Attention El Lay Anarchists

March 7, 2012

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It has already been a long, dry spell for the devoted followers of the motorcycle outlaw television series Sons of Anarchy.

It hasn’t been so bad for me because I don’t actually watch the show unless I am about to write something cruel and snide about it. But I know that many people who stumble onto this web site love the show. And, I also know that mentioning Sons of Anarchy equals web hits. So here goes.

An annual Los Angeles event called PaleyFest (spelled just like that) sponsored by The Paley Center for Media, will stage a panel discussion with Kurt Sutter (above), his old lady Katey Sagal and other cast members of Sons of Anarchy tonight, at 7 p.m. at the Saban Theater in Beverly Hills, on Wilshire Boulevard between La Cienega and San Vicente. Excellent tickets cost $75 each. Less excellent tickets may be available for as little as $20.

Fans who can’t get to Beverly Hills in time or who can’t afford a ticket can stream the event live here.

Paley? Juice? Chibs? Stuart?

The Paley Center and Fest are both named for William Paley, the broadcasting pioneer who built CBS. The panel discussion will also feature the actors who play the characters “Juice,” “Chibs,” “Unser” and “Chucky” which may be important to those of you for whom those colorful names ring a bell. The panel will be “moderated” by Stuart Levine of Daily Variety.

I have never been certain what Sons of Anarchy is about. The press release for this event states:

“Hamlet on a Harley? Really. Integrating provocative riffs on Shakespeare, creator Kurt Sutter has infused his dark biker series, Sons of Anarchy, with dramatic questions of rightful succession at an outlaw motorcycle club in Charming, a crazed fictional town in northern California. For four seasons Sutter, a former executive producer of The Shield, has explored loyalty and family with a frank narrative freshness as Jax Teller (Charlie Hunnam) realizes his father was murdered by strongman and former club president Clay Morrow (Ron Perlman), who then married his scheming mother Gemma (Katey Sagal). With masterful twists of deadly betrayal involving drugs and gun running, Sons of Anarchy has become the most-watched series in the groundbreaking FX universe of morally challenging dramas.”

That didn’t help me but I’m stupid so maybe it will help you.

Fans Want To Know

Fans of the show have already started submitting questions to the panel and at least some of those questions are interesting. Very early this morning, for instance, an anarchist named “Kamie K.” asked:

“Does the cast have any thoughts or observations about how the show may have effected viewers’ opinions about motorcycle clubs? Specifically romanticizing outlaw biker life, exposing laymen to the distinctive lingo and customs, and making the lifestyle seem sexy and exciting to normies who may want to play dress-up, get tattooed, buy motorcycles, and pretend to be badasses now that they’ve seen it on TV?”

Enjoy the show. You’ll laugh. You’ll cry! Enzyte Bob will wonder how you do it! Remember to return here regularly for all the latest, breaking, exciting Sons of Anarchy news. Don’t forget to click some ads before you go.



64 Responses to “Attention El Lay Anarchists”

  1. Austin Says:

    Rashomon – Happy? – HellsFire, you’re a short timer! Congrats on seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
    @ observer – Great link for El Cid. History I could understand

  2. OneEye Says:

    I have been institutionalized 4 times, but I swear this is the LAST one, ha ha ha ha! Some guys hit a home run and others get to home plate one base at a time.

  3. Glenn S. Says:

    Congrats, Rashoman! I’m not sure I get the concept of alimony in a time where there are more women in the workforce than men, where women are affirmatively promoted and hired, and of “I am woman, hear me roar.” (Guess the song wouldn’t have been so popular if it went “I am woman, hear me whine.”) Let me guess, she became “disabled” during the course of the marriage, and couldn’t work? Perhaps before the ink was dry on the marriage license?

    Never had one to shoot me. My second ex-wife tried, she of the “became disabled during the course of the marriage”. She had multiple personality disorder, which only became evident six weeks after the wedding. My friends used to say: “Wow, you get to fuck a whole lot of different women!” The problem was that when I fucked the stone freak, the rest of the personalities thought I was running around on them, and there was undue chaos and drama. Her clinical counseller told me I was scum for doing so. Eventually, I fucked none of them. Then, after the time she tried to shoot me, I left. She got a lawyer. I lost my house and a lot of money, which I agreed to so as to not pay alimony. She used the money to move three states away, for which I am eternally grateful. That was several years ago, and now I’m married again. At least I’ve been able to stay off the dope.

    A friend of mine says it best: “When a woman marries a man, she does so with the expectation that he will change. When a man marries a woman, he does so with the expectation that she will stay the same. Both will be disappointed. When I moved in with her: “Of course you can smoke here. And I hope your friends will visit. Its your home too!” Yesterday: “Ah, so Mike came by. I thought the house smelled real bad from all the smoke.”

    In the immortal words of Sonny Barger: “Can’t live without them. Can’t use their bones for soup.”

  4. Rashomon Says:

    I lost out big on mine – the sister was a divorce attorney so they froze what assets I had and forced me to pay her legal fees while having no money to get a lawyer for myself. That little thing cost me two grand a month for six years so I’ve been broke from that. I bought a condo with what I could scrape together after the house got sold and now i have the same problems with condo nazi’s that you do and the mortgage is underwater but most of this is hardly unusual these days it seems.

    I consider myself lucky to have my health and freedom so fuck ’em all if they can’t take a joke.

  5. Pretjah Says:

    Dear Rebel

    i make no bones about liking SOA…knowing full well that it’s as close to reality as Mchale’s Navy is of US Naval men.

    however a few years ago something you’ve said stuck with me and i laugh about it everytime i think about it and have shared it with many people…

    in reference to Ron Perlman (clay on the show) you made the statement (and i’m paraphrasing sorry)

    He walks like he took a shit in his pants, and his face looks like he smells it.

    LOL dude that still kills me!

  6. 10Gauge Says:

    I’ve been with my share of crazy ol ladies…Had one take a bite out of my back after breaking down the bedroom door when I was attempting to sleep off a drunk undisturbed…I never married any of them because I knew they were crazy.

    I don’t know what it is about us men I have seen very respected men marry women who were stone cold insane bitches…I have too much ego for that…I keep my nose out of another man business, as you can’t change someones mind and will just wind up beating the shit out of each other in front of the bar….Don’t ask me how I know that.

    I have been with my current ol lady for many years now, and we got engaged 6 weeks after hooking up. And trust me I know how lucky I am. She is a great lover, friend, partner, cook, confidant, and mother to my children. I always have lways laughed when guys say their ol ladies just are not into having sex anymore. No… they just aren’t interested in having it with you!

  7. Ant Blackwell Says:

    ok i do get why a lot of 1%ers and clubs dislike not so much the show but what it represents.. but as patch/diamond holders what do you say to Sonny Barger, Oakland DL & Chuck Zito who co signs the show ?? do you knock them for getting paid as representatives of their own lifestyle ? we can’t help what the government does, they are gonna do what they want whether right or fuck them.. i feel that this show should be embraced as a salute to the 1%er , yea it can be over the top but we understand thats for entertainment/marketing purposes.. i mean what else even mentions the outlaw culture ? Gangland ?!

  8. Just saying Says:

    Now I’ll say something really snide which will probably get me punched in the mouth IRL:

    From Sonny Barger’s guest Appearances to other HA members being technical advisors and quick google search reveals that the character “happy” is played by an active HA patch-holder David LaBrava. In fact Sonny Barger says that SOA is his favorite show.

    It seems the only reason there is a Sons of Anarchy even exists in the first place is because the Hells Angels themselves both 1) let it 2) want it and love it.

    Now when SOA cast members show up to plug the show in their studio costumes at HA functions, who aranges for this?

    Now you can look at Hells Angels long standing history as the most media friendly image conscious club. Hells Angels ’69?? anyone, Mr Barger’s first film appearance when he plays the same biker role on film. Instead back then, HA was calling the shots. He’s ALWAYS been willing to sell his persona for fame in the same circles you don’t want in your scene.

    Lets be frank, if anyone “sold out” or “messed up” this subculture of yours its the Hells Angels(or at least some of them, starting with Mr. Barger and the club seems to be OK with it). They seem to LOVE holywood and movie stars. Or at least more so than any sort of loyalty to some “lifestyle”.

  9. Rebel Says:

    Dear Just Saying,

    I hear you. I think some Vagos are working as regular extras on the show, too. I don’t care. I hope everybody gets paid behind this show. My objections to Sons of Anarchy are that the show poisons jury pools and is often fatuous and trivial. No MC “sold out” or “messed up.” The show doesn’t prosecute anybody. The DOJ prosecutes bikers. The show is Kurt Sutter’s valentine to everybody in the MC world. My impression is that Sutter is trying to be nice. Chuck Zito may disagree.

    As far as the Angels go, they have sort of had fame thrust on them for the last 50 years. I don’t think Ralph Barger or any other Angel has chased fame to any greater extent than anybody else would chase fame. Barger was in one movie and then decades later he was in one episode of Sutter’s show. There was some of what directors call “wild footage” of him in Gimme Shelter and he has probably been interviewed several times on television. Hunter Thompson made Barger a public figure. So what? How many times has Jay Dobyns been on TV in the last five or six years?

    Look man, as soon as Kurt Sutter comes to me and says, “Rebel, I am going to pay you to dress up in a fucking chicken suit and go on TV,” I am going to reply, “Where do I sign? When will the check clear? Do you want me to go cluck-cluck?” Okay? I am all for guys getting paid. The big biggest problem in the United States of America in 2012 is that not enough fucking people are getting paid. Okay?

    Personally, I am much less offended by Kurt Sutter than I am by Julien Sher, Yves Lavigna, the many tentacles of News Corp, Agent Jay or Gangland LLC. And, I don’t care about preserving any “subculture,” “counterculture” or “lifestyle.” I care about preserving the right of Americans to belong to any affinity group or subculture or motorcycle club or political party or religion they want.

    The Angels, because they were thrust into the public eye so long ago, are kind of a special case. One minute Eric Burdon and the Animals and Ken Kesey and Neal Cassidy and Hunter Thompson all loved them. The next minute the national media was equating them with the Manson family. And, all of that was 45 years ago. Mass media are fascinated with the Hells Angels because in stupid television land, “Hells Angels” also means Mongols, Pagans, Vagos, Gypsy Jokers, Brother Speed, Ghost Mountain Riders, Bandidos, Outlaws, Warlocks, Sons of Silence, Vietnam Vets, Highwaymen, DD, Galloping Goose and about 200 other clubs. In the popular imagination “Hells Angels” is a metonym for outlaw biker in the same way Hollywood is a metonym for mass media bullshit.

    So? I am often astoundingly stupid so you will have to tell me. What’s your point?


  10. RVN69 Says:

    Just saying,
    It has been reported that Chuck Zito has accepted a role in the next season, after basically having his ass handed to him in a lawsuit by Sutter. What does this mean? I don’t know, maybe it just means that Sutter offer him a ton of money to be on TV? It doesn’t change the fact that incidents like this are beginning to happen.

    Omnes relinquite spes o vos intrantes

  11. BigV Says:

    Zito has had a SOA banner on his site for a month or so. Mother-fuck.

  12. Rebel Says:

    Dear RVN69,

    Good for Sutter and good for Zito. Sutter did the right thing and Zito will clock some Hollywood dollars.

    When the fuck it gone be Rebel’s turn to get paid? When Lord? When?

    The story you linked states: “Among the many twists in the case is how the idea of forming a gang evolved. Prosecutors said that occurred as Godwin and others were watching the cable-based Sons of Anarchy, a show about an outlaw California motorcycle gang. Defense attorneys argued there was no such influence and that no gang existed.”

    Federal prosecutors have been genetically engineered in top secret government labs to have no shame.


  13. Dumpster Says:

    I know this comes a little late in the game but, Dayum that was funny! Made my day, I even had to clean coffee off of my screen.

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