Doc Cavazos Talks

November 4, 2011

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Ruben “Doc” Cavazos, the former President of the Mongols Motorcycle Club is eager to tell his side of the events which led to a massive federal racketeering case against his former club.

Cavazos complains that he has been prevented from talking for the last three years by Assistant United States Attorney Christopher Brunwin and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Special Agent John Ciccone. Ciccone supervised the Mongols investigation, which was later given the public relations title “Operation Black Rain.” Brunwin prosecuted the case.

Cavazos confirmed that he was sentenced to 14 years in prison en camera by Federal District Judge Otis D Wright, II at 10 a.m. on Thursday, September 8. En camera proceedings are secret court sessions held in a metaphorical “closet.” His son, Ruben “Lil Rubes” Cavazos was sentenced to 51 months imprisonment during the same secret proceeding. Cavazos characterized Wright as “an asshole.”

Getting The Story

Cavazos is currently incarcerated in a federal facility within 120 miles of Los Angeles. For practical reasons, The Aging Rebel has made the editorial decision not to name the facility. The Aging Rebel will also not disclose the means or methods used to conduct the interview except to say that it was clandestine, it was legal and it was carried out through multiple intermediaries. The conversation began, after Greg Risling of The Associated Press reported Doc’s sentence on September 14.

Cavazos has simultaneously been attempting to speak to Los Angeles Times reporter Victoria Kim. Kim, according to Cavazos, has been denied access to him by both the U.S. Marshall’s Service and by Brunwin.

Never Gave Anybody Up

Cavazos asserts that he was intimidated into signing a plea and sentencing agreement and agreeing to forfeit the Mongols collective membership mark by Special Agent Ciccone. According to Cavazos, Ciccone came to his cell and said he would “hang” his son if Cavazos refused to cooperate. Cavazos believes a video tape exists of that confrontation.

Cavazos also insists that he was sentenced to 14 years because he refused to cooperate with prosecutors after his son secured his plea deal. He believes his sentence would have been much lighter if he had cooperated.

Cavazos states he never substantially cooperated with authorities. He characterized the secrecy surrounding multiple plea deals in the case as a “sham” that was intended to intimidate other defendants in the case by making it appear he was cooperating. The former President said he “never gave anybody up.” Cavazos believes that if the defendants had “stuck together” they could have won the case.

According to Cavazos, he anticipated the roundup of Mongols in October 2008 by several weeks because he believed “they had divided us in two.”

Cavazos said he trademarked the name Mongols after San Diego chapter President Mike Munz trademarked the motto “Honor Few, Fear None.” The former Mongols President also blamed Munz for patching three ATF undercover agents into the club. The three agents were Gregory Giaoni, Paul D’Angelo and Darrin Kozlowski. According to Cavazos, Munz wanted to patch in the three federal policemen and administered lie detector tests to the three in San Diego in order to justify that decision. Cavazos said they were the only three Mongols patched in during his term as President who were administered lie detector tests.


Cavazos denied two assertions that have been reported by The Aging Rebel. According to Cavazos, he was never called “Disco Bunny” in the Avenues Street clique and he never used drugs.

Cavazos is segregated from other prisoners and he believes the segregation is intended to keep him from talking to reporters. He denies being in danger from the so-called Mexican Mafia. the Mongols or the Hells Angels. Cavazos believes that if he was allowed to talk he would be able to discredit many of the accusations made in the case named for him, US v. Cavazos et al.

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136 Responses to “Doc Cavazos Talks”

  1. 10Gauge Says:

    Doc Jones,

    Thank you for the kind words. To be clear, I am not associated with the Mongols MC and am speaking only for myself and meant only to point out what I saw to be an egregious oversite involving a word I have tattooed over my heart.

    Strength, Respect, Honor

  2. CHINGON Says:

    Mr.Doc Jones,
    Thanks for the kind words there, like I said the brotherhood is very intriguing and maybe im to old and better off on the sidelines now at my age, but its good to learn new things and understand different lifestyles, Since black rain ive been following the cases with the Mongols and for a reason the goverment or at least one agent has a hard on for them, well we will see what goes on with all this and even on other cases.
    Much Respect Doc and Gauge

  3. brian kelly richards Says:

    i love the hells angels mc id love to be a hells angel please let me be a brother brother my phone number is ***-***-****please ill do anything to be in breaking the law ill be very crazy ill hit the cops and i hate bandedos there a bunch of dildos haha lol

  4. brian kelly richards Says:


  5. Rebel Says:

    Dear Brian Kelly Richards,

    Geez. More Rebel censorship! Now I’m gonne have to hear about this! Don’t post phone numbers here again, dude. For all I know you are an ATF agent trying to get some guy beat or stabbed.


  6. sled tramp Says:

    Why is it Feds and teens are so alike…full of themselves and wanting to fuck everybody…..

  7. ruffrider Says:


    I think Brian Kelly Richards is a 13 year old with his dick in his hand.


  8. Brian Kelly Richards Says:

    I think “ruffrider” sounds pretty gay, myself.

  9. Not Surprised Says:

    I used to have a nike name too.

  10. Doc Jones Says:

    Dear Brian Kelly richards,

    The solution to your ambition of being a Hells Angel is simply to show up at their nearest club house and be yourself. If they run you off, keep coming back. Whatever you do, don’t ever give up your dream. Let us know on this site how it’s working for you.

    Doc Jones

  11. Rashomon Says:

    @Brian Kelly Richards,

    I’ve heard that wearing a sons of anarchy jacket with the patch on the back helps – just my two cents worth.

    Good luck.

  12. gusto Says:

    Lmfao,[email protected]

  13. YYZ Skinhead Says:

    Make sure the bottom rocker says “California”. Even better, wear the SOA cut on top of your SOA temporary back tattoo.

    YYZ Skinhead

  14. ruffrider Says:

    Dont forget your moped

  15. Grumbler Says:

    Unless you’re a fear-mongering fraud, Brain Kelly Richards, I’d recommend wearing a “NO FEAR” t-shirt with an attitude. LMFAO

  16. C8652 Says:

    I have seen some funny shit but that was hilar.. hillarious. Whetever. That was funny!


  17. Roy Buchanan Says:

    I am with Doc. Screw the haters, Brian. Live your dream. They are always interested in good new recruits.
    WTF is wrong with The Sons? They’re in a rough stretch right now, as are many, but I thought they were pretty solid in the past.

  18. willienelso3 Says:


  19. NoOneImportant Says:

    I don’t claim to be an expert in this field, however, it seems to me that the government has expended an awful lot of time and tax dollars doing a job for the Mongols MC that they, as a club, may end up benefiting from.

    Just from reading the little history and comments that are available online, it appears that the early days of that club were built on a group of people who found kin spirit with each other. Through the obviously violent confrontations with another club they might naturally have been forged in their “brotherhood” to one another and watched membership rise and fall on a small scale until, at a particular lull point, “Doc,” it seems, was able to take a relatively well formed group as a nucleus and build upon whatever the Mongols MC were, to create an organization which may or may not be criminal in nature, but which definitely seems to have made it easier for “Doc” to further his own personal and perhaps allegedly criminal interests. If I’m correct, than the government, by targeting “Doc” and the other interested parties which may have been added to the original organization, is cleaning the Mongols MC house and giving their club a chance to revert to its origins, (though I doubt they’ll ever shake the reputation in the eyes of the public, media, other clubs or government.)

    I suspect that, like the forest after the fire, the Mongols MC will not die but rather thrive and more healthily for the experience.

  20. chevyweight Says:

    Has any body ever suspected or had any reason to believe that doc was working with the feds before or during the investigation ? I don’t have any insight and this would be a conspiracy theory at best, and my appolagies if im disrespecting anyone by pondering ,, but to me the way it went down with the gangland episode followed by the AMW special followed by his book release seems like a publicity stunt. (feds seem to like to make their bust after an event happens ,such as the operation simple green going down right after the sparks incident, and feds like to have an excuse to justify their investigation, for example using Martin’s death as reason for the toonerville bust) Maybe doc got busted for something before the investigation and then started working with the feds to portray the club as a criminal orginization, by publicly talking about the the “war” with MM and recruiting the “part time” members, and portraying the image of a “hardcore” gang, also ignoring the suspicions other members had about the undercover agents … ?? Maybe I just have a hard time trusting a man with a clean cut and shave, but doc seems like the type who would have a brand new all black f150, and a darkblue suburban with tinted windows, as his primary transportation and maybe an OCC style chopper in the driveway rather than riding and wrenchin on an old panhead. Maybe it was just the downfall of a big ego or maybe it was something more?

  21. Big john Says:

    At least doc has been dealt with and is on blast.. Most informants don’t even get caught. For example ****** from the vagosmc. Who was just swept under the green rug of shame. Rather then dealt with.. This guy has been a confidential Informant for the very same agent. Ciccione. What a joke.

  22. Dave-O Says:

    Not a club guy, but on the subject of Cavazos, I’d say he is to the outlaw biker world what hair metal bands were to rock and roll-a cheap imitation of something genuine and original. I have read several books on the outlaw culture, which is about as far as my knowledge of the lifestyle goes, and I refused to actually pay money for Cavazos’s book after flipping through it. The interview’s he’s given were very self serving and quite frankly bullshit. Not that I would know as I am an outsider, but even an outsider can sense a bullshitter. While flipping through Cavazos’s book he makes several wild claims such as he saved the life of West Coast Choppers founder Jesse James after another Mongol wanted to kill him for having Hells Angels support gear in his shop. He consistently puts down Roger Piney throughout the book as if he’s trying to convince the reader, and himself, that he was a better choice for President than Pinney.

    All of these things give me the impression that the guy was exactly what I described, a cheap imitation, all the way down to the,in my opinion, cheesy over the top “chopper” he rode and bragged about in his interviews to the something, something, something square foot dozen room six bath house he tout’s in his book. He sounds and acts like someone who wishes they were Sonny Barger but is more like Mickey Rourke. A guy playing the part in hopes of convincing the main stream media he’s a legendary bad ass, while eventually being ripped apart and banished from the very place he hoped to build his legend by the very people he hoped to build it on. Kind of a bummer for Harper Collins books considering his expeltion from the club took place shortly after the release of his “auto-biography.”

    As far as whether or not he’s a snitch or not, it wouldn’t surprise me. He’d been expelled from the Mongols for allegedly stealing and causing conflict with organized crime groups and apparently turning the Mongols from a club into an organized crime group themselves. If he was indeed bringing street gang members into the club and giving them full colors despite them not even owning a motorcycle as has been alleged, he should have been thrown out much sooner as street gang members are the lowest form of life imaginable. Even outsiders consider people who run to the cops for a reduced sentence once caught with their hand in the cookie jar to be classless cowards. But what do I know, I just ride.

  23. wellness+ Says:

    I believe what The Mongols MC has posted on their web-page about Doc and his son Ruben Jr.

  24. JIM666 Says:

    RE: Dave O,s comment ‘I have read several books on the outlaw culture,” according to John C and the Federial Judicial system that makes you an expert on motorcycle clubs,

  25. Stevo Says:

    @ John C. You had the temerity to lecture a poster on spelling then made spelling and grammatical errors a-plenty yourself! Kinda reminds me of that scum sucking pus bag J Ciccone who frames people for lesser crimes than ‘he’ and his fellow sodomites commit. Can you spell hypoctite, John?

  26. Fuckdoc2 Says:

    You made my big bro get Locked up so Im coiming after your ass!!!

  27. TUCO Says:

    doc, you were a glory hound from jump street, you talked a good game but just like everyone out there with alot to say, always says alot when it comes to covering there ass.
    no worries, my tax dollars will be spent to keep you in pc with all the other rat finks, pedaphiles, pervs, and rapists. you are scum just like they are.
    i like how the MONGOLS bounced back. they seem to have gotten back to what its all about…. RIDING AND BROTHERHOOD.

  28. tiger m. Says:

    This guy Cavazos is a dud wanna be Biker! What real M.C. recruits cholo street gang members into there club? Cavazos himself was an L.A. street gangster. What did he wake up one morning and decide to become an outlaw biker? My former best friend was an Urban Cowboy, then a Disco king,then Joined the same M.C. as Cavazos.But before that was in an all black M.C.FOR A FEW YEARS! Real Bikers are BORN not made! AND NOT CHOLOS ON HARLEYS.

  29. Ruben Says:

    Well too answer all ur questions doc is not in PC and from the looks of it is doing fine and dandy I did a lil bit of time with him and u all hv no idea we’re he is and too comfort you all he’s doing fine and has no one to be scared of we’re he is @ but I can only tell u all its not in PC and he’s no going anywhere for at least seven yrs so if u all dnt hv ur stories right plz dnt guess at wat we’re and wen he’s doin

  30. hrenai Says:

    No one has any idea what Doc truly went through. How easy it is, for weak people to slam out slogans of the popular mob mentality. I don’t know Doc, although I would truly like to become his friend. I know what it’s like to be completely misunderstood.

    Its the people who stand strong, and who stand by their own belief system, and do things raw and pure, that get judged at face value by the masses.

    I have a strong belief that Doc is more authentic than most people could ever dare to be….. They have sequestered the man, his ideas, and his defense….so no one can hear his voice.

    It has always been my immediate reaction, to stand up, and step up for people who, for whatever reason, can’t be heard.. If this man were walking around, I doubt these comments would be made to his face. Doc would never “need” a person like me to have his back …. And he may not need it now… But damn, if I had something to say to straighten people out…. And I couldn’t get my message out…. I hope someone would have my back. Its what I would want people to do for me….

  31. Jay Dobbins Says:

    In an effort to get around the Fed’s outlawing the Mongols name and patch, the club has elected to change their name to ‘The Mongrels’. This way their women can still be referred to as ‘bitches’.

  32. Phuquehed Says:

    Jay’s butt-buddies must be ignoring him and he has to come here to try and stir up some shit to get attention.

    Back to being pivot man in the pigs’ circle-jerk, Jay…you do nothing but waste bandwidth here. Better yet, just kill yourself and stop wasting good air too.

  33. Budweiser Says:

    It’s Dobyns. At least spell it right.

  34. Bruka Says:

    I know Dobyns is a dumb piece of shit but i figured even he’d know how to spell his own name.

  35. rollinnorth Says:

    Merrily it trolls along, trolls along, trolls along…

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