Mongols Marks In A Nutshell

July 5, 2009

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This, in a nutshell, is a summary of the legal dispute over the name and patch of the Mongols Motorcycle Club.

The government of the United States is proposing to seize two registered “marks.” The “verbal mark,” the word “Mongols” when used to mean a particular motorcycle club, dates to January 20, 1969. The “visual mark,” the patch which depicts a Mongol with a top knot, bell bottoms and cowboy boots, riding a rigid with a big sissy bar and brandishing a scimitar, dates to February 26, 1970.

How Can They Do That

The government has advanced two rationales for seizing both marks: That is, to prohibit any group of motorcyclists from either calling itself the Mongols or from wearing or using in any way a patch similar to the current Mongols patch.

First of all, the government argues, these two marks “were property or rights that afforded a source of influence over the RICO enterprise,” by which the government means the Mongols criminal conspiracy which featured drug dealing and violence and so on and on. The terrorizing of innocent persons of color and of little old ladies in Palm Springs. The shooting up of toy drives just to watch the little children run for their lives and scream and so on.

The government can advance this argument because former Mongols President Ruben “Doc” Cavazos “has admitted as part of his plea (and the undisputed evidence conclusively confirms) that the Mongols Registered Trademarks were acquired and maintained by defendant (Doc Cavazos) during and in the course of the operation of the RICO enterprise.”

Doc Owned The Patch And The Club

Cavazos’ “admissions also establish that the Mongols Registered Trademarks afforded a source of influence over the RICO enterprise that (the) defendant admits he established, operated, controlled, conducted and participated in the conduct of, rendering the marks subject to forfeiture.”

Cavazos, it seems at a glance, has confessed to everything except the Kennedy assassination. And, he was running it all. He was the king of all criminals. And his confession that the Mongols was a criminal gang and what the government likes to call “the nexus between the marks and the RICO enterprise…has already been proven,” It has been proven not only by his plea but also by the pleas of other defendants “taken to date (which) cannot be undone.”

Secondly, the government is arguing that Doc Cavazos owned the patch when the government seized it and that he has now given it to the government to, in part, atone for his sins. Forfeiture of the patch is part of Doc Cavazos’ sentence.

But Doc Stole The Patch

And, that is where the issue gets interesting. A California corporation named the Mongols Nation Motorcycle Club claims to be the actual, “innocent owner” of the Mongols marks. And, that corporation is legally impeccable.

The President of that corporation is a man named Martin Guevara. Guevara has no criminal convictions. He asserts that he has been a Mongol since 1997. And so he has been entitled to use those two marks since 1997. Guevara appears to be assert, although his lawyer seems too timid or stupid to say so out loud, that he is a “real Mongol” representing “real Mongols” as opposed to all those “criminal Mongols.”

The corporation’s Articles specifically state that “any member who uses, sells, transports or possesses any controlled substance or other illegal drug shall be expelled….” And, in what is apparently the Doc Cavazos clause, “any member who uses the corporation for any illegal gain shall be expelled….” And further, anyone who is found guilty of “any serious felony” will also be out bad.

Some sources, some friends of this page, have described this new found enthusiasm for sober living and law-abiding to be a matter of the club “getting its act together.” Which the club undoubtedly has. But, it is the verbal and symbolic marks that the club would like to use that are in doubt.

The argument that the corporation seems to be advancing is that Doc Cavazos stole the marks from the legal owner, which was an unincorporated association called the Mongols Nation. Cavazos first registered those two marks with the patent office and said they belonged to the unincorporated association on October 4, 2002.

The Chain Of Ownership

Then, in 2005 Cavazos transferred ownership of those marks to a corporation he owned called Shotgun Productions. After Cavazos was expelled from the club last August, his successor as Mongols President, Hector “Largo” Gonzalez, “discovered” the transfer and just before the government attempted to take control of the Mongols’ marks – on October 14, 2008 – Gonzalez transferred ownership of those marks back to the Mongols Nation unincorporated association.

Either Gonzalez knew what was coming or he had very good timing. A week later the court ordered that the marks not be transferred again. Gonzalez is a defendant in this case and he has not yet pled guilty to anything. So, he is presumed to be innocent. And, none of what is now happening would be happening if Gonzalez had just done nothing.

But instead, Gonzalez tried to do something smart which the government is now arguing was actually very, very stupid. As the government puts it, “Mongol Nation (through Gonzalez) subsequently transferred the marks in January 2009 (in direct violation of this Court’s restraining order of October 22, 2008) to a newly-formed corporation called Mongols Nation Motorcycle Club.”

And, the reason why this transfer was stupid, according to the government, was not, “the contemptuous act of transferring and assigning the registered marks to Mongols, Inc. in the face of this Court’s order prohibiting it.” No, what was stupid was that both Gonzalez and the Mongols Nation unincorporated association, which up until then could have argued that Doc stole the marks, voluntarily relinquished ownership to a corporation that was not even in existence when the marks were seized on October 22, 2008.

Does The Corporation Own The Marks

Consequently, as of now the only “legal person” who “has standing” to claim ownership of the Mongols marks is the Mongols Nation Motorcycle Club, Inc.

And, the problem with them, according to the government, is that the corporation already admitted in court documents filed June 16th, “that it knowingly violated this Court’s Amended Order of October 22, 2008 in accepting the assignment of the Mongols Verbal Mark.” And, what that means, also according to the government, is that the corporation is now incapable of presenting “a viable innocent owner defense.”

So, unless the Mongols Nation Motorcycle Club, Inc. or its attorneys can pull a rabbit out of a hat, “the United States Marshal shall forthwith publish once in a newspaper of general circulation notice of ” any orders affecting “the Forfeitable Marks.”

The Mongols corporation or anyone other than Doc Cavazos, who has already given his stake in the club to the Department of Justice, will then have 30 days to “petition the court for a hearing without a jury to adjudicate the validity of (their) alleged interest in the property, and for an amendment of the order of forfeiture.”

And then, unless some lawyer is so brilliant and moving that Judge Cooper reverses herself, the government will begin to “conduct any discovery for the purpose of
identifying, locating, or disposing of property subject to forfeiture.”

That may be, just maybe, the point at which federal agents start going into the residences of “known Mongols” in order to look in their bedroom closets to see what forfeited articles they might be able to find.

Praemonitus, praemunitus. Forewarned is forearmed.

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11 Responses to “Mongols Marks In A Nutshell”

  1. Dragon Says:

    If the Mongols lose; all motorcycle clubs lose, their fight is universal.

  2. Nookster Says:

    The Mongols should “fight the good fight”. For themselves and every other american who cares about our basic rights. They deserve our support for as long as it takes. However, I personally feel that this fight may take many, many years to work itself through our broken justice system, and that it would serve a great purpose to fly a different patch in the interim. Just to show you can take a patch temporaily, but that can’t and won’t change a thing. That good men will rise up against the injustise of a prosecurial system that is out of control. Perseverance and strength will rule at the end of the day.

  3. JAMES Says:

    SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE GENTLEMAN, MY FRIEND THAT DUDE, JAMES

  4. THAT DUDE Says:

    RIGHT ON MAN SIGHNED IT MYSELF LETS PUT ALL THE BS BEHIND US CAUSE YOUR CLUB COULD BE NEXT THIS AINT WHAT AMERICA STANDS FOR LETS NOT LET THESE ASSHOLES TELL US WHT WE CANT & CAN WEAR… LAND OF THE FREE HOME OF THE BRAVE.

  5. JAMES Says:

    ALREADY HAVE SIGHNED IT AND SENT IT AROUND AND BACK AGAIN, THANKS FOR DOING SO, JAMES

  6. Anonymous Says:

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  7. JAMES Says:

    I do believe every effort is being done to stop the FEDS from taking these rights away, the MONGOLS are doing the best they can with what they have to work with, which is alot less than our FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has, so anyone who truly cares, LIKE THEM OR NOT, should pitch in and lend a hand, for you CAN and WILL be next.Even if it is by helping them to fund their defence or to write a few letters, petitions whatever you can do should be done,because yes my friend the GOOD OLE U.S. OF A. is becoming very much A COMMUNIST REGIEME against the PEOPLE of which it claims has all of the FREEDOMS of SPEECH or EXPRESSION.

  8. THAT DUDE Says:

    don,t wear a patch, but have much respect for the constitution. If patches mean a criminal then were all criminals.We who ride should wear “support patches” sanctioned by the clubs. They are taking our freedoms one by one, United we stand.

  9. JUST A BIKER Says:

    THAT WOULD BE THE OBVIOUS THING TO DO FATBOBBER CHANGE THE NAME AND THE CENTER PATCH A LITTLE..

    BUT IF YOU BELONGED TO A CLUB AND PUT EVERYTHING INTO IT WOULD YOU WANT TO JUST LAY DOWN AND ACCEPT A ALTERNATIVE NAME AND LOGO OR FIGHT LIKE THE MONGOLS HAVE SINCE THEY STARTED BACK IN 1969..

    BESIDES THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT SO NO SIMILAR NAME OR LOGO CAN BE USED..

    SO LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE KISS OUR RIGHTS GOOD BYE…THIS IS ONE STEP TO TOTAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL MARSHALL LAW HIDING IN THE HILLS LIKE JESSE AND FRANK JAMES DID DURING THE CIVIL WAR…

    FREEDOM AS WE KNOW IS OVER IF THIS HAPPENS…TO US…IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT WE ARE BECOMING LIKE CUBA GOVERNMENT TELLING US WHAT WE CAN WEAR AND NOW IN WHAT TEXT WE USE A WORD…WOW SO GLAD I SERVED IN THE MILITARY AND FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOMS…IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY WAS GOING TO TURN INTO I NEVER WOULD HAVE IN LISTED..

    I LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND THE FREEDOMS MY FATHER AND GRAND FATHER AND HIS GRAND FATHER FOUGHT FOR THE IDEA OF A FREE SOCIETY IS DISAPPEARING..

    PEOPLE STAND UP AND TAKE NOTICE THIS IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN A BIKE CLUB LOOSING THEIR PATCH THIS IS ABOUT AMERICANS LOOSING OUR LIBERTIES

  10. FatBobber Says:

    Okay, let the brimstone fly, but isn’t there a way to side-step here? There are guys that are Mongols for life and no one is going to come confiscate your tats. So, a renaming that is similar keeping the colors. No one can trademark colors and no club is stupid enough to say, “Hey, black and white is availabe, Scooter!” BW is always going to be Mongols – why not another name? Okay, I’m Mr. Obvious, but no one here said it yet :^

  11. JAMES Says:

    WELL I guess it will just have to finish up in a court, too bad the very first INCORPORTIAN OG THE MOMGOLS M.C. from the early 80’s was not kept up with or all paperwork etc. taken care of, you would think that although it was not kept up to date that it non the less would still be listed as a CORP and TRADEMARK would still be standing since they are and were then a NON PROFIT ORG.

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