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Real Kurt Sutter Stands Up

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Real Kurt Sutter Stands Up

There was a popular television show in the mid-fifties called To Tell The Truth. Someone who was vaguely famous and two utter imposters would try to outsmart a four person panel. At the beginning of each round the three guests would rise and announce something like:

“I am Kurt Sutter.”

“No, I am Kurt Sutter.”

“No, in fact, I am the real Kurt Sutter.”

Epic Fail

Obviously, I would have epically failed at being a panelist on that game show. I have been told a comment I attributed to Kurt Sutter and wrote about on this page was not made by Kurt Sutter. I have been told this by someone who assures me he is Kurt Sutter.

Early in the evening of March 13th, a Saturday, as I was about to get my scotch on, I noticed a comment from suckmydick@sutterink.com to which it was easy to reply. And, I like easy. Some days writing is hard.

Someone who claimed to be Kurt Sutter, the show runner for the Fox Television show Sons of Anarchy took time to offer me some constructive criticism. I have been very critical of Sons of Anarchy and for a week or so before I got this comment there had been a little debate going on about whether Kurt Sutter or Rebel was the bigger phony.

The comment ended with this challenge: “I will be in Cave Creek again in April. You have something to say to me, grow a fucking dick and say it to my face. And this invite goes to your pack of delusional commentators. You wanna air your gripes, show me what a real fucking biker is, then come on down.”

How Half-Assed

I presumed this commentator was Kurt Sutter. It was a hasty decision. It was a quickly written post. I was in a hurry. I need to tell you that I was wrong but I was not completely half-assed. At least I was not as half-assed as I might appear to be.

The post referred to Sutter’s blog, Sutter Ink. Previous comments to this page and emails have come from anonymous writers at the SOA writer’s room. And I was quickly able to see that Sutter was online at the time the comment was sent to this site. Sutter posted to both his blog and to his Facebook page between 5:30 pm and 7:30 pm that evening. Specifically, Sutter posted:

“I’ve been very negligent about my blogging lately. Facebook and Twitter are so much easier. And more than often, dangerous. Me with an instant venting source is not a good thing. My passions tend to get me in hot water. I recently Twittered about losing an editor to Frank Darabont and basically called Frank a cunt. Although the move was a shitty one (poaching staff), it probably didn’t help my career any lashing out at Mr. Shawshank. Add another amends to the list.”

The comment to this page came from an Internet Protocol address in Los Angeles that had never commented on the page before. The address is 76.166.235.254 and that is a Road Runner high speed account. Which is to say it is probably a residential or small business account in West El Lay. And I thought, “Until then, little men. Blow me,” sounded like something Kurt Sutter would say.

Friends Clear Up Misunderstanding

But Sutter contacted me last night to tell me that the original comment was not his. I am pretty sure that this is the real Kurt Sutter but as I already said, I would have been lousy at this game.

Sutter explained that a member of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club had just brought to his attention the spurious comment I attributed to him. Sutter called the comment, “angry, potent stuff. But alas, not mine.”

Sutter went on to explain that he was “not sure if it was someone associated with the show who posted my name and erroneous email or just a rabid fan, but it wasn’t me, my friend. After numerous death threats and near-beatings I keep my rantings to my own blog, Facebook and Twitter where other folks can monitor and document the behavior.”

Sutter also confided that, “Between you and I, I’d like to believe that I could muster up a better rejection of your opinions than ‘blow me.’ Although, perhaps not.”

And Be Sure To Stay Tuned For

The event the anti-Sutter referred to in his challenge is a poker run in honor of Sonny Barger on April 18. Sign in at the Steel Horse Saloon before 11 am. The party is at the Buffalo Chip Saloon in Cave Creek.

The real Sutter may be there. I do not know. I just don’t know anymore. I get dizzy when I think about it too much.

The poker run is on the final day of Arizona Bike Week.

So if you go, and you see Kurt Sutter there, and you are pretty sure it is the real Kurt Sutter, please give him a big kiss for me.

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35 Comments For This Post

  1. BigV Says:

    Well slap my ass and call me Charlie.

  2. Grumbler Says:

    It was probably Ciccone masquerading as Sutter.

  3. RVN69 Says:

    Fuck him, he is still a make believe asshole who thinks he knows something about our life because he writes and acts in a tv show about it.
    Respect to all that have earned it.
    Si vis Pacem,Parabellum.

  4. Rebel Says:

    Dear Grumbler,

    I would not exactly be shocked.

    Rebel

  5. Snow Says:

    Well ain’t this the shit, I stand by my first post either way.

  6. Reality King Says:

    “We are the World, we are the children…”

  7. pretjah Says:

    nice too see two people who’s media outlets i enjoy able to act like civilized respectable humans.

    Rebel it takes alot to post a full correction of a previous blog entry(not that it was your fault at all) my respect for you has grown!

  8. Bud Says:

    Or could have been Sutter all along, just after finding out about all that was written here members of the 81’s told him to get this shit straightened out before the run and now hes back peddling doin danage control.
    Ya never know for sure til you can look someone in the face.

    Rebel, I used to watch that show to tell the truth I loved that one the celebrity panel was always there smokin and drinkin and gettin hammered…..ahhhh the good ol days

    Bud

  9. Marine Rider Says:

    Ahhhh……the internet. Where the 18 year old hot girl pics are posted by a 30 year old dude trying to steal your identity. Be careful out there!

  10. Chief stuck in Afghanistan Says:

    Rebel,

    I have been reading your blog for a while now and I absolutely enjoy every minute of it. I can’t ride right now as my name states so I love to be able to at least read the stories and keep up with the news back in the world.

    In regards to Mr. Sutter, if it was Mr. Sutter, at least he felt the need to try to rectify the situation. I know that if somebody were posing as me and did some shit like that there would be a pine box in their near future. IF he really buys into his own bullshit that he puts on Biker 90210 then he will eventually be put in his place. The American public is very fickle and this enamorement that they have with this show will not last forever. He will move on to other things and he will fade out of the culture like a bad dream. As far as his egomania is concerned, what Hollywood wanker isn’t one? He just so happens to have a show that has bikes in it. I won’t say biker drama because the bikes are setpieces as opposed to actually integral to the story. I won’t lie, I watch the show, it is great escapism. If I want to see real life, I turn off the idiot box and go experience it in all its glory.

    One last thing and then I’m off my soapbox. After having grown up around the culture, We have seen things far worse than this happen and not only survived but thrived. As for KS, fuck him if he can’t take constructive criticism.

    Chief

  11. Detroit Dutch Says:

    Is the run in Cave Creek for the real Sonny?

    Or is it for the guy who claims to be Sonny’s son?

    Will the real Sonny please stand up?

    Oh relax 81’s, this is Dutch, use to live across the street from Sonny in East Oakland. If he read this he’d be the first one to laugh.

  12. Detroit Dutch Says:

    there was a huge accident in Phoenix

    10 bikes involved

    they estimate 5 bikers dead

    out by Cave Creek

    respects to those who lost their lives

  13. Grumbler Says:

    Word has it that the dump truck driver was shuffling papers prior to the collision on Carefree Hwy at 27th. Saw the video. Looked like a carnageway.

    It gave me a sudden flashback to another accident on Mormon Emigrant Trail some 5 miles east of Jenkinson Lake. That’s in El Dorado County.

    Sept 2nd, 1989: A 1-ton flatbed truck filled with firewood crashed into the first 2 bikers in a pack of about 3 dozen motorcycles. It flipped over taking out 4 more riders. The large load of firewood spilled out, causing another 4 bikes to go down. Truck caught on fire, and after it was over, 5 bikers were dead.

  14. troyez Says:

    Details on the wreck:
    http://www.kpho.com/news/22956828/detail.html#

    http://www.kpho.com/video/22958978/index.html

    Please pray for the families/loved ones of those killed, and for the survivors. What a tragic accident. Pray.

  15. JAMES Says:

    REBEL, whether it was SUTTER or not I feel you reacted as a human being, right or wrong if it wasn’t SUTTER it still had HENHOUSE WAYS of provoking an argument, and I will stand by my post, since I believe his HIT SHOW no matter how you cut it makes all CLUBS or bikers in general look bad in the public eye thus not helping but doing more to harm us, the average citizen who may have JURY DUTY coming up might want to watch SOA just to figure they may get some insight as to what CLUBS and bikers are about, very false impression in my book, and I would wish to see him before each show state that these episodes are merely actors doing nothing else but make believe and not to think this is how all CLUBS and bikers make it in real life, or something along those lines, thanks for your honesty and keep up your postings as I said before you have the best on the net so far.

  16. 10Guage Says:

    Grumbler,

    If we are talking about the same accident their is a shrine to those who lost their lives up the side of a hill off of the highway. You would have to know where it is to find it. Terrible tragedy. Stay safe out there and if we ever cross paths I will be the first to buy.
    Strength, Respect, Honor, Resilience
    10Guage

    Truckers,
    I know there are many responsible truckers out there (I have had more than a couple of road partners who drove truck) I also know similar to us you all are a self policing group of individuals. Keep the other dipshits in line. You know who they are. Tell them to pay attention and triple check their tie downs. And we will make sure our D cells don’t accidentally fall out of our tool rolls. I don’t know how it is out their but in California its like mad max, death race and road warrior. Especially with these seasonal shit heads. Prior to the evo craze there was always animosity between us and them. Few years ago a truck ran a guy down on the off ramp. They had to dig him out of the grill. Terrible.
    Sincerely Yours,
    Another friendly chain swinging biker

  17. Grumbler Says:

    10Guage – it’s the same accident. We had a group ride on that road back in June 1996. Ironically, one rider was stung in neck by a bee, and pulled over just below the hill with the memorial.

    There was an article about the shrine printed in Thunder Press (http://www.mcguiresplace.net/Old%20Time%20Stories-Mysterious%20Roadside%20Shrine/).

    We could slam cold ones at the Luberoom Saloon in Dorrington if our paths cross. Cool place. Liked the Cutthroat Saloon in Markleeville until it was sold and remodeled.

    I also recall the biker vs trucker road rage incident. It was in the Central Valley. The trucker rammed the biker while he was stopped on the freeway off-ramp. He lost his leg.

    Yeah, the major California metro regions like LA Basin, SF Bay Area, Sacramento Valley are too congested which results in more road rage episodes. Almost like putting too many rats in a cage which causes them to fight each other off. Once out of the populated areas like in Humboldt County or Alpine County, for example, it’s a great place to ride.

  18. Grumbler Says:

    10Guage – FYI: After 16 months in Stanislaus County Jail, Turlock truck driver John Fagundes, accused of using his big rig to run down Stockton motorcyclist Michael McLatchy (whose right leg was severed in the crash), was acquitted of attempted murder and aggravated mayhem in the July 5, 2000 incident.

    The felony assault charge was resolved on December 5, 2001, by plea to the lesser charge of hit and run, with no further jail time.

    The California Highway Patrol had called it a 20-mile long case of road rage on Highway 99. Fagundes was accused of deliberately ramming McLatchy as the motorcyclist exited Highway 99 at the Standiford Avenue-Beckwith Road offramp in Modesto.

  19. YYZ Skinhead Says:

    Grumbler,

    That just proves that it’s still de facto legal to kill and maim bikers as long as the killer isn’t another biker. If a man rides a motorcycle, it means his life isn’t worth as much to the courts as a cager’s or trucker’s.

    YYZ Skinhead

  20. 10Guage Says:

    Grumbler,

    That bullshit does not surprise me at all. I’m surprised they didn’t charge McClatchy with failure to yield to merging traffice. Rediculous.
    Of course I would never advocate violence especially on the internet. Having him OUT of prison is a good place for him. There is a better chance for him to learn his leason. That is exactly where I would want him to be. I would not speak for another man but I imagine McClatchy would not mind having the opportunity to meet him again. My great uncle lost his leg in a logging accident and was one of the first para-olimpic skiing atheletes and certainly could handle himself like all men should. Better keep on truckin.

    I really dig Markleyville. HWY 88 and over to 4 is one of my favorite rides in California. That little masquito lake up at the top of the pass there is a great place for a stop and a dip in the summer. It’s beautiful up there.

    Strength, Respect, Honor,
    10Guage

  21. Mikonos Says:

    I don’t believe for one minute that Kurt Sutter isn’t the author of the post. He was online, IP is near his home, the style of the email was identical to his blogs and tweets.

    I do believe the 81 asked him about it, and he pussied out.

    He loves talking about death threats and near beat downs. While I don’t think he wants to die I believe he genuinely wants a beat down for cred. Imagine the publicity he and the show would get for that. He would be this Hollywood hero lionized for his courage in telling the gritty story of the unseamly biker underworld and putting himself at personal risk for it.

    While it would be wonderful feeling to plant ones fist on the shiny implants of one of the biggiest phonies out there I think it would be a big mistake granting his wish.

    Mikonos

  22. sled tramp Says:

    Ooohhh…GREAT…
    “Riders and non-riders alike made Sons of Anarchy a hit as the fictitious show about a motorcycle club riding in and out legal situations in a small California town rode away with viewing numbers in the second season. Achieving numbers never seen before with either cable or broadcast television, Sons of Anarchy showed the largest season-to-season growth in adults ages 18-49 with 81 percent more people tuning in and 80 percent increase in males 18 to 49. The total number of viewers for the show grew 72 percent”.
    http://www.clutchandchrome.com/news/news/outlaw-biker-changing-motorcycle-stereotypes

    This will teach me not to read the news in the morning…

  23. Jabba Says:

    “Sir… sir, please sir… can I Prospect with your club? I got a shiny new bike & everything!”

    “Why the fuck you wanna do that?”

    “Cos’ I seen Sons of Anarchy and I think you’re so cool…”

    “Go wait over there in the middle of the highway, with the other 101 fuckwits, while we make up our minds… leave your bike here.”

    Please, kick me in the balls, this must be some kind of nightmare.

    Jabba
    SYLO

  24. Grumbler Says:

    Don’t know about you, but perhaps the success of SOA could pave the way for another motorcycle related show. Hopefully, it’ll combine the best elements of Route 66, Then Came Bronson, Easy Rider, and Northern Exposure. Speaking of MCs, there’s one based in Sonoma, CA consisting of a dozen or so members riding choppers from the ’60s and ’70s. Harleys, Triumphs, and CB750s. They ride them all over Cali, and down to Mexico. Google Deathtraps MC for more info.

  25. Grumbler Says:

    BTW, the personalized plates SAMCRO and SOA were already taken in CA. I always wanted 1FASTMF. ;)

  26. sled tramp Says:

    I always wanted WONGNBH

  27. Rashomon Says:

    Jabba,

    I was just reading a post of yours and I had to chuckle at your using the term “fuckwit” – as an Aussie who’s lived in the US for 19 years and spent a good deal of time in pommie land, I miss selective insults – dimwit, halfwit fuckwit etc – makes me wonder why rhyming slang never took off here :)

    Anyhow, the point of this was a story from a party on Sunday. I was talking to a guy and he mentioned that he had a 1976 commando which piqued my interest so we rode around to his place and fired the bastard up then started racing it up and down his street while reminiscing about the good old days (as you do after a few beers). He was trying his best to piss off his neighbours when the speedo cable siezed, twisted the front end and he went arse over tit down the road. He was pretty pissed off with it so being the oportunist I am, I offered to buy it from him just ’cause I had one when I was young.

    Do you have any idea if spares for Nortons are reasonably easy to come by over here? I’ve never seen another one and I have no idea if many of them made it over the pond. Have you seen any around up there?

    Feel free to insert wankel jokes here ..

    Cheers

  28. Rashomon Says:

    Jabba,

    I was just reading a post of yours and I had to chuckle at your using the term “fuckwit” – as an Aussie who’s lived in the US for 19 years and spent a good deal of time in pommie land, I miss selective insults – dimwit, halfwit fuckwit etc – makes me wonder why rhyming slang never took off here :)

    Anyhow, the point of this was a story from a party on Sunday. I was talking to a guy and he mentioned that he had a 1976 commando which piqued my interest so we rode around to his place and fired the bastard up then started racing it up and down his street while reminiscing about the good old days (as you do after a few beers). He was trying his best to piss off his neighbours when the speedo cable siezed, twisted the front end and he went arse over tit down the road. He was pretty pissed off with it so being the oportunist I am, I offered to buy it from him just ’cause I had one when I was young.

    Do you have any idea if spares for Nortons are reasonably easy to come by over here? I’ve never seen another one and I have no idea if many of them made it over the pond. Have you seen any around up there?

    Feel free to insert wankel jokes here ..

    Cheers

  29. Grumbler Says:

    rashomon -

  30. Grumbler Says:

    rashomon – Nortons were fairly popular motorcycles, especially during the 70s, here in the states. Your ’76 Commando is the last model year for that marque. Google “norton owners” for Norton Owner Associations. Fair Spares America is one resource for parts, and is located in San Jose, CA where I used to reside. Depending on where you live, there might be clubs like Brit Iron Rebels, Ton Up Club, and so forth worth checking out. Rarely see Nortons around these days unless at a britbike or vintage mc rally. Mods vs Rockers is another popular venue for britbikes and cafe racers. Am half Aussie and half British – used to ride Triumphs for over a decade.

  31. Dante Says:

    Reminds me of when I was a kid – I had ridden friends bikes but had never had my own until a friend crashed his 70 scrambler and sold it to me. I messed around with getting it fixed up for a couple of months, just enough time for him to mostly get over his road rash and one day he stopped by and helped me finish it up.

    As with most of my projects there was quite a bit of mysterious hardware left over but everything appeared to be in place. I was scared to ride it though and eventually I talked him into going to the end of the block nice and slow and returning.

    On his return, he thought it would be fun to punch it and in doing so found out that one of those extraneous bolts should have been holding the front brake from turning with the tire – it locked up and he went over the handle bars. Needless to say he was not too happy with me and to this day I check my front brake even though he now lives a couple of hours away.

    Good times, good times…

    He bought a nice Norton Commando after that. I looked at one last summer, restored that was a beauty…

  32. Jabba Says:

    Rashomon > Oh man, takes me back. I haven’t looked for Norton spares since about 1986 – and even then, I had my uncle’s old shed that was so full of shit, that when I moved out of London to Berkshire (still in the UK), I had to get rid of it all.

    I threw a kind of “open shed giveaway” and watched years of stuff just carted off in boxes, carrier bags and in people’s arms. The old guy would have killed me.

    If we’d had e-bay back then I could have made a fortune!

    If I’d had the time and been half the machanic he was, I could probably have built another bike.

    If, if…

    Dante’s right, the Commando was a beautiful machine.

    Anyway, now that I’m in Canada I have even less of an idea of where to start – Grumbler makes good sense though.

    I’ve got a friend or two back in the UK that still keep Norton’s & BSA’s running, they’d know about the UK if that’s any good to you (probably not, stupid question).

    LL&R

    Jabba
    SYLO

  33. Rashomon Says:

    Thanks to all for the suggestions (and sorry to everyone else for getting off topic). This may be more fun than I bargained for. I’ll have to poke around and see what I can find. If anyone is in the north east and wants to borrow it, drop me a line and we’ll get it sorted.

    Cheers

  34. Grumbler Says:

    While I haven’t seen it myself, there’s a Joshua Jackson movie “One Week” on DVD (Canada) in which he rides a Norton Commando west (zig-zags) across Canada.

    GGMC is on Gangland tonight. Tabloid television for the sheeple.

  35. Miss Krista Says:

    Roshamon – A friend of mine has a vintage Vincent he takes on a lot of runs, and shares part finding adventures with a club in Oakland, I think you can hook up with whatever you need there too try this I believe it’s the right link but for sure you’ll find it this way:

    http://theselvedgeyard.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/the-oakland-motorcycle-club-hill-climb-hellcats-dirt-devils/

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