LA Gang Framing Scandal

January 17, 2020

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LA Gang Framing Scandal

A scandal has erupted in Los Angeles over the nationwide police practice of falsely labelling people as gang members.

So far, 20 members of the LAPD’s Metro Division have come under investigation for falsifying field interview cards and deliberately entering incorrect information in order to make it look like they are doing something all days besides eating donuts and pushing their weight around. Ten officers have been taken off the street.

According to the Los Angeles Times, “The LAPD received a letter from a Van Nuys mother saying she believed her son was misidentified as a gang member during an interview with officers. Officials reviewed body-worn camera footage and other information, and they found inaccuracies by the officer.”
Internal Affairs then began reviewing additional body-cam footage. According to Police Chief Michel Moore ( he is a man and that is how he spells it) the investigation initially focused on three officers and expanded to others who worked with the original three and then to others who worked with a second group, the chief said.

Making Lemonade

Los Angeles is a large, litigious city with very many lawyers so the police department was compelled to come clean. Not only are officer’s careers endangered but also criminal cases past and present. The city is trying to portray the scandal as an example of better policing, not worse.

The LAPD, is America’s third-largest police department. It began using body cameras in 2014 and it has now accumulated more than 2 million hours of “encounters.” It is collecting about 14,000 began field testing body-worn cameras in 2014 and collects about 14,000 recordings each day.”

The Times quoted Moore as saying that the body cams help “both sides of the camera, The existence of that camera helps answer: Did the alleged act occur or did it not?”

He said he expects to recommend discipline for the officers who have had their police powers suspended
Moore said Wednesday that he expects to make initial discipline determinations this week on the first wave of cases under review in the gang-reports investigation. “I don’t mean this to go on for months or years.”

Mayor Eric Garcetti praised the LAPD for taking speedy action before the city got sued. “We have a department that didn’t shove that under the rug,” Garcetti said. “I think the chief took the right action. Secondly, we have to make sure due process is afforded.”

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55 Responses to “LA Gang Framing Scandal”

  1. Shovelhead Says:

    I came to this site when Nas T” Tipton was murdered by that Iron Order Coward Kristopher Stone.
    People have always argued here. At least that’s what I’ve seen since coming here. We have strong opinions. I remember some assholes coming here wanting to punch everyone out.
    We’ve had guys claim to be 1%ers, mouthing off, turns out they just sell stolen guitars or empty guitar cases and just watch movies about 1%ers. That’s the problem with the Internet, we don’t always know who’s real.

    I come here for the news and stories and read opinions. I also get a laugh at some of the fighting. Doesn’t bother me, this site is what it is.
    I keep coming to support Rebel. A Man who genuinely cares about this life and those being screwed by the Man.

    Say your piece, give your opinion, It’s One of the freedoms we fight for. Rebel has given this place to us!

    I personally have never had a problem with Gandalf. He speaks his mind, same as others here. Same as I do, I’m sure I’ve pissed off some folks here and there.
    I’m sure if we all were to meet somewhere, at a bar or Rebels back yard, we could all have a laugh and probably be completely surprised at what we all look like. You get an image in your head of what the regulars look like, never looks the same in reality.
    Anyhow, I’ll keep coming, supporting and try not to get pissed.

    FTW

  2. JMacK Says:

    I always read and support and appreciate Rebel’s contribution to this world.

    There’s just some strains of stupid that you can’t reason with and it appears to have infected this site.

    In my experience, if you have to tell someone how badass you are, you likely are exactly the opposite.

    Respects to those who deserve it.

    JMacK

  3. Rebel Says:

    Dear anonymouse,

    Bluntly, frankly, what is the problem and how would you fix it. Everybody. This your site as much as mine. Email me. [email protected]. Do it today.

    Rebel

  4. Gandalf Says:

    BTW I got 3 assault charges since release. All 3 Not guilty BY JURY trial. Each time I tried to walk away. Each time the other guy wouldn’t let me. Each time the other guy called 911 after he realized his mistake. Each time cops charged the winner not the guy who called 911. So yea… I got tired of “the ride.” Lawyers cost $. Now I just call the cops when some punk wants to fight… At least in court I can add that to my defense. I’m the biggest bitch in the room…By design. Right up and until I am not. THATS my MO. I start mounting my defense before the 1st punch is thrown. I KNOW I’m getting arrested and charged and need witnesses. “I don’t want to fight” (in front of witnesses) 3X is my motto and what I teach my boys.

  5. Gandalf Says:

    HEY “PALADIN”.… Didn’t I tell you to keep my name out of your fucking mouth? A year ago? Oh yea, I see you did. Nuff said.

  6. Gandalf Says:

    @Paladin #1 and #4 are 100% correct. #2 #3 50-50. You forget that real “Lethal” people don’t believe they are lethal at all… nor want to be. Your “Lethal” people response belies your own ambition and insecurities. Not to mention your the biggest mouth on this site. Yea, I call cops now…. for others safety and because I don’t really like baloney sandwiches and was never good at spades. I like my family and life so much more. You can take that fucking badge and stick it up your fucking ass.

  7. New England Rider Says:

    “I’m stubborn in that I keep thinking there is still hope (however small) that through all of the projected static, an intelligent conversation can still be had on Rebel’s blog.” – Paladin

    HAHAHAHAHA!! This is legit the funniest shit I have EVER read on here. So much so I had to comment for the first time in forever!! What a joke Paladin, too funny! If you weren’t making a joke it just shows what little self-awareness and how completely narcissistic you are. I literally stop posting on this blog because it was impossible to have any intelligent conversation, especially with you!! Talk about pot calling the kettle black. Every time you disagree with someone you dump on them, treat them like shit and then claim they’re a LEO. Every. Single. Time. So take your self-righteous attitude and look in the mirror. You RUIN this site with your horseshit opinions.

    Death is certain, life is not.
    New England Rider

  8. Paladin Says:

    In my almost seventy years I’ve come to know some incredibly lethal individuals on both sides of the law. They share a number of the following commonalities: 1) they’re low key (you wouldn’t be able to pick them out of a crowd). 2) they’re polite and courteous (when you have the horsepower, there’s no need to be rude or offensive). 3) they are respectful (to be disrespectful or pushy is unpardonable). 4) Their words are few, their actions speak volumes.

    There is an individual that posts on Rebel’s page that is the absolute polar opposite of the above described individuals I’ve known over my lifetime. Because this particular individual incessantly runs his mouth, letting his Bulldog mouth over run his Pekingese ass, he’s a liability to all he comes in contact with. He has even boasted that if pushed he’d call the cops.

    The people I know and have known over my lifetime would never allow such an irresponsible individual anywhere near them. He would have been immediately turned away. If this individual persisted, I would have little doubt about his house getting painted.

    Paladin

  9. Gandalf Says:

    Like I told you before, I don’t post here to make friends and chit chat with people I don’t know. I post to say something to real 1%ers…WHO DON’T POST! Like TY for taking me under their wing and schooling me so many years ago. I will always be grateful to all 1%ers because things could have gone very bad. They didn’t let it and they didn’t have to. Later I payed it forward and watched out for others when I got strong enough. I only comment on some stories. Like supporting Waco Twin Peaks, Freddy and hating Gang listing. I consider it paying a debt of sorts. I can because I’m a civilian. So to all you “regulars” who REGULARY put your 2 fucking cents into EVERY story for who knows WHAT reason… all I got to say is this…. (Something I was taught 40+ years ago.) NUNYA ARGO! (Especially the ARGO part).

  10. Anonymouse Says:

    I don’t post often, but I read the blog posts and comments. I have to agree the level of discourse has fallen off quite a bit. I’ve read Rebel’s thoughts on the one obvious problem child, and I respect his comments… It’s his house. He can choose to welcome whoever he welcomes.

    But I can’t tell you how pissed I’ve been at some of the idiocy I’ve witnessed, and how many comments I’ve deleted without posting. Mainly due to the aforementioned advice about arguing with an idiot.

    I’m just about done. I can’t take much more of someone who can’t spell or use an apostrophe correctly calling other people morons. I’m done with someone who claims to have respect calling a very well respected, and by all accounts wrongly convicted man, an idiot… All because the man didn’t listen to some idiot jailhouse lawyer know-it-all’s legal advice.

    The level of disrespect and idiocy from someone who doesn’t have the good sense to be embarrassed by his own stupidity is getting really old.

  11. Phuquehed Says:

    Gandalf is this site’s version of Donkey in the Shrek movies…the fucker is dumber than a Pet Rock and doesn’t know how to shut the fuck up or why it should.

    Good to see you’re still stopping by, Muck 1%er!

  12. Muck 1%er Says:

    I still stop by and read the REAL news, but for the most part, I choose to avoid getting sucked into the silliness, with the keyboard warriors and know-it-alls in the comment sections. I do however enjoy the comments from the old timers who still understand the meaning of respect and courtesy.
    As someone else who used to comment here said frequently…”Respects to the real.”

    And…it’s easy to see which ones are.

  13. Gandalf Says:

    BTW- Those Pre-Twin Peaks “regulars” are gone. This page used to be low key and not followed as much by LE. After Twin Peaks they realized LE is watching (harder) so they left. Leaving you (an X cop) and all your fake friends (+ a few more cops I’m sure). The ones who are gone were “real” 1%ers… The “regulars” who are left… who the fuck knows? But that’s the whole point isn’t it. Real 1%ers don’t fuck with people they don’t know. EVER!

  14. rollinnorth Says:

    Amen, Paladin. I like to think some (many?) of the “regulars” still stop by to read Rebel’s writings and just skip the responses. Yes, Va. Bob said it well. Still, I, too, hope good conversations will prevail.

    Don’t feed the trolls!

    Respect.

  15. Gandalf Says:

    I thought not… “You are also right spot on & I too always thought, why on earth would any 1%er be on Twitter or Facebook. And, thank you for rippin’ into those on-line posers, wannabes, and/or cops, good job.” (Bobby Nauss)

  16. Paladin Says:

    @ White witch

    You asked the following question: “i own guns i am for guns but what is wrong with a background check.” I decided to answer your question. Nowhere in my reply to you did I ever offer you advice on anything. Ya see; here’s the odd thing about advice: Wise people don’t need it, and fools won’t heed it. The truth is the truth, and facts are facts. It matters not who speaks them.

    @ Dasein

    I’m stubborn in that I keep thinking there is still hope (however small) that through all of the projected static, an intelligent conversation can still be had on Rebel’s blog. Once upon a time there used to be quite a few interesting and intelligent people posting on this site, they were considered to be the “regulars” on this page. I consider myself fortunate to have crossed paths with some of them. I hope that they have and continue to fair well.

    Sadly; I think Va. Bob got it right when he replied to the Kraut: “You mean the entity who pretty much caused this site to “jump the shark”?(hate to give the motherfucker credit,but there it is)”

    Long May You Ride,

    Paladin

  17. Gandalf Says:

    Raise your hand if you are on a gang list!

  18. Neuro Says:

    Paladin is right.

  19. Dasein Says:

    Paladin: There’s a famous Book that cautions against arguing with fools, and I’ve only noticed success here in one instance. That was with that beer-named guy (you know who I mean), and it ultimately drove him off the rails and outta here. Yay us. Currently though, whitewitch is a shallow simpleton, and gandalf is so twisted by his supposed past, that he regularly interchanges the real and the imaginary. “Reasoning” with either is pointless, and in fact their insults should be taken as compliments. That said, I certainly appreciate your firm grasp on the “mental disorder” called “liberalism,” and your willingness to call it out for what it really is.

  20. Phuquehed Says:

    Translation of white witch post: Durrr…Which way did he go George? I can’t seem to make up my mind.

    Translation of anything the widdle movie phanboi gandalf posts: Blargh-gobble-slobber-rant-rave-mememe-Iknowbetterthananyone-gah-glurp-poo-noonelistenstome-aaargh-waaaahhhh-I’mbadassandfoughtaniggeronce!

    Rebel, where did you hide the eject button! Does it still only work at over 10,000 feet and not supply a parachute?

  21. Gandalf Says:

    And don’t tell me that MC’s are not “gangs” because the word GANG simply means “THE OTHER GUYS”. Our guys are Clubs, Org and whatever. Their guys are gangs. To 1%ers it’s obvious LE is a gang. To LE MC Clubs are obviously a gang. White people will argue Crips, bloods and Nigers are Gangs but MCs and AB are just Orgs and Clubs. Nigers say the exact opposite. #TheOtherGuys Democrats HATE the gang lists… maybe it’s because they hate “Guilt by association and without due process” Naaaaa Paladin’s kind (Rs) will tell you WHY Democrats hate these Laws being applied to gangs lists… Their Crystal ball mind reading senses say its “Because Democrats want MS-13, Crips and Bloods to own guns” Imagine that? Scared yet? Like I said before, “If you got a 1% Patch… check your guns (and friends/families guns) at the door”. ITS THE GANG List… Not the fucking RF Laws.

  22. Gandalf Says:

    Police and Republicans LOVE that “Gang list”. This ain’t about Red Flag Laws… It’s about that fucking Gang List. (Guilt by association without due process) Argue all you want about if the red flag laws are Un-constitution or not. It Don’t matter! Maybe they are, maybe they are not??? Wearing a patch puts you on the “gang list” and Republicans want the “Red Flag Law” (that they hate so much) to include GANGS! That means PATCH HOLDERS, and possibly your family and friends. Paladin (as usual) is full of shit! He’s on the “Do not arrest” List. (X-cop) Republicans and Paladin WANT the gang list to include the enforcement of RED FLAG LAWS. It’s the gang list people! And LE/Republicans/Paladin wants RF laws to include YOU. Today Paladin hates the RF Laws… tomorrow He wants to use it on gangs. #YOU! That WHOLE gang list is UNCONSTITUTIONAL no matter if your a Crip, Blood or Club member. Thanks for nothing Paladin. Same game different topic.

  23. white witch Says:

    @ Paldin,

    I stated that I agree with some of your opinions but I do not take advice from cops or former cops.
    so tell someone who gives a shit about your opinion because i do not

    ride free
    white witch

  24. Paladin Says:

    white witch Says:
    January 23, 2020 at 7:24 am

    “i own guns i am for guns but what is wrong with a background check.
    hell i have had to go through them to get certain jobs. if you have nothing to hide what is the big deal?”

    Here’s the big deal: The Constitution’s Bill of Rights does not guarantee an American citizen the right to a job. However; the Constitution’s Bill of Rights DOES guarantee an American citizen the right to bear arms. Further more; it states that that “Right” shall not be infringed”.

    Background checks, waiting periods and limiting a citizen’s ability to purchase more than one gun within a certain time frame are all liberal schemes to infringe on a “Right” that this Country’s Bill of Rights very clearly states shall not be infringed upon. If that’s not bad enough, Red Flag laws attempt an end run around this Country’s Constitutional guarantee of due process. Liberals claim all of this in the name of public safety. As I’ve previously stated, this is bullshit. Get it through your head; liberals don’t give a shit about public safety. They do care a great deal about having the ability to get over on a complacent citizenry. We are the only country on the planet that has the ability (with force if necessary) to keep our government in check. Although; it might not look so clear cut at the moment.

    BREAKING NEWS! Criminals aren’t impeded, nor do they care about background checks, waiting periods, gun rationing, or Red Flag laws, or any laws for that matter. Laws are solely on the books to give fair warning that if you do certain shit and get caught doing that shit, you’ll be subject to certain shit. It keeps people from telling the judge; “Oh man, if I’d known that shit, I wouldn’t a done that shit!”

    I have said the following in the past, but I think it bears repeating: The world has always been and will always be a dangerous place in which to live. If you act like food, you will be eaten. I am also a firm believer in: What’s right isn’t always legal. What’s legal isn’t always right.

    Paladin

  25. Gandalf Says:

    I own no guns but believe others should. 100% Pro 2nd. Convicted Felons of any kind should NOT own guns. Including me. IMHO Law abiding Americans should be able to own a Tank if it is registered and approved. IMHO Live, Love, Laugh and let others do the same. Hurt no one nor tell them how to live. If smoking crack makes you happy… Go for it. Not my business.

  26. freebird Says:

    @ Paladin

    Right on the money!

  27. white witch Says:

    @ paladin,
    You make some great points and I agree with a lot of them.
    @rollinnorth i agree with you.

    ride free
    white witch

  28. white witch Says:

    @ no one,
    I am not on anyone’s side. hell he does not even ride. nothing personal dude i just disagree with you argument. i am a registered independent. it seems republicans want to take away more rights than others they just spout out the words that you want to hear while behind the scenes they are robbing us blind. like i said before republicans want to rule not govern. Trump is a perfect example of that. Do you really think that moscow mitch, rubio, cruz or trump gives a shit about the common man? I do not. i own guns i am for guns but what is wrong with a background check.
    hell i have had to go through them to get certain jobs. if you have nothing to hide what is the big deal? hell i believe convicted felons should be able to own guns unless they used a gun to commit the crime.

    ride free
    white witch

  29. rollinnorth Says:

    If you do not interact with a foolish person, eventually, that foolish person will STFU and go away.

    Respect, to those…

  30. Paladin Says:

    As a firearms manufacturer and dealer, I’ll give you all a little insider trading information. 1) The reason there is such a push to ban, register, and then confiscate high capacity, military styled weapons and their magazines from the hands of civilians is because no government can successfully dictate to a populace that is armed on an equal footing with the government. The government doesn’t give two shits about public safety. They never have. Think the government can keep you safe? The government can’t even get a handle on telemarketers or robocalls.

    If you’ve been paying attention, you’ll notice that the government isn’t looking to ban, register and then confiscate your bolt action, lever action, pump action or single shot hunting rifle or shotgun, or limit the magazine capacity of any of the foregoing. No; the government is focusing on a very specific type of rifle and the capacity of the magazines that feed them. The government knows all too well that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting and everything to do with keeping an over-reaching government in check, but the government figures (as Adolf Hitler once did) that if you tell a big enough lie long enough and often enough, people will believe it. 2) If you think this country’s government treats the people poorly now, how do you think this country’s government would treat the people if they were disarmed and couldn’t resist?

    I’ve seen first hand how governments treat those they’ve been able to disarm. It ain’t pretty to say the very least.

    Paladin

  31. No one important Says:

    Sahwee Mizzus white witch. You remind me of my 2nd grade teacher. Me:”can I go to the bathroom?” Mrs. White witch, “I don’t know? Can you? Hahaha; it’s actually may I use the restroom.” Me, “whatever bitch! I have to fuckin piss!” First off I never typed the words “confiscation” or “registration”. Nor did I make any argument about the differences or similarities. So it is you who needs to get their facts straight! Just 2 articles ago you were arguing my same side against Gandalf and now you’re backing him up. Choose a side or get outta the fight lady! No one likes a fence rider.
    @ shovel you are a 100% correct. Our dumbasses are arguing over the lesser of 2 evils. The founding fathers must be spinning in their graves, seeing what has happened to their great accomplishment. Everyday we lose more and more freedoms.

  32. Shovelhead Says:

    Just want to say….All Feds are no good. All of them! I do not support one fucking Fed out there, Be it fed cops, any Administration, Congress…crooks every one. They are my enemy, will never help me in any way and will take away anything and everything they can from me. I take care of myself, my Family and Brothers. They have proven time and time again, they can not be trusted.
    Stay free.

    FTW

  33. Gandalf Says:

    Oh… And Fuckhead. I probably don’t ride a motorcycle because before I could even have a drivers license I was busy fighting the niggers with 1%ers in adult Prisons. So suck my dick and don’t think for a second I can’t (or won’t) waste a white man just as fast… I LOVE baloney sandwiches and playing spades.

  34. Gandalf Says:

    @ No one Fuck head. U2 act like I’m calling your mom a whore and daddy a liar. Of course daddy Trump IS a liar but I’m sure mom is just doing table dances in that VIP room. True stupidity is thinking I actually might give a fuck what you ass holes think. Truth hurts and Republicans want Club members guns. It’s that simple fact that upsets you both so much. Go figure.

  35. white witch Says:

    @ no one,

    Hard to reason with someone who thinks stupider is a real word.
    you should try to get some facts before you argue something.
    registration is not confiscation. background checks are not confiscation.
    a little knowledge is dangerous, do some research my friend
    just saying.

    ride free
    white witch

  36. No one important Says:

    I’m done feeding the troll. I might as well try to teach my dog how to do algebra. I’d have a better outcome.

  37. Phuquehed Says:

    You’re worse than the ten year old brat who throws a hissy fit in a public place because he isn’t getting his way. Because you’ve got to be a thriteen year old brat who steals names from book/movie characters, starts to try to force people to see things his way, starts to call them names, and throws a hissy fit when he doesn’t get his way.

    Go the fuck away. You’re too stupid to see the not-so-subtle hints *everyone* has been giving you that the shit coming out of your mouth is stinking the place up, so here’s the least subtle message, go the fuck away. Step back, look at how no one has supported anything you’ve ever said. This place isn’t for whiny asshole thirteen year old brats who throw hissy fits and don’t own even a bicycle much less a motorcycle.

  38. Gandalf Says:

    My God No One, A and B are both pure speculation that you consider as FACT. C- They don’t want to take guns from Law abiding Club members is a FACT. Like I said before, Y’all would cut off your nose to spite your face. WTF?

  39. No one important Says:

    Stupid is as stupid does! Red flag laws cover anyone who is accused of anything by anyone. Your neighbor can call the turds and tell them, you’ve been acting crazy and saying crazy shit, and that’s it. Democrats not wanting to include “gang mmembers” into that oughta tell you something, a) that’s a percentage of their voter base, and b) they’d rather take them from average Americans. Not to mention MC’s aren’t “gangs” they’re clubs. BTW, all your democrat candidates are socialist. If you truly believe that’s a better way of life, why don’t you move to Venezuela? Then you can post about how good your bbq’d cat was that you had for dinner.

  40. Freebird Says:

    The elephant in the room question is what the fuck did they really do…..

    I’m not buying the fall on your sword bullshit

  41. Gandalf Says:

    “Read more: https://www.ammoland.com/2019/09/democrats-refuse-to-include-gang-members-in-red-flag-laws/#ixzz6BgLmRLmy
    Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
    Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook

    U.S.A. –-(Ammoland.com)- On 10 September 2019, Colorado Congressman Ken Buck (R-CO) offered an amendment to the proposed bill to create federal grants for “Red Flag” bills in the House of Representative. The amendment was offered in the Judiciary Committee. Representative Ken Buck’s introduction of the amendment occurs in the first minute and ten seconds of the video on C-Span. “Red Flag” bills allow police to confiscate guns from people with a mere accusation they may pose a threat. In Red Flag bills, there is little due process.
    An accusation is sufficient. No court appearance by the accused, or confrontation of witnesses, is required. There is no presumption of innocence. To regain their rights, the person accused has to prove they are “not* a danger. They may incur thousands of dollars of court costs to regain the property that was taken from them without due process.
    Representative Buck’s amendment would allow law enforcement agencies, on probable cause of a person belonging to a criminal gang, to use “Red Flag” laws to take guns from gang members.” Get your patch and check your guns at the door. Stupid fucking Republican boot lickers!

  42. No one important Says:

    Hey Gandalf, why don’t you curl up underneath your bilbo baggies blanket, and fall asleep watching the lord of the rings for the 278th time. Save your communist propaganda for when you call into NPR. The fact is that democrats are the ones going for a gun grab. Or maybe you haven’t seen what’s happening in Virginia, or missed where your beloved (fake Mexican) Beto has promised to take everyone’s AR’s and AK’s? Each time you wipe your semen of your keyboard, after watching hobbit porn, you type something stupider than the last. Oh, and don’t forget to read rebel’s following article about your great state. Go back to your dungeons and dragons nerd! And leave real men alone.

  43. Va. Bob Says:

    The [email protected] You mean the entity who pretty much caused this site to “jump the shark”?(hate to give the motherfucker credit,but there it is)

  44. The Kraut Says:

    I see the short bus has dropped a window licker with the diarrhea of the mouth problem off here for our amusement.

    yay us….

    The Kraut

  45. Gandalf Says:

    No matter how you slice it’s the “snowflakes” who hate these “gang” laws. Nobody is coming for your guns unless the Republicans put you on that gang list. I’m amazed at how some people can “cut off their nose to spite their face”. I got a friend released from Prison after 40 years by a Lib SCOTUS. STILL, he loves Trump. People are just stupid. That Waco gene pool must have spread.

  46. backintheday Says:

    @Phuquehed
    Padlocks? so, they can’t steal each other’s dope.

  47. backintheday Says:

    Garcetti is just another politician fucking idiot

  48. Phuquehed Says:

    Trebor and Paladin hit the fucking nail on the head with nukes.

    To further things along the lines Paladin went…

    Why are there padlocks on the lockers in police dressing/changing/shower rooms? They can’t trust other cops?

  49. Paladin Says:

    The fact of the matter is that if cops didn’t have such a penchant for lying, there would be no need for body cameras.

    Paladin

  50. Trebor Says:

    Moore says he doesnt mean this to go on for years or months.How long do Biker cases go?

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