the easiest to explain is the last – why. The information is collected and archived because any distinction that once existed between police forces and between the military and civilian police is already irrevocably blurred. Police already talk about themselves as if they were soldiers in a war. And, the war on terror continues because victory has been defined in ludicrous terms – such as bringing feminist values to Afghanistan and annihilating every, last terrorist. Since that job is impossible both federal and local police and prosecutors have participated in this great campaign by targeting “transnational terrorists” including street gangs, motorcycle clubs, right wing militias, fundamentalist Mormons, the Tea Party and the Occupy Movement.

Secondly all of this personal, private information collected by police departments, bureaus and agencies is permanently stored in both fusion centers and war rooms.

Fusion Centers are joint enterprises of the Department of Justice which includes the FBI, the DEA, the Marshalls and the ATF, and the largest federal police department, the Department of Homeland Security. The centers began to appear in 2003 and they have become omniscient. Nevada for example, the seventh largest but only the 35th most populous state, has three fusion centers.

War rooms are both intelligence repositories and traffic control centers for federally defined High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas. There are now so many domestic spies that a key function of War Rooms is to keep track off all these informants, prevent them from conflicting (or shooting) each other, and feed their Reports of Investigation into the great Amazon of domestic intelligence. There is no longer a meaningful distinction between information collected by small town cops and the Department of Justice. It all ends up in the same, top-secret, computer network.

The point of these centers is to collect every credit card transaction, the time and location of every license plate on every major road, every legally and illegally tapped telephone conversation, text message and email, every public record, every secret police report, every social network comment, every blog post and much more into enormous databases that are constantly mined for hidden patterns. This data mining is a variation on the ancient Hebrew mystical art of Gematria – a kind of fortune telling.

These war rooms and fusion centers represent a radical departure from the values and ideas of men like Louis Brandeis who once wrote: “The makers of our Constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness. They recognized the significance of man’s spiritual nature, of his feelings and of his intellect. They knew that only a part of the pain, pleasure and satisfactions of life are to be found in material things. They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the government, the right to be let alone – the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men.”

Data collection and mining, war rooms and fusion centers exist because the last two administrations and the last four Congresses have decided that the security of the United States can no longer depend on a free and informed citizenry. America’s very survival now depends on domestic spies and fortune tellers. And these fusion center data sets are now so huge that the fortune tellers, or analysts, who mine them usually find exactly what they want to find.


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55 Responses to “Your Phone Is Tapped”

  1. Tooj Says:

    I figured I’d find the original notice:–abc-news.html

    What the article does NOT say that would be of interest is: How many of those devices were placed with a valid warrant to do so?

    The world may never know…

  2. Tooj Says:

    Here’s a short read worth making:

    According to news of late from here, cops have been planting GPS devices on vehicles without a warrant as well, until the Supreme Court told them it was wrong. Yeh, rii-iiight.

    Yes, we love our cell and “smart” phones.

  3. troyez Says:

    An interesting thing happened to me yesterday. I dialed the number of an organization I support (Heritage Foundation) and heard only silence, then someone clearing his throat, I said “hello,” and he said “who is this?! I said “I’m trying to get Heritage,” he laughed and hung up. I looked at my phone, looked at the number on the computer screen and checked to see if it was correct, it was. Someone was either listening to me or to them. Funny thing that, my unit in the Army had the capacity to listen to anything anyone said (electronically and more), it seems the police now have that capacity too.

    Here’s a list of systems we used to “collect intelligence.” This page is NOT CLASSIFIED, in case any LEOs out there think anyone is breaking the law:

    We were protecting the nation’s security when we took our oaths and collected info (on non-domestic individuals by the way), what are the police doing?

  4. Sohn Says:

    All women exact some price! So, I like the ones that you pay too.

  5. swampy Says:

    Grumbler, Just wanted you to know that I voted on the ACLU link, concerning the GPS Act, that you provided. I recieved 3 e-mails(the standered shit, of course) from the offices of Sen. David Vitter, Sen. Mary Landrieu(Hilliary Clinton’s ass-kissing buddy) and Congressman Rodney Alexander. All three stating they would remember my concerns(yeah, right). Two rotten bastards and one very disrespectful of veterans Cunt. Hey, at least me and Sen. Vitter have one thing in common; we both like women that you pay! Thank you.

    With the highest regards and respect,

  6. BadMagic Says:


    What you mention is true, however, I think the advantage is using their own tools against them. Kind of like some martial arts. Use the aggressive tactics of the attacker against them. I know what is on that device. If it gets changed or lost, it exposes the back door. To be able to eliminate their credibility as a whole (prove the back door), is worth my losing a single case to help all the others who may now have their cases overturned. I would think the same would be true on their side. Say the Feds ~do~ have a back door. I doubt they would tell the cops to help them in once case against me when it would hurt as a whole more.


    Yep, I saw the same thing. I won’t use Facebook. Never have. I think it should be made known to the masses that Facebook is NARC, SNITCH, TATTLE TALE, BIG BROTHER, NOT LOYAL, etc. I avoid all businesses that snitch on customers. Pizza delivery calling cops for shit, etc. Fuck that!


  7. Tooj Says:

    I currently work with converting web applications to the Apple iOS operating system. Apple provides geolocation routines for ANY application developer that wishes to use them. They very neatly calculate the location of the wireless device connecting to the application. Can even track movement and place it in near real time to a map.

    Now if a plain ole geek like me can do this at home or work, imagine what is going on with some serious resources at hand. Just be careful as you enjoy your new toys and don’t get too carried away with “the latest fad” as there is always another reason they have been produced.

  8. Tooj Says:

    ALL software is subject to being ‘acquired’ by the Fed under a number of rationales but the big umbrella is ‘national security’. The software that was written for GPs tracking was acquired by the Fed.

    Don’t know if anyone still remembers the fellow that had a Doctorate thesis that consisted of using publically acquired information on the web to construct a map of the power grid in America. This was shut down by the Gov for National Security.

    You come up with a product that could eliminate oil dependence? Be prepared to have that acquired. Eliminate food shortages? Gone. Some gerbils want to continue running on this particular wheel because they are very good at it.

  9. Phuquehed Says:

    @BadMagic – That device you put a link to is good *if* the software makers can be trusted to have *not* put a backdoor into it that allows the law to sneak in when it simply asks them (the software makers) for the backdoor code. (yeah, I can be a turd in the punch bowl at times, heh)

    Closed-source software can *NEVER* be trusted. Unfortunately it’s a two-way street – someone comes up with a damn good app and wants to make an honest buck on it, but then another person comes up with a different damn good app and wants to make a buck on it but it isn’t honest because they made it for LE/government which can’t be trusted – thus it makes the use of closed-source suspect and app-maker #1 doesn’t get anywhere near the money or recognition he deserves all because of scum like app-maker #2.

    Open-source software is the only solution as it can be opened and looked at and changed by *anyone* (depending on the license of course). Someone can look at the code and say ‘Hey, this crap is made to phone home/log key strokes/etc/etc…!’ and can then tell the whole world and no one will use it and it goes into the trash bin of the universe.

    There’s no super-simple solution, but I personally won’t use closed-source software unless I absolutely need it and/or there’s no alternative open-source software.

  10. Vikingtrotter Says:

    Thats not all, Facebook is running a program that reads ALL chats in realtime for key words that is deems as criminal and reports to local and or local Federal police within 24hrs. The article is on Drudge and

  11. Skully Says:

    Another interesting site for those who want to listen You can listen to the cops. Click on live audio and go from there It will take time to find their Tactical channels It can be quite entertaining

  12. BadMagic Says:


    2 things. First, I agree that everyone should put some sort of password protection on their phone. The more they have to go through to harass you, the better.

    2nd, That lapel recorder I linked to IS encrypted. It cannot be reviewed, wiped, or altered without THE computer that it is bound to. So, aside from destroying the device itself, since it is their tech, I would think it would be harder to hack into than a cell phone (which can easily be rooted, etc.)

    And destroying possible evidence can be construed as an act of a guilty person.


  13. Matt the lawyer Says:

    ACLU has an APP for that!

  14. Ol'LadyRider Says:

    Someone posted this link on another thread (and today the server is down for maintenance), but it seems germane to this conversation as well. For those who haven’t read it, basically University of Washington law reviewers seem to think that audio/video recording of law enforcement officers during the course of their duties is protected not only in public, but also as a matter of due process in private encounters. There is no precedent yet set, but it has already been established that citizens can record law enforcement officers, in public places, without their consent. It goes without saying (but I will say it anyway) that the majority of citizens would capture such recordings with cellphones/smartphones.

    Back in early 2011, the California Supreme Court decided definitively in the case of People vs Diaz that a person’s cell phone can be searched through and through incident to a custodial arrest, extending the parameters of warrantless search subsequent to arrest. Please keep in mind that in CA – can’t speak for anywhere else – a law enforcement officer CAN NOT search your cell phone during a traffic stop or if cited for a violation – without your consent. Likewise, if your phone is password-protected, law enforcement can not compel you to provide the unlock code under any circumstances, including custodial arrest, and would have to submit for and be granted a warrant or other Court order to search your phone… Which would then ne difficult to obtain given the probable cause requirements for warrants and the fact that the search would no longer be “incident to arrest.”

    That said, lapel recorders would likely also be lumped into the category of cellular phones, I.e. seizeable incident to arrest. And unfortunately, one would have no control over the recordings once the device was seized. However (back to the original link), the UoW law reviewers posited with some certainty that recording encounters with law enforcement during the normal course of their duties in Constitutionally protected and even advisable with regard to citizen rights to due process. Recording with a password protected cellular phone appears to be preferable, given other information here.

    Here is the link ( which won’t work again until tomorrow)…. Thoughts?

  15. Rashomon Says:

    @Glenn – I’ve seen people use these but the only way you’d know if they didn’t work was when you got caught –

  16. Glenn S. Says:

    That lead lined pouch sounds like the best all-around solution. Anybody know where I can get one?

  17. chevyweight Says:

    Also if you take a picture with your cell phone, that picture has your “exif data” attached to it which includes phone model, date and time pic was taken and if enabled the gps location of the pic (with google maps, you can get a 360 view of the location) . Do a search for “exif data viewer” and you can view the exif data for any picture taken with a cell phone that you find online. If you put a picture up online you must wipe the exif data or better yet use the snipping tool and take a screen shot of the picture on your computer then save that as a jpeg file, then upload the jpeg file.

  18. Matt the lawyer Says:

    “Carnivore was a system implemented by the Federal Bureau of Investigation that was designed to monitor email and electronic communications. It used a customizable packet sniffer that can monitor all of a target user’s Internet traffic. Carnivore was implemented in October 1997. By 2005 it had been replaced with improved commercial software such as NarusInsight.”
    (citation available at below link)

    “A single NarusInsight machine can monitor traffic equal to the maximum capacity (10 Gbit/s) of around 39,000 DSL lines or 195,000 telephone modems. But, in practical terms, since individual internet connections are not continually filled to capacity, the 10 Gbit/s capacity of one NarusInsight installation enables it to monitor the combined traffic of several million broadband users.

    It can also perform semantic analysis of the same traffic as it is happening, in other words analyze the content, meaning, structure and significance of traffic in real time. The exact use of this data is not fully documented, as the public is not authorized to see what types of activities and ideas are being monitored”

    Not hard to guess what types of activities are monitored, is it now?

  19. swampy Says:

    JP, it wouldn’t be the first time people have been denied the right to leave the U.S.

  20. Matt the lawyer Says:

    “Sometimes even paranoids have real enemies.”

  21. Dan Says:

    BadMagic, there was an episode of a UK TV mini-series called Black Mirror recently dealing with the concept of recording your whole life and the possible consequences. In fact I think a lot of people on here might enjoy the series. The other episodes are about fucking a pig, and reality TV. Wikipedia link (contains spoilers):

    Download links (assuming you have bittorrent):

    Sorry if I’m a little off-topic.

  22. RVN69 Says:

    I can’t make up my mind which is worse, the fact the the pigs are doing this, or the fact that none of us are surprised about it.

    I think this just shows how low our expectations of “freedom” and “privacy” are in present day Amerika.


    “I am not an angel, nor am I the devil, I am the bastard stepchild of both.”

  23. BadMagic Says:

    FYI – Listening devices are place IN THE BATTERY ITSELF. Think about it. It is much easier for the ABC gang to bug every kind of battery available for a phone than to try to bug the phone itself. It is also permanently attached to the power source that way. There is a false sense of security when you pull the battery out. All an agent has to have is 1 minute access to you phone to swap the battery out. How many times have you picked up your phone after not being by it and it was dead? Wouldn’t think much of it would you?

    Understand that it isn’t what you do or say. It is what you do or say can be made to look like.

    I personally assume that everything I say and do is being recorded.

    I am suspect of anyone who thinks, says, or otherwise shows a sense of security if enough ‘precautions’ are taken.

    At this point, the only thing I think can really be effective is our own recording of the entire context of our lives so when the false charges are laid, the entire context of the farce can be revealed.

    I believe in the near future, we will all have personal recording devices that only we have access to.

    Right now you can buy the standard cop issue lapel recorder that even they wouldn’t be able to access without your permission.


  24. JIM666 Says:

    Junior can your bond be revoked for doing that ? or just the few days for contempt ? just wondering,

  25. Junior Says:

    We wont get an official “win” thats for sure, but I can perpetuate arraignment almost indefinitely and they usually just walk away and head to “greener pasture” where they have an endless supply of folks willing to assist in their own prosecution.

    I do get strange looks from black robed individuals, once, one just grinned from ear to ear the entire time, I think he was in shock that I was actually challenging jurisdiction. Another was so pissed & embarrased that his face just glowed red, he is the one that just slammed his gabel and said “court adjourned” and walked out. It’s a lot of fun, until you get locked up for 3 days for “disorderly”. – Junior

  26. JP Says:

    All these new laws that are going into effect for the so called safety of america is sickening. The sheep eat this shit up, it will be too late when they realize they were duped. Everyday its something crazier than before and nothing is in benefit of the working class. Today I read an artical regarding people with tattoos that might be gang related being denied access or citizenship in this country, without any criminal record. Whats next, will we be denied the ability to leave the country?

  27. jimmy snooka Says:

    I was recently given this leather pouch for your cell phone from a bro from another charter. When it’s in the pouch your phone will not transmit or receive ANYTHING! it has some sort of thin lead liner of sorts that blocks everything. I’ve tested everything cause it was tough to beleive at first and works like a charm. if your sitting around talking with bros or out on the prowl, throw it in. I’ll find out where he got them all from. Really cheap and simple on the spot solution. I’ll repost once I find out.

  28. blindmule Says:

    Rebel.. Much respect to your outstanding blog and your book outbad was awesome, The aging rebel touched my soul as you have captured the essence of riding.
    One of the ways i combat big brother watching over my shoulder is use the techniques that Frank M. Ahearn The Digital Hit Man His Weapons for Combating the Digital World uses. You just overwhelm your account with so much crap that there is no way in hell that the feds can make any sense of it. It scares me how much of our constitutional rights we have lost. Again thanks for your outstanding website and your diligence to my freedom

  29. swampy Says:

    I’ve known about the “pull the battery” thing for a very long time. I first heard about cell phones transmitting audio, even while turned off, a couple of years ago. When I go to a party/event, etc., I pull the battery; I only turn the phone on when I need to use it(away from anyone else). I have a Blackberry 9800 Torch model – I DON’T text. However, I’ve had it “pocket dial” on me a couple of times. Once while I was cracking some scrap pecans for my chickens, a couple of days later I ran into a guy who said: “Cracked some pecans for your chickens, did ya?” I replied, “Oh yeah, how would you know?” His answer was, “You called me, I heard everything you were doing.” I didn’t call him. That’s scarey enough right there. I only got the damn thing so I could listen to music during a couple of hospital stays during 2011. I think when my contract runs out in 7 or 8 months, I’m going back to my old MOTOROLA “Razor” – lighter and more compact.

    It seems that Olmstead v. United States(1928) did nothing to quell the abuse of the 4th Admendment (unreasonable search and seizure did not apply to wiretaps in this case). It seems the agents did not “trespass”, they placed the equipment near the houses of the defendents. Yeah, right. Roy Olmstead spent 4 yrs. in prison before President FDR granted him a full presidential pardon, restoring his constitutional rights. Of course we know all too well what regards that little dress wearing, cock sucking J. Edgar Hoover would have for the Constitution.

  30. Hose-a 1% Says:

    Prison labor sure don’t pay too well as I recall!
    Hose-a 1% er Pagan’s M.C. retired F.T.F.

  31. Rebel Says:

    Dear Austin,

    Prison labor. The police state economy will be based on prison labor. As a nation, we are in the process of creating a slave economy.


  32. Austin Says:

    PS @ JED LOL – so true!

  33. Austin Says:

    Once enough of the regular working people are locked up, there will be no tax revenue to pay for all the agencies. Rich people & corporations will not pay any more taxes, so perhaps this will be self limiting.

    I was thinking this when I caught a news flash just now that City of San Berdoo is going bankrupt & City of Scranton PA in putting their employees on minimum wage to balance the budget.

    This thing is making ME go Hmmmmmm….. some cops might learn they are working people too.

    Re: the electronics, just because it is on your facebook doesn’t mean its true… Remember how that the quest for information works both ways. Might make a good bait station for the right …uh… varmint.

  34. Rebel Says:

    Dear Junior,

    You know Junior, when they finally come after me with something that might stick I want you to be my lawyer. We ain’t gonna win but I still want to see the look on the judge’s face.


  35. Snow Says:

    What’s the old saying? “I’m only paranoid if it ain’t true”, well it’s fucking true enough now isn’t it… America, home of the brave and once free….

  36. Junior Says:

    I said it before: If you see a drone hovering overhead how do you know that it isnt armed & there to kill you? Armed drones are now common. If I see a drone I fear for my life. When I fear for my life I eliminate the threat.

    If you destroy a drone bcause you genuinely feared for your life, there isnt a court in the land that can convict you. -Junior

  37. Tooj Says:

    PGP is okay. For those of you needing to transmit documents and such I would suggest looking up “steganography” as there are many interesting approaches and layers to ensuring your privacy.

  38. Rashomon Says:

    I remember reading 1984 way back when and seriously doubting I’d live long enough to see it play out but I did and now rather than the government stealing our information (which they do anyhow) people who use farcebook and that sort of thing sign up to give it away freely. It’s just a matter of time until some sort of terrorist emergency gives the government rights to mine all that data and do with it what they will.

    Between cell phones and the internet, we’re screwed. Time to head back up in the woods I guess.

  39. Glenn S. Says:

    This (the New York Times story) is just like the outrage behind the “show me your papers” laws aimed at illegal immigrants. Shit, the cops have been stopping me and demanding “my papers” my whole life. One cop even told me that he pulled me over because “with that long hair and those tattooes, you must be doing something.” But now that they’re doing it to people based on ethnicity, all of a sudden it must be stopped, but only stopped when its due to ethnicity. Its still okay, apparently, to demand papers of long haired tattooed people. And I have little doubt that the phone taps “must be stopped” if the targets can be characterized as undesirable elements.

  40. JED Says:

    Thats’s the cops: always one step ahead of the law!

  41. DesertH-D Says:

    A quick FYI which hopefully will sink in to those that didn’t get it from prior comments: MOST phones will still transmit GPS AND AUDIO, even when turned off. IF YOU WANT TO BE PRIVATE, PULL THE BATTERY.

    Now then… Try THAT with an iPhone. (And some similar devices.)

    Just food for thought when you consider your next electronic toy.

  42. Caretaker Says:

    I have a very simple solution for the phone issue,though it’s limited fo smart phones. Rebel please share my email with any who ask. I won’t post it public.


  43. things that make you go hmm Says:

    what did i say in mt last post my cell phone has made a hshshshhs sound pull out the battery. my uncle an old school biker club not mentioned when i was a kid would say to compadres of his these walls have ears no wonder the music was so load in the garage when him and his buddies were disssambling and resembling multiple scooters on egg krates, he would say hay sport grab us some beers. fond memories good old tujunga ca in the 1980 lots of acdc and black sabbath , and easy rider magazines mad me love pretty women with a dash of white trash, good times and part of who i am today, a defensive ,honorable,respectfull motorcycle enthusiast and as you can tell i dont use spell dont let these fucks install there new smart meters i did not let them put them in and neither would my 2 guard dogs funny shit, my dogs dont like the dirty energy that comes from the smart meater, go on you tube and put up smart meter read some people comments. another note on fight nite i had a bunch of friends and there old ladies overfor ashin dig so were sitting out back burning some doobes away from the kids and my phone makes this hsssss sound i pulled out the battery i said hmmmmm who knew about this bbq fight nite yep somebody did well that night the battery stayed out, real talk man believe me.

  44. things that make you go hmm Says:

    what did i say in my last post my cell phone has made a hshshshhs sound pull out the battery. my uncle an old school biker, club not mentioned when i was a kid would say to compadres of his these walls have ears no wonder the music was so load in the garage when him and his buddies were disssambling and resembling multiple scooters on egg krates, he would say hay sport grab us some beers. fond memories good old tujunga ca in the 1980 lots of acdc and black sabbath , and easy rider magazines mad me love pretty women with a dash of white trash, good times and part of who i am today, a defensive ,honorable,respectfull motorcycle enthusiast and as you can tell i dont use spell dont let these fucks install there new smart meters i did not let them put them in and neither would my 2 guard dogs funny shit, my dogs dont like the dirty energy that comes from the smart meater, go on you tube and put up smart meter read some peoples comments. another note on fight nite i had a bunch of friends and there old ladies over for a shin dig so were sitting out back burning some doobes away from the kids and my phone makes this hsssss sound i pulled out the battery i said hmmmmm who knew about this bbq fight nite yep somebody did well that night the battery stayed out, real talk man believe me.

  45. BigV Says:

    It is considered “o.k.” by the Highest Court in the land for cops to go through each and every text message and phone call on our cell phones during a traffic stop. We have no privacy. We have no expectation of it. The 4th Amendment is dead, so far as cops and prosecutors are concerned.

  46. Phuquehed Says:

    I started using computers in ~’94. In the first year of futzing around zand just learning about it and stuff, I became aware of PGP (do a yahoo or google search for it, it’s important and relevant). By following that I also got to learn about other things I can use on my system to protect myself (Scramdisk used to be for Windows and was good because it was open-source, which was blasphemy in the M$ world. It’s now for Linux only, but I believe PGP has a similar app in it. The only problem I see with PGP nowadays is that it too is a closed-source app and even the father of PGP doesn’t like the way it’s gone).

    I now use Linux and can look into anything I want on my system and even *change* anything I want on my system, including the kernel. For Linux, I use GPG (it’s just the Linux version of PGP, meaning it’s open-source). If you need to send important e-mails, *encrypt* it! If you use Windows, pay for PGP (if a free version isn’t available) if you want to have secure e-mails and if you need to send enough of them to make it worth spending the money on.

    Encrypt and make a hidden partition on your hard drive! Put anything you think could be incriminating to you on it…nowadays, if you’re a ‘patriot’, you’re on the ‘list’ so anything can be considered ‘incriminating’ unfortunately. Make a password that only *you* will ever know or think up and that you’ll never forget and don’t make it a one-word password!! Make it a whole sentence if you can, with even numbers or whatever in it!!

    Last but not least, if you fear the government may try to get shit from your computer – e-mails, pictures, etc – that they nor anyone else have a damned right to, shoot a fucking hole in the hard drive. Seriously. Keep a pistol nearby if you’re worried enough so that if the dick-holes of the alphabet soup fucktards decide to pay you a visit, shoot the hard drive and they’re shit out of luck.

    Not a lot I know about to ‘fix’ the cellphone problem, other than do as I do and get by with a Tracfone and use it as little as possible.

    Again, if you’re worried about your e-mail being read or used against you, encryption is the only way to go. Get PGP if you use Windows (ugh!), or get GPG of you use Linux, learn how to use it (it’s really quite simple…hell *I* learned how to use it and I honestly am not the brightest candle on the chandelier!). This is one great way to tell the government shit=stains they can fuck off and die, because unless they figure out your secret passphrase, they’ll never read any of your encrypted e-mails.

    Of course doing the stuff mentioned above will make those same asshat government alphabet soup fucktards look at you as even more of a ‘home-grown terrorist’, but I say fuck ’em! They can suck the shit from a dead elephants ass for all I care.

  47. RK Says:

    We were passed some of these things at the last COC meeting in my area. That explains the black helicopters… The shit just keeps getting deeper as the days go by.

    Thanks Rebel for bringing this report to light.


  48. Hose-a 1% Says:

    I have assumed for the last 40 years that phones were tapped.Now with cell phones it is much worse.Like the old saying even a fish wouldn’t get caught if he kept his mouth shut.Simple solution to part of the problem.The other problem getting these nazi bastards out of our lives,that isn’t so simple.Taking the battery out of the cell phone for awhile while doing private matters helps some.I’m not parinoid I just don’t trust anyone especially the alphabet gang.
    Hose-a 1%er Pagan’s M.C. retired F.T.F. and what ever else you got

  49. jlc13 Says:

    Great site Rebel.Out Bad should be a must read for anyone involved in this way of life today. Thanks for the info you bring here.

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