January 18, 2012

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If you surf the web, you have probably noticed today that numerous high profile sites including Google, Wikipedia, EBay, Facebook, Yahoo and the Electronic Frontier Foundation are protesting two proposed laws called SOPA and PIPA. If you have found anything on this site that is informative, interesting or amusing you should know what these laws are about.

SOPA is a stupid acronym for the Stop Online Piracy Act. PIPA means Protect Intellectual Property Act. Both laws are designed to allow the federal government to treat this site the way the Red Chinese treat sites like this one.

The stated goals of these bills include: “To Promote prosperity, creativity, entrepreneurship, and innovation by combating the theft of U.S. Property, and for other purposes;” and, “To prevent online threats to economic creativity and theft of intellectual property, and for other purposes.”

The intellectual property rights these new laws propose to protect are already protected under an existing federal law called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act or DMCA. That law allows authors and artists to protect the kind of unique and original work that appears on this page.

SOPA and PIPA go beyond that. These new laws would create a federal Bureau of Intellectual Property Enforcement. That Bureau will have the authority to order web service providers to remove offending sites without notice. The “crimes” that will literally make sites disappear overnight include copyright infringement and being a site that “poses a threat to national security.” The new bureaucracy will also be able to shut down sites without notice for unspecified “other purposes.”

The effect of the two laws will be to create a federal department of internet censorship.

The Aging Rebel opposes these laws and urges readers to oppose them, too.




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33 Responses to “SOPA And PIPA”

  1. Philo Says:

    moderated again?? FFS Rebel if you don’t want me around just say so…:P


  2. Philo Says:

    Yeaaahhhh..I don’t want to get way of in conspiracy land; reality can be disappointing enough on its own. But, the reason we left the “Gold Standard” in a nut shell is because we became much more involved in foreign commerce and the global market.
    Gold standards only work if every participating nation uses them in accordance with each other nation. Since gold isn’t equally distributed, and not all nations have relatively equal amounts, all nations don’t. So what happens is that the nations with the little gold simply trade their currency in nations with lots of gold, and remove their deposits in the form of the host countries gold. This is what happened to the US, and is the reason why the US left the gold standard. Most of the other nations we dealt with only used it to trade our gold for their paper money…


    Oh, and SOPA/PIPA aren’t dead. Just a heads-up. I’m reading that the core amendments will be back soon, under different names. So keep your eyes and ears open.

  3. Junior Says:

    We gave our (united states) currency to Baron Rothschild & others in December 1913, legislation like SOPA/PIPA is the result of our own failure to sustain ourselves. I say pass SOPA/PIPA,,,doing so makes the average Joe Citizen sicker of government and brings us all closer to real change. Revolt is the only way to change this country now. Voting wont do it, those who count the votes wont let it, those who count the votes and those who control our currency will NEVER allow a candidate like Ron Paul to become elected. The last person to try and free the u.s. from the grip of the international bankers (rothschilds, warburgs etc.) was JFK. He was printing “United States Notes”, that were actually backed by gold or silver deposits into ft. knox, in denominations of 2 and 5 and planned to simply declare the “Federal Reserve Note” null and void once he had enough “United States Notes” in circulation, but we all know where that got him.

  4. Bud Says:


    I find the timing of this raid to be quite interesting. Even though SOPA/PIPA was stopped for now, it was made public knowledge on a world wide scale and now with this clown being raided our lovely guvmint can now use it as propaganda…”Look, see WHY we need SOPA”?
    And just my opinion, but I also see this as becoming part of the bigger “Internet Kill Switch” plan. Much like the NDAA, which I have no doubt can and will be used against the “biker menace”, as the feds put it, will be used as a tool in lieu of politicians being able to come up with any kind of immigration reform laws that none of them seem to wanna take a stand on. Just my opinion based on having too much time on my hands.


  5. Philo Says:


    Thanx for the link. Been following it as it unfolds. I heard the fat fuck that runs megaupload was found cowering in a safe room in his mansion with a sawed-off shotgun. lol

    Funny thing, one of the congressman form where I live just posted on facebook talking about how bad sopa/pipa is and how much he’s against it. About three posts down on his facebook wall is an older post from him talking about how important sopa/pipa is and how much he supports it! Fucking useless bastards every one…


  6. IRISHPUNK Says:

    The Internet was awarded a major victory Friday morning as Congress announced that they will indefinitely postpone voting on the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the Protect IP Act (PIPA). The win, while a major success viewed in the eyes of advocates for a free and open Internet, is for the meantime, however, only a momentary one. Lawmakers hope that revamped legislation will be penned while Congress considers finding a fair balance that will appeal to both the entertainment industry lobbying for stricter laws and its array of opponents, largely represented by Silicon Valley and the Web.

  7. Glenn S. Says:

    It would also mean the government could shut down sites like this one. Maybe Rebel writes a story about, let’s say, a certain ATF zealot or one of his paid rats that is going to be testifying for the prosecution in some sham trial. Suppose someone, anyone, maybe even someone on the ATF payroll, comments and includes quotes from one of the prosecution witnesses that was made on a TV talk show. Suppose that the words spoken on the talk show are characterized as intellectual property. Or suppose that the ATF claims that criticism of its efforts to rid the nation of motorcycle clubs threaten national security. I think we know how this law will be used.

  8. Phuquehed Says:

    It also means that it will give the fucking government the powers to tell us what we can and can’t find and use as educational…for instance – we still have the right and the ability to find, read and download ‘The Anarchist Cookbook’. With the new law(s) anyone who posts it on a website whether for educational purposes only or not, can be in trouble and anyone downloading it to read it will be in trouble too. That mean *anything* that some shit-stain in some government office decides they don’t like. Said shit-stain’s decisions could very well be based on their own judgement which could be so skewed by their religion or simply the way they were brought up, that if these laws pass we’ve literally moved into a socialist or even communist state.

    For someone in congress or the senate to even *think* about having laws like this is insane! Damn near every one of the fuckers needs to be run out on a rail and new put in and then *tell* them that they now get *one* term to do as the people they’re supposed to be representing want!

  9. ruffrider Says:

    Thanks. I’m starting to figger it out now. More sickening shit brought to you by Uncle Sam.

  10. Austin Says:

    I looked here – (Wiki is UP today)for more info

  11. Philo Says:


    SOPA?PIPA Are mhor federal initiatives to heavily regulate the internet. In short, it allows the fed to seize the domains of websites and shut them down without any due process. There is/was heavy bi-partisan support for the measures, (Democrat senator Chris Dodd is the guy behind sopa/pipa) but the backlash has caused many politicians to start to back away from the measures.

    Today the federal government shut down a popular file-sharing website called megaupload. The response was a massive DDoS (Distributed Denial of Service) attack against mutiple websites for org’s supporting sopa/pipa, as well as the department of justice and the fbi. These DDoS attacks resulted in the websites for those org’s being knocked offline. The story is still developing.


  12. Austin Says:

    No-One is safe from anything. “These new laws would create a federal Bureau of Intellectual Property Enforcement.” Just the thought of a new Federal Bureau of anything is terrifying. Wiki was asking people to write to their Congressmen/Representatives = The Blue Gang may win – but let’s not go quietly. I wrote & encouraged a few friends to do the same. It is totally depressing. I am going back to the Saloon and post something theraputic about Political Correctness.

  13. ruffrider Says:

    I don’t know what the hell you guys are talking about, so am I safe from fines and prosecution?

  14. Philo Says:

    I used to download music from limewire years ago, but got sic of pulling malware out of my PC. :P


  15. IRISHPUNK Says:

    sled tramp,

    Your right, it was just an example of how ridiculous this law could be. Hell I’ve never even downloaded a song let alone know how to do it.

  16. Philo Says:

    Beware following anonymous links on twitter. DO NOT click them:

    “The thing is, DDoSing is a criminal offense that could earn you 10 years in prison, if you do it intentionally. With previous versions of LOIC, participants had to acknowledge this risk and press a button labeled “fire.” But now, it appears some enterprising anonymous member has retooled it so that it automatically fires if you click an unassuming link and leave a window open.”


  17. sled tramp Says:

    “With SOPA, you could get 5 years for uploading a Michael Jackson song.”
    You SHOULD get 5 years for a crime against humanity and if anything qualifies,it’s a Michael Jackson song….

  18. IRISHPUNK Says:

    With SOPA, you could get 5 years for uploading a Michael Jackson song. The man who killed him got four.


    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
    Ephesians 6 v12 (The Holy Bible)

  20. RVN69 Says:

    In light of everything that is going on I found these quotes to be interesting.

    “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people,
    it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government
    — lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”

    – Patrick Henry

    “Give me control over
    a nation’s currency, and
    I care not who makes its laws.”

    – Baron Rothschild

    “The people who cast the votes don’t decide an election,
    the people who count the votes do.”

    – Joseph Stalin

    “Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.”

    – George Bernard Shaw

    “I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent
    the government from wasting the labors of the people
    under the pretense of taking care of them.”

    – Thomas Jefferson

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But,
    under the name of ‘liberalism,’ they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program,
    until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”

    – Norman Thomas (US Socialist Presidential Candidate)

    “What good fortune for governments that the people do not think.”

    – Adolf Hitler

    Potius Mori Quam Foedare

  21. Philo Says:


    I thought you wrote an article on fast & furious(?) but can’t find it. :/
    Anyways, just came across this and thought you guys would be interested.


  22. ncpagan Says:

    Best article on this that I’ve seen yet. Thank you again Rebel. I think Glenn is right. The writing is on the wall and now that our elected officials (better make that corporate lackeys) have found another way to enrich themselves, the internet of today is probably doomed. I’m signing everything I can find opposing this fiasco, and urging others to do the same. Anyway, we’re all probably fucked in the long run.

  23. RVN69 Says:

    Glen S,
    I wish our choices were that simple. We have on the one side a party that thinks that they need to control everything by government regulation, what we read, what we think, what we eat, how and what we drive. On the other side we have a party that thinks they need to control everything by locking everyone up. We really don’t have any choice at all anymore they are both equally bad, opposite sides of the same coin. Ron Paul would probably try to get government out of our lives, but his foreign policy would end up with us taking orders from China and begging Iran for our oil. Others may disagree. The Democratic Republic of the United States envisioned by the founding fathers no longer exists.

    Potius Mori Quam Fordare

  24. Glenn S. Says:

    What Sled Tramp and Irish Dragon said.

    Its my understanding that the bills’ sponsors have pulled out. But they’ll probably slip the more objectionable parts of the bill in unrelated legislation, some budgetary measure to fund a study on the mating habits of feral cats or somesuch. The government is working overtime to make sure that they can a) lock us up for any or no reason and b) we can’t communicate, en masse.

    Our election choices in Nevember: a pussy or Gordon Gekko.

  25. sled tramp Says:

    It’s very depressing to read all this stuff,I’m headed out to sit on my beloved sled,hold my inflatable girlfriend and rock back n’ forth….happy place….happy place….happy place…..

  26. IrishDragon Says:


    I’m with you on this. I’m completely opposed to these laws. If your site go’s down. I’ll gladly pay whatever subscription costs is necessary for the snail mail newsletter.


  27. Philo Says:

    What I find entertaining about this is that companies like Google, which are cool with heavy handed regulations, like net neutrality, are now crying foul. Also, I couldn’t help but notice this is a bi-partisan butt-fucking. While Troyez above is correct in that the liberal-fascists are all moist over sopa/pipa, there’s plenty of right-wingers behind it as well, (Mike Rogers for one comes to mind).

    Either way, this is going to happen. It doesn’t have to be sopa/pipa. The interwebz is to tempting a target for the powerful. They’ll get what they want through this, or find a way to get it through fiat. Best start scrubbing your hard drives now :/


  28. troyez Says:

    “The Aging Rebel opposes these laws and urges readers to oppose them, too.”

    Amen to that! Just today a handful of former supporters to the bill have dropped out (link included). The hard-line statists are still supporting it though (Chris Dodd, Al Franken, Dick Durbin). Let’s remember them come November, I sure will (I’ve never have and never will vote for Durbin, that SOB!).

    Your pal,

  29. C8652 Says:

    Well the upshot is that most every site (government, commercial and private) will get their plugs pulled as well given that no one agnecy can get along with the other. It’s the frenemies thing coupled with the neopotism thing.

    Guess I’ll have to get my library card turned back on.


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