Kurt Explains It All

April 24, 2012

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Kurt Sutter, the producer of the hit sensation Sons of Anarchy, will debut a new show on the Discovery Channel May 14 at 10 p.m on the two coasts. The “reality” show will be called Kurt Sutter’s Outlaw Empires and it promises that “behind the America you know lies another world, where people live outside the law.”

What is most astounding about this promise is that apparently Sutter will divulge the previously unrevealed secret of how it might still be possible to live inside the law in America. The police must be in a panic over this. Most modern policing is based on the premise that everybody is guilty of something.

The Press Release

The official press release for the show, from which ten thousand puff pieces will bloom, goes on to explain that “Steered by Sutter’s compelling insight, each episode of Kurt Sutter’s Outlaw Empires tells the complete story of an iconic American outlaw dynasty – directly from the mouths of people from the inside. Through their no-holds-barred accounts, the series takes an unvarnished look at moment-by-moment experiences that were not only pivotal for the organizations themselves, but life-changing for the individuals telling the stories.”

So get your popcorn ready because here comes more grainy surveillance footage from Harrah’s in 2002. Whether Sutter’s footage will actually show ATF undercover agents bringing weapons in through the back of the casino or whether that part will have to be dramatically reenacted is not made clear in the release.

Sutter explains to the author of the release: “I’ve made a career writing about fictitious anti-heroes. To create these worlds, I’ve spent a lot of time with active members on both sides of the law. And if I had to pick the most interesting of the two, the choice is obvious – we all love the guys in black. This isn’t about making a judgment call on who’s good or bad. As a storyteller, I’m drawn to these personal, intimate accounts of why these men made the choices they made, and what it’s like to be a member of an outlaw organization.”

KSOE is being produced by Sutterink and Studio Lambert. So far the show has five executive producers and two co-executive producers. Sutter appears to be Il Capo dei Capi.

The Episodes

The show will air at least six episodes. Empires scheduled to be reality-ized include “The Crips,” but not the Bloods; “The Irish Mob,” by which Sutter seems to mean the Winter-Hill Gang, “The Nuestra Familia” which the release explains is “a Latin Group,” “The Italian Mafia,” described as “the most notorious crime family in America;” and “The Aryan Brotherhood.” A spokesman for Sutterink was unavailable to explain whether Discovery will now begin marketing temporary shamrock tattoos.

The sixth episode will feature “Outlaw Bikers.” Sutter has learned that “Two generations of veterans returned from war to an America they no longer fit into. So they banded together around motorcycles, and spawned an outlaw dynasty that endures to this day.” Now you know. too.

Outlaw Empires not dramatized in the show’s initial run include The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; The Federal Bureau of Investigation; the Department of Justice; The Department of Homeland Security; and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office.

Do you smell that? Do you what that smell is? That smell is money. Cha-ching!

 

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37 Responses to “Kurt Explains It All”

  1. Caretaker Says:

    Made it through to the first commercial break,then put on the national bingo championships… Found that much more entertaining…

    Respects,
    Caretaker

  2. Stoney Says:

    I watched the first one about the crips, in a word boring.

  3. BigV Says:

    YYZ Skinhead is our sis’ me thinks.

  4. rollinnorth Says:

    Thank you to all of you who served our country!
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1061127908

  5. pretjah Says:

    thanks bro!

  6. pretjah Says:

    anyone have any information on the discovery TV Ride with the Devil and the Laffing Devil MC?

  7. observer Says:

    RVN69: Maybe that’s like “gonzo reality” or something. Must’ve been pretty hilarious, especially for the MC. Hard to believe even a “Jackass” could be that stupid.

  8. RVN69 Says:

    Sled Tramp,
    Once upon a sleepless night I was channel surfing and came across Jackass on MTV. One of the people rode a moped up to a group of Hells Angels and started slapping them on the back and calling them “bro” he suddenly came tumbling out of the center of the group, when he got up he was holding the side of his face and saying something to the effect of “I’m going, I’m going” while the patchholders were saying something to the effect of “Sir did you hurt yourself when you fell?? Maybe you should seek medical attention.” And on it goes>

    “I am not an angel, nor am I the devil, I am the bastard stepchild of both.”

  9. sled tramp Says:

    BigV-
    Yeah,I remember rumors still floating around Bragg when I was there during the mid seventies regarding MacDonald.A couple of guys that knew him personally said he was a good guy and was railroaded.Thanks for the background,I knew of the coffins and the killing of the family but you connecting the dots makes sense of it.
    RVN69-Dyrdek makes a living producing and hosting a show where complete morons do extremely risky physical stunts and injure themselves on camera.May I suggest getting the camcorder ready for the inevitable knock on his door? Life imitates art.

  10. observer Says:

    BigV: That’s quite the historical tome you just put out there. I’ve never seen so much informed insight on any part of that story, much less the MacDonald connection. This is not information one packs around lightly. Thanks for bringing some of it into the light.

  11. rollinnorth Says:

    Is that Fritz Clap, “the lawyer from hell,” going after MTV? Pity the fool(s)!

    One thing about these idiotic shows is maybe they keep the “pain in the ass innocent bystander” citizens from coming around(?) But, I suppose it could cause some of them to act up because now they think they know what is going on. Bullshit begets bullshit. FTW

  12. RVN69 Says:

    sled tramp Says:
    April 26th, 2012 at 9:32 am
    Speaking of wannabe posers……..
    http://www.tmz.com/2012/04/26/hells-angels-rob-dyrdek-lawsuit-skull-logo/

    Good on the HA, hope they win.

    “BigV Says:The white asshole talking about being “the bloodiest gang” was a bank robbing, snitch that ratted on a group rumored to exist in certain incarceration settings. If you see any footage of him below the head, you’ll notice he walks with a cane. Wonder why ?”

    I recognized this guy BigV is talking about in the clip Rebel attached to this story. People will watch this shit, I just won’t be one of them, I have no interest in watching a show that presents snitches and ex members as spokesmen for us, even the “members” who talk with their voices changed and faces hidden are suspect, why would they talk shit about their own club?

    Anyway, I fully agree with BigV, I’ll be giving this a pass.

    “I am not an angel, nor am I the devil, I am the bastard stepchild of both.”

  13. Rashomon Says:

    To quote Groucho Marx –

    “I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book.”

    That sort of sums it up for me – The truth doesn’t make for good TV – the advertisers don’t like it.

  14. Glenn S. Says:

    Okay, I watched the trailer and if they are going to equate interviewing the rats with interviewing people “on the inside”, I’ll pass. The rats’ interviews are, no doubt, scripted by the feds and embellished to make the rat seem more important and serious than he actually was. Guess I should have expected it.

  15. Austin Says:

    ” … As a storyteller, I’m drawn to these personal, intimate accounts of why these men…”

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=storytelling

    at our house – men in black are ninjas, and storytelling = lying.

    It is always amazing how good marketers can turn a dollar on someone else’s experience.

    @Glenn – you are right, but Phuquehed is RIGHT ON. It is unfortunate.

    I recently had the mixed pleasure of watching ‘Contraband’ which is a relocated, slightly dressed up version of the events I was involved with but has no actual connection to my personal experience. I just wish my F*ng Ex & the co-conspirators had gotten a screenwriter and sold the story and made a book and a movie and a TV show and sold T-shirts. There is a non-profit clause in the federal sentencing, but perhaps the funds could go into the Victim Restitution Fund for credits on the fine, and then the rest of us might not have to worry about living in a box down by the river because we can’t even afford our van.

  16. Caretaker Says:

    I’ll watch the mc episode. Otherwise I could really give two shits about the show. To me it’s nothing more than “gangland 2.0”

  17. JAMES Says:

    Another rerun of the reruns, I wonder if his wife is going to be doing the interviews?

  18. BigV Says:

    I know I said I would not comment on that other piece of shit show after the “LET’S RUN SOME HEROIN WITH A CLUB WE’VE BEEN LOCKED IN A BLOOD FEUD WITH FOR 30 YEARS !” bullshit I saw.

    But, I will now comment on this, and I probably regret it.

    The white asshole talking about being “the bloodiest gang” was a bank robbing, snitch that ratted on a group rumored to exist in certain incarceration settings. If you see any footage of him below the head, you’ll notice he walks with a cane. Wonder why ? He

    As mentioned above by BookWorm, Dominick Montiglio was never even really truly in a certain Italian American subculture, he was nephew to a guy who was. He musta been kicked out of witness protection 4 or 5 times, because he was always pulling shit like Sammy Gravano: dope, whores, etc. Each time they needed him to tell lies about shit he had absolutely no idea about- he was let back in, treated lavishly and the pigs put him back in WITSEC. He claimed to be a Green Beret, claimed Special Forces, all kinds of shit- turns out the only thing that could be verified was he was third rate crooked MP who probably helped a lot of heroin go through coffins at Fort Bragg. He got scared someone would out him giving himself a million dollar wound, so he got the pricks in WITSEC to seal his Service Records from public view, but he was one of the MP’s who was working with Ike Atkinson to bring in Golden Triangle “H” to Fayettenam. The military knew something was up when some demolition supplies went missing and they new as early as 1967 what Atkinson was up to, and it’s not a coincidence the Army booted that fuck Montiglio in ’68 and it’s rumored he used his knowledge of what was coming through Bragg and also Fayettenam to make sure he got an honorary discharge. So not only was he a rat, snitch, dope smuggling, murdering fuck, he got away with it- repeatedly. The other thing is he may have had something to do with the murder of Jeffrey MacDonald’s wife and children, because Atkinson and others got spooked MacDonald knew that the incidence of morphine(metabolized from H) showing up in soldiers who came into the clinics was was too high for the availability of the drug generally in Fayettenam, so he started snooping. One of the reasons he got railroaded by the MP’s after they initially backed off was that Atkinson finally got busted and it was not several years after that MacDonald became a liability and after all those years, they threw his ass in the slammer. One of the thoughts behind why MacDonald has used the defense a “Manson-type” family did the murders is that if he’d told the complete truth that some crooked MP’s were in on it with some mildly connected guys, most people would laugh him out of the room. But I’ve spoken to a bunch of Vietnam Vets who were around in those days and they say that while there were a bunch of very violent stickup and B&E junkies around Fayettenam, it’s just as likely MacDonald’s family was killed by some crooked military and local cops to protect the $3000 a run per man they got for protecting the H heading to New York, Miami, Atlanta, and Charlotte.

    A couple of clubs, including a certain one with a very strong presence in the midwest were contacted by these fucking scumbags to see if they’d like to cooperate in being maligned on television. They said no and released a notice on their website of the bullshit these guys are trying to use to get people to cooperate with this horseshit.

    Hopefully when their little “Motorcycle GXNG” episode comes out and it becomes clear what he really thinks of us, some of the clubs will quit working with Sutter.

  19. Bookworm Says:

    I am pretty sure that the first guy talking in the video above is Dominick Montiglio. He testified against his uncle and some others in a rico type case in NYC years ago. Then he chose the career path of witness protection, write a book, try to sell a movie. I think at least some of the people that are talking in this show have chosen that path. Its that type of show. But I could be wrong.
    But what I am really confused about is when Sutter says
    “we all love the guys in black.” Is he referring to the task force members with balaclavas who kill pets and try to humiliate and punish everyone they target? Naw, I guess I know better than that.

  20. 10guage Says:

    Rebel,

    I was one of the apologists for this chump because I thought nobody would ever take these soap operas seriously…Now he is getting to the “truth” behind these “criminal” organizations….with a his take on “reality” show. It makes me want to puke…What an egocentric, money grubbing scumbag…He should make some fuckin money off his dirty cop buddies..There is plenty of drama and “reality” and an endless amount of material. He makes his money perpetuating very damaging sterotypes.

    I just got done reading Out Bad for a second time and no one to date has so eloquently captured and explained the philosophy, intent, and history of this life I love. If only the self glossed”cunt” was half as talented,informed, and honest as you…maybe He would come across less Hollywood and more authentic…Then again there can’t possibly be any help for an asshole that has studied and written about cops for as long as he has.

    Strength, Respect, Honor,
    10G

  21. things that make you go hmm Says:

    LET YOURE LAYER DO THE TALKING,I DONT THINK ANY ONE PERCENT CLUB SHOULD INTERVIEW,HENCE LET THE CLUBS LAYER DO THE TALKING OR ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR THE INTERVIEW.THE WHOLE GANGLAND SERIES SEEMS SO STICKY TO ME IF YOU END UP IN COURT AND THEY SAY HERE IS WHAT MR ONE PERCENTER SAID ON THIS EPISODE OF… ANYWAYS PEOPLE MIGHT SHIT THERE PANTS LATER IF WE FIND OUT GANGLAND WAS FUNDED BY THE FEDS ,ATF, ECT.MOTORCYCLE CLUB NOT GANG YA DIG.

  22. Pretjah Says:

    i’m going to with hold judgement until i see some actual material from the show.

    if it’s another gangland clone telling a story about crime i wont watch another episode.

    however if it’s done right as in telling a story of people who live a counter culture lifestyle it could be great.

    i do highly doubt that’s what it’ll be though

  23. Phuquehed Says:

    @Glenn S. Said:

    “Sutter has a unique opportunity to tell it like it is, and explore the railroadings, the bullshit undercover operations, the fact that the so-called criminals are living breathing men with hopes, dreams, people they love, and people that love them, blurring the artificial line society has drawn between law abiding and not that has too often been written as human and not. Sutter also has the opportunity to expose the myth that the law enforcers are the good guys because they are law enforcers.”

    Yeah, he has the chance, but won’t. There’s no money in that. He’d also more than likely get a call or talking-to from some alphabet soup government jagoff asking him to not be so truthful and he’d pussy out and follow their ‘advice’ faster than you could pinch a fart in an elevator. Fuck Sutter and the garbage he spews out to the public.

  24. Junior Says:

    This is great, Just what I needed, another hypnotic television show to watch after work and before bed….More commoditization of a lifestyle that so few that live in the matrix understand…I love this country, but I really hate the government and the Kurt Sutters that destroy it. FTG, FKS, FTP, FTW.

  25. Grumbler Says:

    On a related note, that loathesome, flatheaded keyboard commando, Mike Yevtuck, spewed his vehemenous hatred towards Dave Burgess in the comment section for Outlaw Empires: http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/04/24/kurt-sutter-outlaw-empires/

  26. Glenn S. Says:

    Sutter has a unique opportunity to tell it like it is, and explore the railroadings, the bullshit undercover operations, the fact that the so-called criminals are living breathing men with hopes, dreams, people they love, and people that love them, blurring the artificial line society has drawn between law abiding and not that has too often been written as human and not. Sutter also has the opportunity to expose the myth that the law enforcers are the good guys because they are law enforcers. In other words, he could do the show like you might do it, Rebel. His portrayal of the female ATF agent suggests that he is not naive about such things. I don’t put him in the same catagory as the shrill victims’ advocates like John Walsh or that asshole cop John Bunnell that used to do those “reality” cop shows that glorified the pigs beyond believability. Say what you like about Sons of Anarchy, but he does manage to portray some of the fictitious patchholders as human, rather than one dimentional monsters. An improvement over Gangland and Americas Most Wanted, at least, if not 100% truthful. I think Sutter likes hanging out with patchholders. He might treat them better than expected on his show.

  27. RVN69 Says:

    Phuquehed Says:Is there *anyone* in Hollywood with a lick of ethics and/or intelligence?

    Apparently not.

    I guess their going to flog this dead horse just like the chopper shows and the “reality” shows.

    FTF, FTP

    “I am not an angel, nor am I the devil, I am the bastard stepchild of both.”

  28. Uesque Says:

    So it’s basically Gangland with presumably better music?

  29. Phuquehed Says:

    The real shame is that there’s fucktards willing to listen to this fucktard and pay to have the m0r0nic show made.

    Is there *anyone* in Hollywood with a lick of ethics and/or intelligence?

  30. observer Says:

    “… it might still be possible to live inside the law in America.”
    This is just a temporary problem, I’m sure.

  31. Grumbler Says:

    Whether Kurt Sutter is regurgitating gangland propaganda like Joseph Goebbels (If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.) or not remains to be seen. Fuckin’ over the motorcycle culture with psuedo-documentaries for the zombified sheeple blows like a sperm whale feeding on plankton.

  32. YYZ Skinhead Says:

    OneEye,

    Beat me to it. Don’t forget Gang World and that “Devil” thing about which Rebel warned us.

    YYZ Skinhead

  33. OneEye Says:

    I don’t know, but I think it’s been done…American Gangster, Outlaw Bikers, Gangland. They really know how to belabour an issue, don’t they?

  34. Hose-a 1% Says:

    W.T.F.again

    Hose-a 1%er Pagan’s M.C.retired F.T.F.

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