The New York Mongol

February 21, 2012

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RICO prosecutions of motorcycle clubs are always demonstrations of propaganda – or as bureaucrats prefer to call it, “perception management.” To date, there may be no shinier example of perception management than a quickly forgotten publicity stunt called “Operation On The Road Again.”

On September 15, 2010 a Department of Justice perception manager announced:

“Earlier today, two indictments were unsealed in federal court in Central Islip and White Plains, New York, charging 17 alleged members and associates of Long Island, up-state New York, and New Jersey chapters of the Pagans outlaw motorcycle gang. Simultaneous with today’s arrests, federal agents executed search warrants at seven locations on Long Island, including the gang’s local chapter headquarters, a tattoo parlor in Rocky Point; two locations in up-state New York; four locations in New Jersey; and seized 34 firearms and one improvised explosive device (IED). The Central Islip indictment (the EDNY Indictment), filed in the Eastern District of New York, charges defendants with racketeering, murder conspiracy, assault, extortion, drug distribution, witness tampering, and firearms offenses. The White Plains indictment (the SDNY Indictment), filed in the Southern District of New York, charges defendants with drug trafficking and firearms offenses.”

“The charges,” the federal press release explained, “are the culmination of a 21-month undercover investigation led by ATF Special Agents who gained access to the internal operations of the gang.”

One Brand Two Indictments

The fact that there were two indictments in two separate federal districts but only one brand, the “Operation On The Road Again” brand, betrays the essentially contrived and specious nature of the charges. But newspapers throughout the Northeast ran the story anyway because it was an easy and impeccably sourced story to write. What reporter would ever turn down a free, prewritten story? And, what cynic would ever doubt the word of a government spokesman?

The headline in most public accounts shouted the accusation that members of the Pagans Motorcycle Club intended to throw hand grenades at members of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club. For Christmas.

Jason Nark’s story in the Philadelphia Daily News is a wonderful example of what people who still read newspapers were told.

“The Pagans Motorcycle Club didn’t burn down the boardwalk during a biker rally in Wildwood (New Jersey) last weekend,” Nark began his exemplary lead, “but they did take a few moments to plan a thoughtful Christmas gift for some fellow bikers.

“Unfortunately, ‘Christmas presents’ was a phrase the outlaw motorcycle gang used for homemade hand grenades, federal officials said, adding that some Pagans in Wildwood last weekend were plotting to use them to kill members of the Hells Angels, their biggest rival.

“According to indictments unsealed in New York federal court yesterday, two undercover federal agents infiltrated the infamous outlaw motorcycle gang’s Long Island chapter over the course of a 21-month investigation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives dubbed ‘Operation On the Road Again,’ and broke up a plot to murder Hells Angels with homemade grenades.”

Plied Their Criminal Trade

Then Nark used U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara’s freeze dried quote from the government release.

“As this case suggests, violent and criminal motorcycle gangs are not quaint vestiges of the past. Some of the defendants allegedly plied their criminal trade not in the inner city but in quiet communities like the Catskills. I especially applaud the work of the United States Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of New York. Today’s Indictments stand as a tribute to the cooperative efforts of law enforcement at all levels.”

Nark failed to mention that the one “grenade” seized in the case was made at the request of one of the ATF undercover agents and given to him long before the arrests.

The bottom of police press releases invariably crawls with self congratulatory quotes. In the September 15, 2010 release Ronald B. Turk, the head ATF Agent in New York bragged:

“Today’s arrests affirm ATF’s commitment to making our neighborhoods safer. Targeting and arresting armed violent criminals remains one of our top priorities and we, along with our partners, will continue this fight. We have targeted several out-of-state firearms, explosives, and narcotics suppliers of this outlaw motorcycle gang and will continue to combat all of these illegal activities. I would also like to express my sincere appreciation to the ATF undercover special agents who gained access to the Pagans inner circles. By doing this, they put their lives on hold and at risk to ensure a complete and thorough investigation.”

It is a familiar line of horseradish: Brave agents…worst of the worst…inner circles…gang…blah, blah, blah. As is always the case, perception management, like freedom, is not free. Victims must be rounded up and sacrificed lest the fierce god Con- Gress nibbles at the sacred ATF budget or worse folds the fireworks and cigarette police into the FBI.

The Human Sacrifices

There were 17 human sacrifices collected in Operation On The Road Again. Sixteen of them were Pagans. The Pagans who disappeared into a case named United States v. Ebeleing et al. are John Rickard Ebeling, Jr., Jason “Roadblock” Blair, Ezra Arthur “Izzo” Davis III, Kenneth “Hogman” Van, Diver, Robert “Boston Bob” Hamilton, Tracy Lahey, Douglas “Doc” Yeomans, Derek “Pop Up” Dekker, Timothy “Pita” Fowler, Raymond “Bluto” Hamilton, Edward “Coz” Samborski, Robert “Hellboy” Deronde and Robert “Boobie” Leonardis.

Tracy Lahey also became the lead defendant in a second case called United States v. Lahey et al. Lacey’s codefendants in that case included Doc Youmans, Izzo Davis, a 70-year-old Pagan named Sergio “Cano” Cuevos, Pagans Walter Tarrats and Harold “Wiz” Legg and the lone Mongol in the state of New York, a man named Robert “Commanche” Santiago.

All the men were charged in the initial, and eventually superseding, indictments with multiple offenses including drug trafficking and conspiracy. The two court cases were disconnected in order to frustrate public scrutiny. That ploy worked.

The Cause

The cases were intentionally contrived and made secret in order to frustrate any reporter who wanted to find out what Operation On The Road Again was actually about. It was about was advancing the careers of a handful of ATF agents at the Long Island Field Office. Two of them, the case agents, are Eric Kotchian, a former United States Marshall and Bryan DiGirolomo. Seventeen months after the headlines the names of the two undercover agents who “infiltrated” the Pagans remain state secrets.

From the beginning, it was obvious that the human sacrifices had been singled out for prosecution because of their motorcycle club membership.

Reporters who wanted to cover the story badly enough to actually read the initial indictments learned: “Outlaw motorcycle clubs, also known as ‘onepercent clubs’ (sic) or ‘one-percenters,’ were national criminal organizations not recognized or chartered by motorcycle sporting groups such as the American Motorcyclist Association.”

The Press Gives Up

The one follow up to the initial stories appeared in the New York Daily News on October 6, 2010. John Marzulli reported that “An undercover federal agent faced a ghoulish test to gain the trust of a violent motorcycle gang – burying a dismembered corpse in upstate New York.” Instead of a corpse, “Feds and state troopers found a foul-smelling tarpaulin containing two boots, towels and rotting garbage – but no body.”

“We believe the agent was given a test to see if he would do it and whether he would tell anybody about it later,” an unnamed source (who just might have worked in the Long Island Field Office of ATF) told Marzulli.

Marzulli’s were literally the last words published about the case in any newspaper in the world.

The Lawyers Give Up

At this point, in February 2012, most of the defendants in this case remain incarcerated. So far there have been 196 court filings in named United States v. Ebeleing et al. There have been a paltry 92 court filings United States v. Lahey et al.

The lack of action in the case is explicable only if you allow that most of the defendants must be represented by Rip Van Winkle.

Several attorneys did file what is called a Franks’ Motion in October 2011. Named for a 1978 federal case titled Franks v. Delaware, a Franks Motion invalidates evidence collected using a search warrant that was issued on the basis of an affidavit that lies. The affidavits in the two On The Road Again cases were written by ATF case agents Eric Kotchian and Bryan DiGirolomo.

Significant anecdotal evidence indicates that the affidavits were full of lies. Whether the lies originated with the case agents or the undercovers and whether the affidavits were malicious or just half-assed may eventually be determined in some future, probably secret, court proceedings in some federal district somewhere in New York. Just as soon as all the lawyers finish their very long naps and wake up.

Let’s Meet Commanche

In the meantime, some of the imprisoned men may deserve the opportunity to shout, “Hello! Hello!” Consequently, this will be the first in a loose series of stories about Operation On The Road Again and its aftermath.

As good a place as any to start is with the lone Mongol in the case.

“I am Robert ‘Commanche One Percenter’ Santiago of the Mongols Motorcycle Club New York,” he says. Santiago wants the public at large to understand how the ATF “is using us as a meal ticket.”

“What did you do?”

“We went to a party and they made a federal case out of it,” he says. “Literally.”

The DiGirolomo Affidavit

The search warrant affidavit written by case agent Bryan DiGirolomo lists the principal presearch charges against Santiago.

“Robert Santiago, also known as ‘Comanche,’ is a member of another outlaw motorcycle club called the Mongols Outlaw Motorcycle Club,” the agent begins, “ and, in or about May 2010, Santiago was the president of the Mongols Upstate New York Chapter. According to the UC, members of the Pagans frequently gathered for meetings and/ or parties, and purchased, used, and distributed narcotics, including, among others, cocaine, crack cocaine, amphetamines, prescription medications, and marijuana, during those gatherings. The Pagans members sometimes purchased narcotics from the members of other outlaw motorcycle gangs, including the Mongols. During those meetings, the secretary/treasurer often collected money from other Pagans as their ‘membership dues” a portion of which were transferred to the Mother Club members.”

“Later that afternoon,” DiGirolomo eventually continues, “members of the Mongols Motorcycle Club arrived at Lahey’s residence, and the UC was introduced to “Comanche,” the president of the Mongols Upstate New York Chapter, who was later identified as Robert Santiago.

“Santiago arrived at Lahey’s residence with a woman who was carrying a bag . The woman was identified to the UC as Saniago’s ‘old lady’ (i.e., his girlfriend or wife). The UC also saw Santiago get out of his car carrying an object wrapped in what appeared to be a t-shirt. Santiago walked into the porch area of Lahey’s house and removed a shotgun with a shortened barrel from the t – shirt. Santiago showed Youmans the sawed-off shotgun. Santiago, Youmans, Lahey and the woman accompanying Santiago went into a bedroom in the house and closed the door. A short time later, Youmans and Lahey left the bedroom and Youmans approached the UC. Youmans told the UC that the eight-ball of cocaine would cost $150 and each 1-gram bag of cocaine would cost $50. The UC handed Youmans $250 in cash, and saw Youmans hand that money to Lahey. The UC subsequently observed Lahey hand an amount of cash to Santiago. Approximately 45 minutes later, Youmans asked the UC if Lahey had given the UC the cocaine, and the UC responded that Lahey had not. The UC then saw Youmans speak to Lahey. Within a few minutes, Lahey approached the UC and asked the UC to come to Lahey’s bedroom. As the UC and Lahey entered the bedroom, Santiago walked out of the bedroom. When the UC entered the bedroom, the UC saw a large quantity of a white powdery substance on a table in a bedroom, which, based on the UC’s training and experience, he/she believed to be cocaine. The woman who arrived with Santiago and another woman were seated at the table cutting and packaging the cocaine into small green plastic bags. At or about the same time, Lahey handed the UC four small green plastic bags and two smaller clear plastic bags that each contained a white powdery substance ‘that appeared to be cocaine.’”

Eventually, “After departing Lahey’s residence that evening, the UC gave the remaining bags containing the white powdery substance that he/she had purchased at the Pagans gathering to another ATF agent, who submitted it to a laboratory for testing. According to a report of the laboratory analysis of the substance obtained by the UC the substance tested positive for the presence of cocaine.”

Justice

The actual electronic recording that theoretically should substantiate the allegations against Santiago starts and stops. On the recording, the UC can be heard snorting the “white powdery substance” and praising its quality.

The entire distribution of the allegedly illicit substance was entirely within the confines of the party.

The search revealed indicia that Santiago belonged to the Mongols but no drugs, drug paraphernalia, ledgers or other items listed in the warrant. In a shed behind Santiago’s home the raiding party found a sawed off shotgun with a broken handle, an unloaded .22 caliber revolver and five rounds of .22 caliber ammunition.

Santiago has been in jail ever since. He is charged with “Narcotics Distribution,” the “Possession and Use of Firearms in Furtherance of Narcotics Distribution,” and “Firearms Possession.”

He has not yet had a bail hearing.

 

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100 Responses to “The New York Mongol”

  1. GREENEYEZ Says:

    OK THAT’S AWESOME
    THANK YOU SO MUCH
    I WILL KEEP IN TOUCH

  2. Rebel Says:

    Dear GREENEYEZ,

    I last heard from Comanche over the weekend and am working on the story today. I know I haven’t written anything about him for a long time but I haven’t forgotten him.

    Rebel

  3. GREENEYEZ Says:

    HI REBEL
    COMANCHE IS THE FIRST IN HISTORY IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT IN NEW YORK TO BE GRANTED “FRANK’S MOTION”
    THE CASE IS SLOWLY ROLLING. THE REASON WHY IT’S TAKING SO LONG AND THE REASON WHY THERE IS NO NEWS ON IT YET IS BECAUSE THE FEDS GOT CAUGHT IN THEIR OWN LIES. THEIR OWN EVIDENCE PROVES IT.
    I HOPE ALL THESE GUYS ARE GOING TO HOME SOON.
    I WILL KEEP IN TOUCH
    THANK YOU SO MUCH

  4. NJWATCH Says:

    Did the report say… That the RAT PIG AND HIS WIFE HANDED IN THE REMAINING BAGS….? Hmmmm….did they ingest,sell or misplace the “other”bags….?

  5. Rebel Says:

    Dear Sisterlove,

    Yeah I need to get back on this story. I hear from Commanche Santiago all the time and I was talking about this case and what I could do not long ago. But it is basically a slow motion case. Not much news in it and I have had trouble finding an angle or a coherent narrative.

    Rebel

  6. SISTERSLOVE Says:

    REBEL,
    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HANDING THE FEDS SOME OF THEIR OWN BS!! AMAZING HOW MESSED UP OUR GOVERNMENT REALLY IS AND HOW MUCH THEY GET AWAY WITH. AS OF NOW ALL REQUESTS FOR FRANK HEARINGS HAVE BEEN IGNORED… BRAVO FOR THIS ARTICLE AND I FINALLY READ ONE THAT DIDNT PISS ME OFF!! BTW MY BROTHER(BIOLOGICAL) IS ONE OF THE 17…. THESE GUYS NEED A VOICE…

  7. joey Says:

    Funny how when this investigation was going on there was a carnival around the block from the PMC club house that was attended by a bunch of “HA” and “Demon Knights”. Who then proceeded to ride to the tattoo shop and almost kill Roadblock 1% er. And funny how the feds camera that were on the corner taping every move of the PMC clubhouse was not working that day. And no cops showed up knowing the close proximity of the HA and the PMC club house. The HA were given the green light to assault Roadblock and others..this country is fucked and so are the feds. They buy there
    busts with cash and free passes to other clubs

  8. dan the man Says:

    Huffingtonpost.com. says 80% of americans don’t trust government. Sounds to me like a good time for a ballsy leader to stand the fuck up & call for revolt. Come on Rep. Paul, grab your old wrinkled balls & do something that’ll really change this country. 80%!!! WTF?

    the problem is there is another %10 give or take of the population who is willing to step up and be “enforcers”, or otherwise exploit the situtation for their own gain.

    Los Cosa Nostra(Italian Mafia) did this from WW2 until the end of the late 70s, while Edgar Hoover was alive, and provided protection for them at the highest levels. Then they ran both sides of the house, both legal and underworld.

    In the Reagan years we the rise of MTV and pop culture which basicly stipulates you trust the TV more than your friends or neighbors, and an increased security apparatus to weed out any complainers.

    There has been the Tea Party, and Occupy Wall Street. Both have been infiltrated by same cops for same reasons. If they weren’t absolutely pushovers in a physical sense, and did as much as raise a single fist in resistance they’d be sharing seats next to all the bikers in federal prison on the same charges. You can type “occupy wall street” into youtube and you see the same police action when one side is almost comically not ABLE to fight back.(regardless of what you think of their politics).

  9. GREENEYES Says:

    DEAR REBEL,
    GOTCHA!!!! AND,I KNOW!! AND I WILL DEFF STAY IN TOUCH!! HAVE A GREAT WEEKENED. ;)

  10. Rebel Says:

    Dear Greeneyez,

    Relax. I know about it. I know you are stressed. I am not giving up on the story. I understand thatyour husband and what looks to me like a dozen Pagans have been screwed over royally. It is a tough story to uncover but I am not going to give up on it or those guys. I will write more as soon as there is some news or I learn something new.

    Stay in touch. I want you to remember that I don’t really right many wrongs. I am just some guy with a keyboard. But I do intend to take a little run at it.

    Enjoy your weekend,

    Rebel

  11. GREENEYEZ Says:

    DEAR REBEL
    OK :/
    IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH ANYTHING PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME
    I”LL DO MY BEST TO GET YOU EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THIS STORY. I’LL TELL MY HUSBAND TO GET ON HIS LAWYER TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU..IT WILL GET DONE ;)
    I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING/READING MORE ABOUT THIS CASE AS IT IS…COMANCHE’S LIFE THAT WAS PUT ON HOLD..
    THANK YOU

    COMANCHE 1%ER/ WIFE GREENEYEZ

  12. Rebel Says:

    Dear Martin 1%,

    Thank you for your kind words. I do try to stick up for guys most of the time.

    Rebel

  13. Martin 1% Says:

    Rebel,
    Keep up the great work !! Hope it makes you feel better that the lawyers in the W. Va. indictment , were reading your articles constantly. My lawyer had asked me if I knew you personaly . I told him I didn’t but you are the only writer that I’ve ever read ,who tells it like it is !!

  14. Rebel Says:

    Dear Greeneyes,

    There will be more, better stories about this case. It is complicated and I had to get something on the record as a frame of reference. I can’t get any lawyers to return my calls, by the way. I get so tired sometimes of having to call lawyers motherfucker before they start to take me seriously. I am sure that little habit is going to bite me in the ass soon.

    Rebel

  15. GREENEYES Says:

    THANX REBEL!!!! ;) AND ONCE AGAIN…GREAT JOB ON THE STORY!!

  16. RVN69 Says:

    Junior,
    Who shit in your cheerios?

  17. KK Says:

    Junior: Give respect & you get respect. I’ll pass on your request.

    Have a better day

    KK

  18. Junior Says:

    KK: Suck my *ick. No respect.

    Shyster: you are right on but unfortunately it always boils down to conservative vs. liberal, and both have proven that they can not guard the hen house. Junior

  19. Rebel Says:

    Dear Greeneyes,

    The sentence that offends you has been deleted.

    Rebel

  20. RVN69 Says:

    Junior,
    You are right, nothing good would come from rewriting our constitution, our only hope would be that judges would actually enforce it as written, but they usually interpret it to support to whatever action they want to take. Original Intent has been forgotten, or worse claimed to not be relevant anymore. I find it chilling that reporters for the Washington Post and NY Times have said that the constitution is no longer relavant and should be ignored.

    Glenn S.
    I not saying the the war on drugs was a positive for the constitution, but the dissasembly of it started long before then, the creation of the Fed, the wiskey tax, FDR using the 10th amendment to limit the amount of grain a farmer grew on his own land to name a few. The type of people drawn to politics are also the type of people who do not want limitations on their power, the current occupant of the white house is an outstanding example “The constitution is an impediment to good government” one of his favorite statements of mine.

    Rashomon,
    Sled Tramp is right on, a dog is the only thing in life that loves you more than it loves itself.

  21. sled tramp Says:

    Rashomon-
    Sorry about your dawg.A man’s relationship with his dawg is the only truly honest relationship he’ll ever have.

  22. Rashomon Says:

    @Junior – your response was probably warranted. What I’d meant to say was something to the effect that we should really adhere to the 6th amendment regarding the right to a speedy trial rather than leaving people to rot in jail for years but I had a brain fart and fucked the whole thing up. A lot of people have fought and died defending our way of life and the Constitution is a key part of that. When I re-read what I’d written, I asked Rebel to remove it and he did because it was a complete crock of shit.

    I just haven’t bee right since the dog died on Monday – I’ll stay away from the keyboard.

  23. GREENEYES Says:

    REBEL IM SURE U WONT POST THIS. BUT I GET ALOT OF INBOXES AND CALLS,I WAS HOPIN U WOULDA WRITTEN COMANCHE FIRST BFORE WRITING THIS. I AM NOT THE GIRL FROM THAT PARTY. THERE WAS A LOT OF FEMALES THERE AND THE FEDS ENDED UP SAYIN IT WAS HIS OL’LADY. U HAVE STATED THAT SAME GIRL FROM AFFIDAVIT WASNT CHARGED BUT HER HOUSE SHE SHARED WITH COMANCHE WAS RANSACKED. IF U WOULD HAVE ASKED HIM FIRST,IT WOULD BE CLEAR THAT FEDS SAID “ONE OF COMANCHES OL’LADYS” CUZ THATS WHAT THEY CLAIM,WAS ON THE PARTY CUZ WHEN THEY RAIDED HERE,THEY LOOKED SHOCKED THAT IT WASNT”ME”ON THAT PARTY. IM GETTIN CALLS/INBOXES ABOUT WHY WASNT I CHARGED? CUZ I WAS NEVER ON THAT PARTY! THATS WHY. CAN U PLS TRY FIXING THAT ERROR SO THESE PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND? EVERYTHIN ELSE IS GREAT BUT I AM NOT THE GIRL FROM THE PARTY,BUT THEY DID RAID HERE. THANX MUCH APPRICIATED

  24. Glenn S. Says:

    Junior, the reason the control freaks and the law and order types win all the time is that they are disciplined, they stay on message, and they don’t fight amongst themselves. They carefully measure every word they say, and they plan far ahead. We, on the other hand, get pissed and shoot one another. I am not exempting myself from that criticism.

    If the energy expended on fighting amongst ourselves could only be directed to the real ememy…

  25. Glenn S. Says:

    Shyster is right. We need a different Supreme Court. The constitution has become irrelavant, but that’s because the citizens have voted for politicians that don’t give a shit about freedom. The constitution is not the problem, the citizens are. They’ve been manipulated, but they have allowed their minds to grow so weak that such a thing could happen.

    Ever since that cunt Nancy Reagan decided she needed a social cause, and her and her husband started the War on Drugs, the sheep went right along with the re-definition of rights. The constitution doesn’t need to be re-written, it needs to be enforced with the same zeal they enforce the laws against casual pot smoking, petty theft, and failure to pay child support.

    But hey, rest assured, they are trying hard to reform the court system. So some poor loser that got the wrong leg amputated can’t sue for malpractice and get rich. Meanwhile, the list of offenses that carry life without parole grows, as does the willingness of the citizens to find every defendant guilty.

    Re-write the constitution? Play that tape all the way through. Start with imagining just who would sit at the table of a constitutional convention, and what their agenda would be.

  26. KK Says:

    Junior: Rashomon: “why dont you take a long walk off of a short plank, but make sure you’ve got plenty of cinder blocks attached to your ankles when you do, u pinko fag, shut the fuck up and actually read and study that document you would so easily dispense of. You fucking piss me off.”

    Instead of attacking Rashomon with your mean spirited drivel why don’t you ask him/her to explain thier post before you go off with your name calling BS? I enjoy this site, we all have differences of opinions & I learn from the those differences regardless of who you support.

    Is that what you honestly need to resort to, to get your point across Junior? You have some valid points, how about a discussion on the site? Don’t we have enough hostility out here. The other day you posted you were having a bad day, what’s the excuse today?

    KK

  27. GREENEYES Says:

    AND ALSO I WAS NEVER PRESENT AT THE BIRTHDAY PARTY,SO THATS HOW MUCH THIS SHOWS HOW MESSED UP THE CASE REALLY IS!! I HOPE THIS GOES PUBLIC!! I HOPE I GET TO LAUGH IN THE FEDS FACE ONE DAY!! THIS FEELS LIKE DEATH!! THE “NOT KNOWING” AND FUNNY HOW THEY STILL THINK THEY HAVE A GREAT CASE!! THESE PIECES OF SHIT NEEDS TO ROT IN HELL!! SORRY,JUST FRUSTRATED!!
    ONCE AGAIN THANK U REBEL FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEARTS! MAY GOD BE WITH U AND URS!! THANK U BRO!! :)

  28. ruffrider Says:

    *Shyster

    Right on

    rr

  29. GREENEYES Says:

    MANY THANKS TO REBEL FOR PUBLISHING THIS ARTICLE!!!! MY HUSBAND IS SENDING HIS ‘OVE AND RESPECT AND MANY THANKS UR WAY!! THANK U FOR THE HELP!!
    THANK U ALL FOR UR SUPPORT!! THANK U STEVO,U R OUR FRIEND AS WELL BROTHER!!
    GOD BLESS U ALL!!
    MLL&R COMANCHE’S WIFE….GREENEYES

  30. Shyster Says:

    Junior and Rashomon,

    What is needed is United States Supreme Court Justices that know how to interpret the Supreme Law of the Land.

    Shyster

  31. rollinnorth Says:

    Note to self. Look up prior post about how to deal with troll. Something about ignoring it.

    Rebel,
    Thanks for bringing up “Operation On The Road Again.” One more sad example of how out of control Fed LEO are, and how poorly the “justice system” is dealing with it.
    Like Bob Marley say, “Don’t give up the fight.”
    Respect.

  32. Junior Says:

    I read past your first sentence, I read your whole post three times. Got 3 words for you: “14th amendment”, “New Deal” and “Federal Reserve Act”. If you don’t understand the connection between the 3 then study more. Clue: they are the means by which our existing Constitution has been rendered useless. I have a hard enough time explaining it to some lawyers i’ve spoken with in the past, not because i’m some expert, it’s probably because Constitutional classes are no longer required by law schools as a requirement for JD. I’ve done my homework and don’t need to converse with you or anyone else about the Constitution.

  33. Rebel Says:

    Dear Junior,

    The post was removed at Roshomon’s request. He thought his post was “out of line.”

    Rebel

  34. rollinnorth Says:

    Ho-tay, Junior.
    Rashomon said you didn’t read his post carefully. Apparently you didn’t read past the first line of mine.
    I happen to spend a lot of time dealing with the Constitution and take any opportunity to defend it. We could have had an interesting discussion about this fundamental document.
    Enjoy being pissed off.

  35. Junior Says:

    The mere suggestion that out Constitution be re-written upsets me greatly. See, Ive read the Constitution, I’ve re-read the Constitution. I’ve conversed with ATTORNeys about the Constitution, and over the years I have come to realize the great wisdom that is in the Constitution. So to hear someone suggest that we re-write it pisses me off greatly. And you, telling me to “chill out” cuz I’m raising hell at some idiot that suggested we re-write the Constitution tells me that you have no appreciation for the wisdom enshrined in the U.S. Constitution either.
    Good luck in your future clueless endeavors jackass.

  36. rollinnorth Says:

    Junior, chill out.
    Amending the Federal Constitution or any State Constitution is a difficult process, as it should be.
    You’re right that some would prefer to ignore the blueprint for our government. The problem is compounded since “the apathetic masses of zombified citizen(s)” do NOT vote. They just wander along whining.
    All is not lost. Some of us are still awake and keeping ready. Fortunately, we have Rebel keeping the info flowing.
    Respect.

    PS Take your own advice, “you really should quit smoking that crack, its beginning to show.”

  37. Junior Says:

    All readers:

    Rashomon is a poster to this site that suggested in a post that the US Constitution be re-written. As you can plainly see, that post was removed by the site owner and now it unfortunately looks like I went off on Rashomon for absolutely no reason. I’m saddened and surprised that no one else on this site went off on him before I did. I suggest to all that you read and know the US Constitution like you know the backside of the hand you masterbate with. What damn good are you if you don’t know the law of the land in which you roam. Rebel:Please please replace Rashomons post so all this makes sense to readers. Junior

  38. Junior Says:

    Rebel:

    Please replace Rashomons post, without it I look like a fool bitchin about something that was never written.

  39. RVN69 Says:

    Nihilist Says:Can we call the ATF the WTF? That’s as good a name for them as anything. Randy Weaver, the Branch Davidians, all the grief they have caused Motorcycle clubs. Worthless bastards have a higher body count than some military units.
    My sincere condolences to all the members of both clubs and their families caught up in this federal persecution. The last time we saw something like this was in Salem, Mass. in 1688.

    Respects to the Pagan’s MC and the Mongols MC

    Potius Mori Quam Foedare

  40. Nihilist Says:

    Can we call the ATF the WTF? Maybe that’s why they’ve shifted to BATFE. I’ve heard it annoys them to say it like a word, rather than all the letters…

    The “grenade” was made at the request of one of the UC agents?? He must have gotten his inspiration from the agent who persuaded Randy Weaver to saw off the barrel of a shotgun & sell it to him. Classic WTF Gotcha! moment.

    Thanks for the coverage of this, Rebel. It seems the newspapers had to parcel it out with a healthy dose of lies and fear to keep us easy in the harness.

  41. Rashomon Says:

    @Junior – I didn’t mean to imply there was anything wrong with the constitution nor do I have any issue with it. My point was that we have to do something to fix the shit we live with. Re-reading the post it was probably ill conceived so maybe Rebel can pull it.

    Thanks.

  42. Junior Says:

    Rashomon:

    When was the last time you read the entire U.S. Constitution? If you believe that that document needs to somehow be re-written then I believe you are an idiot who can’t read something, understand it and then explain or summarize it to others in basic form. What part would you re-write? The part about freedom of and from religion? or maybe the part about the states being sovereign over the federal govt? …Our country is so fucked up now because the Constitution is ignored, how will re-writing it make it be respected? The more i re-read the bullshit you wrote, the more pissed off I get. Rashomon: why dont you take a long walk off of a short plank, but make sure you’ve got plenty of cinder blocks attached to your ankles when you do, u pinko fag, shut the fuck up and actually read and study that document you would so easily dispense of. You fucking piss me off.

  43. Junior Says:

    Re-writing the Constitution? Are you fucking serious? Re-writing a document that the courts and government ignore already will accomplish NOTHING but making our present situation worse. If it did get re-written who do you think would influence the new Constitution the most? The sheeple? Average freedom loving folks who refuse to be citizen subjects? NO, the present ruling class would make sure that it was written to their advantage and the international bankers and currency controllers would make sure the good ‘ol USA was nothing more than a MATRIX. Rashomon, you really should quit smoking that crack, its beginning to show. Re-write the Constitution! jeez, I ‘ve heard it ALL now.

  44. KK Says:

    Stevo1%: I feel for Commanche & family , plenty of other 16’s & family & other clubs going thru the same lying bs these feds come up with. Jobs lost,houses sold, no income coming in to support thier families. Makes me so angry.

    Roadblock gets in a fight & couple of bikers throw some punches & beat the hell out of each other, then all of a sudden it’s an international gang conspiracy.

    Reminds me of the same bs when Bart was busted for raffle tickets, Blackhawk helicopters flying over his place. Talk about fuckin overkill.

    “Jason Nark’s story in the Philadelphia Daily News” What a perfect name to sensationalize us bikers, is that really his name, damn.

    Rebel, If this case is named after JR , is that just misspelled by the state: United States v. Ebeleing et al. Thanks

    KK

  45. JIM666 Says:

    this is, as is all of these uc infiltration set ups by abc gangs, complete bullshit, all of these men deserve a fast and speedy trial,and we see they didnt get that, where,s there bbond hearing,s??? F.T.F. F.T.P. F.T.A.T.F. F.T.F.B.I. F.T.D.E.A.

  46. Glenn S. Says:

    I agree, Junior. But 80% of the sheep that don’t trust government still allow themselves to be herded right towards the slaughterhouse, hoping only that the other sheep will get slaughtered and they will somehow win the Sheep of the Year award and get a pass. And the politicians and the power behind them? They prattle on about reforming the civil court system with “tort reform”. Nevermind that what they are saying is that the courts can’t be trusted to properly award monies in a lawsuit but they can be trusted to deprive someone of their freedom and life.

    It would take something more like V for Vendetta than Ron Paul. (And will probably take things getting that bad.) The sheep are too stuck in obedience and blissful ignorance. But then again, I remember what Pink Floyd said about sheep:

    “Bleeting and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream;
    Wave upon wave of demented avengers marched cheerfully out of obscurity into a dream;
    Have you heard the news?
    The dogs are dead.
    You better stay home and do what your told;
    Stay out of the road, if you want to grow old.”

  47. Junior Says:

    Huffingtonpost.com. says 80% of americans don’t trust government. Sounds to me like a good time for a ballsy leader to stand the fuck up & call for revolt. Come on Rep. Paul, grab your old wrinkled balls & do something that’ll really change this country. 80%!!! WTF?

  48. Junior Says:

    Who are the criminals here? Kind of hard to tell. …if there are criminals on both sides of this, then who’s policing the ATF? O, that’s right, the apathetic masses of zombified citizen voters are policing the ATF, whew! Im glad all the citizen voters got things under control, I almost got worried there for a minute.

  49. Stevo Onepercenter Says:

    Motherfuckers. Commanche and his old lady are friends of mine, these pig SCUM have dragged their young kids through hell. May the ATF and their ilk all die the death of a thousand karate chops.

  50. Phuquehed Says:

    Our fucktard’s in government at work, doing what they do best – nothing right, nothing judiciously fair, nothing showing any of them have a rat turd sized brain or better.

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