Attention Mongols Defendants And Attorneys

July 3, 2009

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For those of you who might be considering an insanity defense, as in the ATF and all its undercover agents must be crazy, we offer for your consideration the following brief conversation. Jay Dobyns, former ATF Undercover Agent, author, television personality, good guy, hero and victim shared these intimacies with Fox News personality Shepard Smith on Smith’s show Studio B. The show was scheduled to air today.

And now! Here’s the star of Undercover Outlaw Bikerland! Give a big, biker welcome to…HERE’S JAY!

Jay Dobyns: on a previously recorded tape. “I’ve actually come to the conclusion that really, probably the only people who hate me more than the Hells Angels are ATF’s management. I want to restore some peace to my family’s life. Uh…but I’m not gonna do that…it’s not gonna happen…by being moved all over the country and hiding like I’m the bad guy. I’m the good guy in this. I stood up to the bad guy. Uh…and, the people that I thought had my back in all of this didn’t.”

Shepard Smith: “Dobyns told his story in the book No Angel. 20th Century Fox owned by this network’s parent company bought the movie rights. Jay Dobyns joins us now live and we’re not going to tell you where he is. Jay, thanks for being with us. The Hells Angels burned down your house with your family inside. Fortunately they, uh, escaped. They put a contract on your head. And then! They sent a written threat to you about your wife and daughter. What did it say?”

Dobyns: “There was a threat that was issued from a Hells Angel in prison who threatened to kill me by injecting me with AIDS. And there was a threat to videotape the gang rape of my wife. There was threats to kidnap and torture my kids. And ATF chose not to investigate those threats and to basically ignore them and wait for them to go away.”

Smith: “The ATF was supposed to give you a new identity? Kinda hide you? What happened?”

Dobyns: “Well they saved some money by doing it the easy way. They just relocated me. I was left in the open. And, as the new threats came I…kept…being…found. By the suspects. By my adversaries.”

Smith: “Why?!”

Dobyns: “Well you know, when you do what I do for a living; when you befriend people and you do it under a false persona…uh…and then you betray that friendship and that trust and that loyalty….”

Smith: “Yeah.”

Dobyns: “You create adversaries. But, uh, I expected that.”

Smith: “Yeah.”

Dobyns: “What I didn’t expect was for the government to not support me or not to investigate the threats that were made against me.”

Smith: “Uh…You’ve stopped running. Why and what do you intend to do?”

Dobyns: “If I run anymore, they win. You know, I’ve been very proud to be an ATF Agent and to confront violent predators on behalf of America. And…if I run away from those people it empowers them. And, uh, ATF’s inability…DOJ’s inability to investigate. Lack of desire to investigate the threats against me…I’ve had to take it on myself to defend myself from an international crime syndicate….”

Smith: “Yeah.”

Dobyns: “That of me and my family.”

Smith: “You think the Assistant Director of the ATF – his name is Larry Ford – do you think he lied to Congress? How so?”

Dobyns: “Well Senator McCain – Senator John McCain from Arizona – was attempting to help me. ATF looked into the allegations I made. They found that they did nothing wrong…um…I have a letter right here… ( waves a piece of paper)…uh…that Director Ford sent to John McCain. Saying that the agency hadn’t done anything wrong. And then DOJs independent oversight agencies found the exact opposite: That they had in fact not investigated threats and left me and my family, my wife and my kids, exposed to death and violence threats.”

Smith: “You’ve got a couple of lawsuits against the government for their failure to protect you and all the other things we’ve been talking about. Their response was we can’t talk about ongoing litigation but they also in that statement, they were very conspicuously pointing out that you’ve written a book. As if to suggest that perhaps you’re sort of exaggerating or making stuff up to peddle a book. What say you?”

Dobyns: “There is nothing that’s is in my lawsuits or that I’ve said publically or privately that won’t be proven. Everything is based on fact. And ATF fails to take any responsibility, any accountability, for what’s been done. The statement that, uh, Director Ford issued to your program yesterday about the, uh, agencies desire to protect their agents? It is a mischaracterization. It’s….

Smith: “Yeah”

Dobyns “…a deception of Senator McCain, of Congress and the American people.”

Smith: “Well, Jay Dobyns, uh, we surely appreciate your sharing your story with us. I hope you and your family live through this. The Hells Angels…well, they’re a pretty notorious, heinous criminal operation. Bunch of killers a lot of them. Not all. Jay Dobyns! Thank you.!”

Dobyns: “Thank you”

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12 Responses to “Attention Mongols Defendants And Attorneys”

  1. FatBobber Says:

    Rebel,

    Now that’s a storyline I could watch…something….believable.

    Okay, you lurking fucktard writers – stop listening to your “1%R” experts over there and write a decent episode based on Rebel’s ideas – he won’t sue you. Well, I won’t anyway and I’m the brainfart originator on this project!

  2. BreakingPoint Says:

    True to that! I don’t know any tweaker that has not looked at there floor, going-“Opps I dropped a rock or two”! If that fuck really dropped his line on the floor, someone would have noticed. I dont know about him but after a good line you like to walk around a bit and let it set In. Again, no fucking way , no one noticed dope on the floor!

  3. Rebel Says:

    Dear Just A Biker,

    Oh now! Come on! Billy Queen never did a single line of crank! That time in the hotel room in Laughlin he swept it onto the floor with his hand. And afterward nobody ever said, “Hey, what is all this white shit on the rug?”

    Rebel

  4. Rebel Says:

    Dear Just A Biker and Onray,

    Jay is an Agent Provocateur. Conrad wrote an interesting novel about the type called The Secret Agent. I am not sure Jay, or Billy Queen, or Boteler, or the Koz or any of these guys are as interesting as the character Joseph Conrad imagined. I was studying John Ciccone last night on a television show and I am not sure he is as interesting as I would like to imagine him.

    But what they do is interesting. Agents provocateur always get ironic results. They never accomplish what they intend to accomplish and they always end up making the problem they claim to be trying to solve into something worse than it would have been if they had just let it alone.

    I hate to defend Jay Dobyns but I think he was a much better football player than I was. And, Jay is going to get rich behind all this shit. I don’t know what it is going to cost him personally, but Jay is going to be living off his little descent into the heart of darkness, or whatever he is calling it, for the rest of his life. And living well.

    The time is coming again when I am going to have to sell my damned motorcycle again just to keep a damn roof over my family. That day Jay will be on television in a thousand dollar suit talking about how people like me have victimized him.

    But, he was a better football player than I was. For sure.

    your pal,
    Rebel

  5. onnray Says:

    hahah Jay is a joke.

    His cases fell apart because after all the time he spent undercover he didn’t have any fucking case.

    He tells everyone that someone is after him, yet he seems to still be alive even after he admits the ATF are not hiding or protecting him…

    his house burned down and he claims that bad guys did it, yet his own agency investigated “HIM” for arson hahahah

    Jay, the only thing worse thing a “Has Been” is a “Never was” Jay…and your a “never was”

    Never was Important
    Never was a Brother
    Never was a Good ATF agent
    Never was a good Father
    Never was a good husband
    Never was a good football player
    Never was a good liar
    Never was interesting………on and on…

    get it bitch?

    no one gives a fuck about your punk ass ;-) Get over it and enjoy your welfare checks Sissie

  6. JUST A BIKER Says:

    WELL JAY IF YOU REALLY LOVED YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR WIFE I GUESS YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THEM BEFORE TRYING TO BE A HERO..

    THERE IS AN OLD SAYING NO GOOD DEED GOES UN-PUNISHED…

    YOUR WIFE AND CHILDREN ARE INNOCENT..BUT LIKE BILLY QUEEN YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET IT IS PUNK ASS BITCHES LIKE YOUR SELF WITH YOUR WIRE TAPS AND BIG BROTHER SPYING IS WHY THIS COUNTRY IS FALLING…

    HEY I FEEL IF YOU DID THE CRIME AND ARE FOUND GUILTY WITH NO LIES OR TRUMPT UP CHARGES DO YOUR TIME..

    SO JAY DO EXPECT US TO BELEAVE THAT YOU STAYED AWAKE FOR DAYS ON END OFF OF HYDROXY CUT AND RED BULLS..NOW WE ALL KNOW BILLY DID DRUGS AND LIED UNDER OATH..

    LETS BE REAL JAY HOW BAD DID YOU LIE AND WHAT LAWS DID YOU BREAK TO MAKE YOUR CASE..NOW ASK YOUR SELF WAS IT WORTH IT… DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE BIG FOOTBALL HERO ALL AMERICAN BOY STILL..

    A 14 YEAR OLD GIRL WAS KILLED IN A DRIVE BYE SHOOTING WHILE CERVANTES AND CICCONE WAS PLAYING BABY SITTER AND HARRASSING PEOPLE GOING AND COMING TO A MONGOL EVENT THEN TRIED TO TO SAY THE SHOOTING WAS MONGOL RELATED TO COVER THEIR OWN ASS FOR HAVING ALL THE LOCAL COPS OVER IN ASUZA…

    CALIFORNIA IS IN A 3 BILLION DEBT AND CUTTING SCHOOL PROGRAMS YET THEY HAVE MONEY TO WASTE ON STANDING ACROSS THE STREET WATCHING THE MONGOLS PARTY…WOW I AM GLAD MY TAX MONEY IS BEING SPENT SO WELL..

    JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT..CONCERNED CITIZEN..BY THE WAY JAY I READ YOUR BOOK AND I DO HAVE TO SAY IT WAS BETTER THAN BILLY QUEEN’S BOOK

  7. Rebel Says:

    Dear FatBobber,

    Sons of Anarchy?

    That might actually entice me to watch that show. I want to see the guys on that show get infiltrated by agents provocateur. Queen and Jay could sell each other crank while the rest of the club watched then everybody could be charged with racketeering.

    I want to watch Ron Perlman, is that his name, negotiate a plea deal and go into witness protection.

    I want to watch Katey Segal show an ATF agent just how bad she wants her old man to go free. Why not? It’s cable.

    I know writers connected to the show lurk here sometimes. Try that storyline guys. I would watch that!

    Rebel

  8. FatBobber Says:

    Billy Q. needs a friend – maybe they could start a bed-n-breakfast
    (Redwood area is nice…then they could patch into SOA!)

  9. Beowulf Says:

    Hey Jay, what goes around comes around huh? How does it feel to be friends with people, people you trust, you work with, people you would die for, and have them turn their back on you? just like you did to the members of the club who you conned into being your friends, trusting you, taking you into their confidence, even willing to die for you, Bro????? how do you like it!! Like I said, what goes around comes around! have a nice life Bro!!!

  10. BreakingPoint Says:

    Snitch Snitch…..
    Regardless of your (real job), you exposed your self to a 1% lifesyle.
    You rode with people and lived the life sytle. Sorry to say, it’s time to take your lashings! Sounds like you burned the ATF and the 1% you thought you were! Looks like you got no where else to go, because you fucked everyone around you, even your kids. Thats what you get when you try to play big bad biker, with a bigger MOTIVE.
    If I was him, I would let the HA take me and handle there issues with me, just to save my kids. Im sure for once In this guys pathetic life, if he offered him self up, to save his kids, they would honor that. To bad this guy is still thinking about himself.

  11. Gringo1%er Says:

    my heart pumps purple piss for jaybird!!

  12. T-Bone Says:

    What an ass!! Both Shepard Smith and Jay Dobyns!!

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