Special Memory Delay

May 30, 2012

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The slow motion case that began with a brief and nasty brawl at the Special Memory Wedding Chapel in Las Vegas on December 20, 2008 slowed down even more last Friday.

The case has gone on for so long that the current Clark County District Attorney, Steve Wolfson, was a defense attorney when it began. He worked for a firm that represents some of the defendants and their attorneys are concerned he may have improper knowledge about their plans to contest the charges against their clients.

Wolfson has knowledge of the defenses in at least 80 ongoing cases in Las Vegas including an appeal by O.J. Simpson.

Last Friday, attorneys for some of the 13 defendants in the Wedding Chapel case asked the judge to appoint a special prosecutor. Assistant District Attorney Chris Owens, who is actually prosecuting the defendants, told Judge Michael Villani that appointing a special prosecutor would slow down the case even more and waste taxpayer’s money.

Special Memory Knife Fight

The fight spontaneously erupted after a wedding chapel manager inadvertently scheduled a Mongols wedding right after a Hells Angels wedding. The two clubs sometimes do not get along.

Two Mongols, James Nalder and Eugene Formica who were the groom and the best man, were both stabbed. A July 2010 indictment alleges they were stabbed by defendants Jeffrey Murray and John Merchant.

The bride, Amanda Valenzuela, fled the chapel and one of the defendants threw a glass bottle at her. Udell Wickham, Jonathan Babcock and James Michael Pope were also punched and kicked. The brawl lasted about one minute.

The night of the brawl, chapel owner Joshua Gust, told Las Vegas television station KTNV that the knife fight was just bad luck. “There’s 100,000 weddings a year in Las Vegas and how many across the world. To have two groups that close together, I think that is very odd.”

The Fallout

The assault led to a raid on the Hells Angels clubhouse in November 2009. Thirteen members and friends of the Hells Angels Las Vegas charter were indicted on July 8, 2010.

Together the indicted men face thirteen felony counts. The charges are: Conspiracy to Commit Assault, Battery or Provoking Commission of Breach of the Peace; two counts of Attempted Murder With Use of a Deadly Weapon With Intent to Promote the Activities of a Criminal Gang; three counts of Battery With a Deadly Weapon With Substantial Bodily Harm With Intent to Promote the Activities of a Criminal Gang; Battery With Substantial Bodily Harm With Intent to Promote the Activities of a Criminal Gang; Assault With a Deadly Weapon With Intent to Promote the Activities of a Criminal Gang; Coercion With Force; and Coercion With Force With Use of a Deadly Weapon.

 

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97 Responses to “Special Memory Delay”

  1. Debater Says:

    HELLS ANGELS WIN CASE TODAY MISTRIAL DECLARED

    Wittnesses for the prosecution were found to be lying on the stand on mutiple occasions when Mongols and their women testified.

    FREE ALL HELLS ANGELS SUPPORT 81

  2. Sin City Blackest Says:

    Fuck Jerry Springer this site has more drama than Osama’s momma and a lot more entertaining. Real talk. A lot of internet “gangsters” on here though. lol

  3. Rebel Says:

    Dear Debater,

    You can say anything you want here except, “Rebel, say what I tell you to say.” I understand this is very stressful for you and I sympathize. You sound like a good wife.

    Rebel

  4. ghost Says:

    hey debater support your husband quietly, then go read caretakers last post on this thread, looks like an order to me!!!!! by the way what your doing isn’t support, it’s stupidity and i would be willing to bet green money that whoever your spouse is either doesn’t know your posting this shit or he is as much of an imbecile as you!!! i would also bet green money that your spouse is not a patch holder or you would know better than to be posting your bullshit… last but certainly not least, your posts don’t bode well for the group that you support and i would bet every thing i own that if any patch holderfrom the ha were to read all of your posts then your husband who ever he is would be talked to and you would get punched by him now have a nice day

  5. Bill Says:

    Rebel: You are asking a woman to make up her mind. Have you taken leave of your senses?

  6. Debater Says:

    That was not a threat Rebel all I did was state the the facts and everyones panties got in a bunch. I feel like I have the right to express my opinion along with everyone else. You all can call me what ever you want ” I WILL SUPPORT MY HUSBAND “

  7. Debater Says:

    ~ FREE ALL HELLS ANGELS ~ SUPPORT 81 ~

  8. Rebel Says:

    Dear Debater,

    Don’t threaten me again. Your comment was deleted at your request. Make up your mind.

    Rebel

  9. JIM666 Says:

    Muck 1%er Says:I ll type it really slow so you can get it
    Now thats funny,,lmao

  10. Caretaker Says:

    Debater-
    Know your role and shut your mouth. This ain’t “real housewives”. Got it?

    Caretaker 1%er
    H.A.M.C

  11. Muck 1%er Says:

    No shit bitch. I know the difference in maroon and moron. You don’t even make it to the moron level.
    Lemme say something you can understand and I’ll type it really slow so you can get it. You are a dumb fuckin cunt who has no place in a mans world. If you are indeed a patch holders woman, you just brought a tremendous amount of shame to him.
    If my woman spouted shit like you on a public forum like this and displayed the disrespect for me and my club that you have, at the very least she would be limpin out the door with her ass in her hand.
    Take your gutter trash IQ and go play in a different sand box. No one here wants to hear your trash talk, nor do they want to play your game.

    Bye bye now

  12. Debater Says:

    Trial continued Tuesday, a day after Pitaro told the jury the Hells Angels “acted reasonably under the circumstances” when they perceived danger from members of a violent organization that he said had “a well-deserved reputation for violence.”

    Pitaro told jurors that tensions between the rival clubs were high at the time. Three months before the Las Vegas fight, a Mongols member from Modesto, Calif., killed a man authorities called the leader of the San Francisco Hells Angels chapter. Christopher “Stoney” Ablett was convicted and sentenced this year to life in federal prison without parole in the September 2008 stabbing and shooting death of Mark “Papa” Guardado.

    Pitaro said that before the wedding chapel encounter, Mongols who had been indicted in Las Vegas on federal charges were found to have pictures and background checks of local Hells Angels.

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    Unprovoked attack or self-defense? Jury hears 2 views of Hells Angels-Mongols brawl in Vegas

    THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    July 24, 2012 – 2:40 pm EDT

    AAA

    LAS VEGAS — A prosecutor opened trial for eight acknowledged Hells Angels motorcycle club members with a video showing a brawl with rival Mongols members at a downtown Las Vegas wedding chapel.

    Assistant Clark County District Attorney Chris Owens said Monday the 60-second battle between the outlaw motorcycle gangs stemmed from an unprovoked attack.

    But defense attorney Tom Pitaro, representing John Merchant, cast the brawl as self-defense. Pitaro told jurors the Hells Angels were at A Special Memory Wedding Chapel for a marriage ceremony, not a fight, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported (http://bit.ly/OkWNUi ).

    Trial continued Tuesday, a day after Pitaro told the jury the Hells Angels “acted reasonably under the circumstances” when they perceived danger from members of a violent organization that he said had “a well-deserved reputation for violence.”

    Authorities say two people were stabbed and at least four others were hurt in the December 2008 melee. Police say fists, feet, bottles and trash cans were used as weapons after Hells Angels leaving a wedding ceremony encountered at least three Mongols at the chapel for another wedding.

    Pitaro told jurors that tensions between the rival clubs were high at the time. Three months before the Las Vegas fight, a Mongols member from Modesto, Calif., killed a man authorities called the leader of the San Francisco Hells Angels chapter. Christopher “Stoney” Ablett was convicted and sentenced this year to life in federal prison without parole in the September 2008 stabbing and shooting death of Mark “Papa” Guardado.

    Pitaro said that before the wedding chapel encounter, Mongols who had been indicted in Las Vegas on federal charges were found to have pictures and background checks of local Hells Angels.

    Security was tight during opening statements before Clark County District Court Judge Michael Villani, with about 10 court marshals and Las Vegas police inside and outside the courtroom. Trial is expected to take several weeks.

    The eight defendants were among 13 men who each pleaded not guilty following their indictment in July 2010 on 13 charges, including attempted murder, battery, assault, conspiracy and taking part in activities of a criminal gang. They are accused of aiding and abetting each other. If convicted, each could face decades in prison. All are free on bond.

    Merchant and co-defendant Jeffrey Murray are accused of stabbing one Mongols member who planned to be married, and Merchant is accused of also stabbing another man. They are standing trial with John Dawson, Frederick O’Dell, Dominic Orlando, Armando Porras, James Sexey and Brandon Young.

    Defendants Joseph Gennuso, Brad Goldsmith, Charles Goldsmith, Samuel Murray and Joshua Ramos face trial July 30.

    Attorneys for Gennuso and Ramos have said their clients aren’t Hells Angels members.

    (Story distributed by The Associated Press)

  13. Bill Says:

    Too bad Jerry Springer is not a biker. He’d take this stuff to the next level, whether it was a good idea or not.

  14. ghost Says:

    oh my this bitch has to be the dumbest cunt on earth, first off she makes a bunch of dumb ass comments and has enemys on two threads, second your obviously some hang arounds girlfriend and a dumb one at that.. then you talk shit and threaten rebel!!! what ever you said in the deleted comment was so fucking stupid rebel wouldn’t put it on here and thats really saying something!!! then you try and use my insult to you in the wrong context, so let me break it down for ya i said go give your old man a blow job so you can practice keepin quiet since your probly some fat tweeker and dont understand simple orders like shut the fuck up you need to have a cock stuffed in your mouth.you said he ets his dick sucked by you whenever he wants, i’m sure that he and all the rest of the hang arounds do to!!!! no i’m not jealous you are a dunb bitch and you are making me sick in cyber space and last if you were ever in my presence i would back hand your dumb ass since whoever your old man is cant control you so really i mean it go kill your self and do everyone you’ve ever met a favor

  15. ghost Says:

    hey debater i didn’t relize there were two seperate storys on the same thing go check out special memory trial underway you have some fans on that thread to then why dont you take my advice on special memory trial delay and go kill yourself then you could be everyones special memory

  16. Debater Says:

    Why the fuck did you take my comment off Rebel I know you own this web site. If you make me prove it I am going to make you look real stupid I promise. I have the right to express my opinion along with evryone else.

    I was in trial today . Now say something else stupid !
    And your right he gets his dick sucked from me when ever he want’s ( JEALOUS ) I bet.

    SUPPORT 81 WIFEY

  17. ghost Says:

    good go kill yourself you dumb ass cunt!!!! second like i said debater is either a cop, a loser, or a shit stirrer, my vote is all three!!! if you are really a female and the wife of one of the defendants then he must be one of the hang arounds or associates in the case, because you probly wouldn’t be runnin your dumb ass mouth on here if the poor guy had a patch!!! and since who ever this poor soul is will probly be doin time soon why dont you go practice keeping quiet by giving him a blow job since it could be one of his last at least in the free world!!! no respect fuck you who ever you are!!!!

  18. Debater Says:

    First of all I am a Feamle you lame fuck and the Wife of one of the defendents. I was in the trial today now say something else stupid.

  19. ghost Says:

    debater is a cop and a loser at the very least a shit stirrer fuck this lame nuff said

  20. Debater Says:

    Public Record:

    Pitaro said that before the wedding chapel encounter, Mongols who had been indicted in Las Vegas on federal charges were found to have pictures and background checks of local Hells Angels.

    NOW WHAT DOES THAT SHOW ……

    The Republic News

  21. Debater Says:

    First of all “Maroon” is a color “Moron” is what you are. Its actually pretty clear to me who the true haters are from reading all of the comments. All against One and you make that clear on here.

  22. Muck 1%er Says:

    @ debater

    So, you’re sayin that because the Mongols didn’t run away and hide, that they are troublemakers? What a fuckin MAROON you are. First of all, they had a scheduled appt and second of all it is a free fuckin country.
    In the long run, the whole incident has proven costly for all involved.
    It’s obvious that you are here to start shit. Any fool can see that, so take your little dick syndrome and go pound yourself in the ass with it. I have nothing else to say to you on here and hopefully everyone else will see you for what you are. A shit stirrer.

  23. Debater Says:

    All I know is from all of the evidence about the wedding the only thing that stands out to me in the video is that the H A were their first. So when the Mongols showed up and saw them why didn’t they leave??? So who are the real trouble makers? Think about it !

  24. Rebel Says:

    Dear Claude Hanson,

    Good. It wasn’t quite like that but you have the general idea. Motorcycle clubs, wedding chapel, nasty fight. I have seen the video. If you want to know more enter “Special Memory” in the search field at the top of the page.

    Thanks for reading, thanks for commenting,
    Rebel

  25. Claude Hanson Says:

    I read that one motorcycle gang was attending the wedding of two of its members when a rival gang showed up for a wedding ceremony an hour later. Once the two groups came face to face, a fight broke out, leading to the stabbing. Police have surveillance video of the incident.

  26. Rebel Says:

    Dear neverwaz,

    Obviously the entire SWAT should be indicted for racketeering, their homes should be raided and wrecked, all their money stolen, their vehicles stolen, their pets executed, their wives and children should be compelled at gun point to stand naked in their front yards for all the neighbors to see and Discovery should do a one hour feature about this gang.

    Rebel

  27. neverwaz Says:

    How many indictments and charges will be served on this guys friends and associates…?

    http://news.yahoo.com/minneapolis-swat-officer-charged-assault-234917623.html

  28. JAMES Says:

    @ JOHN, L&R to you BRO, “right on man.”

  29. Junior Says:

    Good to see guys of different stripes still respecting each other after exchanging words. As an “aging-rebel” myself, i gotta say: We older guys MUST make sure we pass this same respectful attitude onto our younger guys & pledges. -Junior, Marines MC

  30. Goldsboro Williams Says:

    AVAGOVFFV:

    You’re right. It was bad timing. I have the same bad habit in the real world.

    Sometimes it works to defuse, sometimes its just annoying…

    My apologies to those involved.

    GW

  31. AVAGOVFFV Says:

    Goldsboro Williams,

    That really was funny… “commen-tator.” Funny just bad timing.

    VFFV LVDV
    Viva Los Vagos

  32. John Says:

    ..Having been around a very long time and as a retired Mongol, all I can say about things happening at funerals or weddings, it’s not just the younger generation, I was there when the funeral for two Mongol Brothers was bombed by the HA, back in 1977, so it’s not something new.
    L/R to James.

  33. BigV Says:

    Dear Sohn & Red & Gold: Please contact me asapa at [email protected]

    If you choose not to.. I understand. Rebel is welcome to share my story and who I am if he chooses not to. Thanks.
    BIGV

    Sohn & R+G: I am a biker who ascribes to beliefs that what I experience and relate is bound to my soul by death and experience.

    As such, I’d just my opportunity to save a few words, some congratulations, and some reconciliations.

  34. Anonymous Says:

    This thread sure took an odd turn. All of those involved I have had the pleasure of either meeting in person, knowing as brothers, or talking to on this site. ALL have been respectful in our interactions.

    Boom Boom, Sohn does not comment often but when he does he chooses his words carefully and is respectful of all concerned. Caretaker posts often and only recently posted who he rides with. He is always respectful of all clubs. This site as been around for a minute and gets a lot of traffic, some new posters and many regular posters. The majority of people that post here are in fact patch holders from one color or another.

    Lets leave the name calling for the streets and keep this page as a place where all can interact respectfully.

    And to Raider, you know our clubs policies when it comes to posting on here and need to be following them.

    Much respect to all of those that show it.

  35. Brandon Young Says:

    To my brother Sohn thank you for showing the respect and backbone that makes you the man you are…. A True example for all to follow strength and honor to you BRO ALWAYS US !

    To REBEL thank you for showing the people on the site how LVMPD showed myself and others on T.V. without permission or consent of ANY manner! AGAIN this is a down on FOX and metro not anyone else ……

    For all the disrespect towards my club thanks for being you…. internet gangsters and COWARDS !

  36. Rebel Says:

    Dear Red&Gold,

    Sohn is not a civilian and he is also a pleasant, reasonable and polite fellow. I don’t doubt you would enjoy his company if you met him.

    Rebel

  37. sherides Says:

    I saw this on the news this morning – it almost restored my faith in humanity.

    If only we lived in such a world.

  38. observer Says:

    Good morning everybody. I think this is what we’re all aiming at:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2155133/Meghan-Vogel-Inspiring-photo-shows-Ohio-runner-help-carry-competitor-finish-line.html

    The fact that it’s two girls doesn’t make it “sisterhood”. What it does show is the deeper connections between us all.

  39. JAMES Says:

    CARETAKER, it is, I had all I had to say on it. RESPECTS back to you.

  40. Caretaker Says:

    James-
    Chill,man,it’s over

    Goldsboro-
    Lol good one

    Brandon-
    Good luck

    Respects,
    Caretaker

  41. Goldsboro Williams Says:

    An Irish Potato married a Baked Potato.

    They had a daughter that was a sweet potato.

    She grew up, and moved to LA. One day she came home and said, “Mom, Dad, I am going to get married and I want your blessing.”

    Her father said, “Who do you intend to marry?”

    She replied, “The Aging Rebel.”

    Her father shook his head sadly and said, “Sweetie, I just can’t allow that. He’s just a Commen-tator.”

    Bad joke, I know, but I thought the thread could use some levity.

  42. JAMES Says:

    To BRANDON YOUNG, stuff it, clown, you ought to get to know your BROTHER “CARETAKER1%er, I feel he could help you with your sucky attitude, it is the ones like you who seem to try and force your will on others , from the postings you are not very good at it and are exactly the one kind of a club member that everyone is commenting about, a fine example you set maybe you can become a poster child for “HOW TO BE A BULLY” which the shoe seems to fit. Thanks REBEL for being you.

  43. Red&Gold Says:

    As do I…As do I….I think sometimes that is good…that we go all in…it makes us the men we are…sometimes it is not so good…I don’t think anything anyone said here could cause anyone who is tangled up in the subject of the article any problems, but who knows…I DO understand how those directly involved could see it that way…I’ve been there myself. You are very correct that words are impossible to take back, tho I wish I could on one post…I want to say again that there will be a comment that was tagged for moderation, addressed to you, showing up here that is very condescending…I wouldn’t have only been mellower, I wouldn’t have posted it at all had I known you were a member of one of the involved clubs…(or any real club for that matter)…I just thought it was another citizen talkin shit about a world he knows nothing about….I actually offer you some schooling in that comment so you’ll know how to introduce yourself to me when we meet!!…lol…well, as I said, I apologize for that comment that will show up sometime…I would never say any of what is in that comment to any Member of a 1% club…

  44. DesertH-D Says:

    To some posting, I got no horse in this race… Right out front with that. And therefore I will comment only accordingly.

    I’m going to bed. Good night.

    Respects to all that have earned it. You know who you are…

  45. Sohn Says:

    And I already read the one that was tagged for moderation, which is why I called you a Lame.

  46. Sohn Says:

    You asked how your comments could “hem someone up”. I pointed out how they could.
    your only knowledge of any event involving my club on this site is hearsay at best. Yet, you felt that you should comment on my club and tell a defendant in the case it’s your porogotive when he simply asked you to wait. I believe “dry snitching” is unintentional 90% of the time, but it still has the potential for harm all the time. I did bait you a little. I didn’t see your name and I knew if I got you mad enough you’d give it to me. My comment would have been alot mellower had I seen your name before and I apologize for my haste. Words are impossible to take back and I try to measure what I say. But unfortunately, sometimes, I go all in.

  47. Red&Gold Says:

    So you wrote that whole post calling me this and that bullshit….a what was the urban yada yada thing??? Oh Yea…a “Dry Snitch”… You disrespected me and expected me to just take it? So you did what you accused me of huh? Posting without leaving your affiliation/club ? I will say had I known that you “Had a horse in the Race” I wouldn’t have posted one comment that was tagged for moderation…it’ll show up sometime… and for that one I apologize to you because I wouldn’t post that to any member of any 1%ER Club…I thought you were just another citizen on here talking about shit they know nothing about…I aint gonna google you…I take you at your word… and I ain’t a probate either…tho I know where you saw that…lol…that facebook you saw when you googled me ain’t even me…I don’t know who put that up…feel free to contact whoever you like…

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