Sutter Too White For Mayans MC

August 29, 2019

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Sutter Too White For Mayans MC

For the last decade FX has been shoveling the impeccable authenticity of its motorcycle club shows down everybody’s throats. The network was still at it Tuesday.

Kurt Sutter announced at the premiere of the first episode of the second season of the motorcycle outlaw telenovela, Mayans MC, that he will resign as the television program’s “showrunner.”

That means Sutter will no longer be responsible for the show’s management and creative content. Sutter will remain as a producer which means he will maintain a general interest in the show and will participate in its profits.

Mayans MC is the second motorcycle club drama Sutter has brought to FX. The first, the hugely successful Sons of Anarchy, was cablecast from 2008 to 2014. Mayans MC premiered last September. Everybody connected to SOA bragged that program was inspired by the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club. Throughout the run of that show, the Mayans MC was understood to be a stand in for the Mongols Motorcycle Club.

Elgin James

“It’s time for the white man to leave the building,” Sutter told the audience at the premiere at the Arclight Complex in Hollywood. He said he needed to quit “for this show to establish its own unique mythology, one that I believe can be more potent and relevant than Sons, it has to be guided by a fresh voice. A voice of color, a voice that is still haunted by the struggle. And that voice belongs to Elgin James.”

James was previously the show’s co-showrunner.

Sons was about working class white guys,” Sutter said, “and even though I didn’t grow up in a motorcycle club, I grew up in a working class white guy neighborhood. So, I always felt I could honor that world and I wasn’t full of shit. I knew I wanted to do this project and I wanted to bring in a voice that was real and that was not a white guy. I met with a lot of writers of mixed race, Latino. I met with Elgin … and if you know anything about Elgin, you know he’s the real deal, and he understands the Mayans and outlaw. He understands survival…. This guy knows the life.”

“We stay authentic to Latino culture. I don’t want some whitewashed type of dialect and visuals,” series star Clayton Cardenas told Variety.

The new season premieres next Tuesday night.

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29 Responses to “Sutter Too White For Mayans MC”

  1. Glenn Harley Says:

    Fuck that mutherfucker!

  2. Penguin Says:

    In this matter, TV shows and TV that makes “biker” stories, I can claim innocence. Gave up on TV after the demolition job the ultra-zionconz did…any similarity to reality was obviously mere coincidence. What, September 2001 to now…18 years TV free…

    I ought to have walked away from TV after November 22, 1963…

    They call these things “programs” – because they program the viewer to believe in fairytales and bs.

    eg Sirhan, Oswald, JFK Jr, Martin…the lest is as long as you like…

    Why Sirhan pleaded “guilty” makes a story we know… Beyond saying that I will not say – libel lawz an’ all…

    In sum> TV Lies. Think about the Lies…they frame a negative template that describes, approximately, them…lies and omissions say what’s not true, and over time, reveal the secrets…

    The Big Secret? They are the criminals…

  3. JOHN T COKOS Says:

    Hopefully IF there is a TV Turf War with SOA, those guys I used to see in NJ with the SOA Cuts coming out of their SUV’s will make their presence known…..

  4. Base Says:

    How progressive Kurt, how Nobel of you. So woke!

    Naw, not really. What Kurt has done is just shown what an ass clown he is. Just another Hollywood sock puppet spouting that same old crap of “white man bad”. Someone needs to point out to this woke brained washed cuck that most of the major innovations in the last couple century’s have come out of Europe and the United States by Anglo’s. Not to mention, he’s not really ‘quitting” just slipping into the shadows swinging from the testicles of another Hollywood douche Magoo

    Anyone who needs a good look at what the Democrats & the progressive left has envisioned for everyone? “Look to California”.

  5. Rapists Says:

    Funny how Kunt Sutter likes to speak for whites when it serves him. So very Jewish of you Kurt! Like Elgin you are not white. Neither of you are Latino either. You’re both leaches and Elgin is a rat. He rolled on his federal case and being the head of pedo-gang (Fuck Someone Underage) is nothing to be proud of. A wanna be black dude who’s never ridden a bike being the voice of Latino bikers?! OY VEY… Will the goym ever wake the fuck up!!! Ship is going down and Kurt is trying to get out of the way in hopes the stink doesn’t reach him but it’s too late.

  6. Hero Says:

    It’s not a coincidence that the Vagos trial is going on the same time the show season premier airs. I’m actually surprised that they didn’t do the Mongols trial around the same time.

  7. SlickBack Civilian Says:

    Betcha Harley sells less scooters this time around, tho…

  8. 78Airhead Says:

    I’m not a joiner but been around a long time. Many friends have been/are patched. Also, tv has never been my thing. That said, there will never be an accurate tv show as it’d be mostly dead air. Most of the MC life is no more or less interesting than being an elk or moose or what have you. Just with bikes.

  9. commonsense Says:

    Rebel thanks for the link. Two years ago I was working on the north slope in Alaska. 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off and making bank. While I was back in town I told this woman how much I liked this song. She says lets go to his show in Ventura in a month. I say I’m gone at work can’t make it. 2 weeks later I’m on the north slope temp -10 wind chill factor -20. I fire up my phone…nothing..it took a day but she was at Ventura theatre filming it. And it was him..made my day (or night because there was no sun)

  10. Rebel Says:

    Dear commonsense,

    Whatever turns you on.

    https://youtu.be/xPKJEDYDjqY

    Rebel

  11. commonsense Says:

    My adult daughter who lived with me use to watch SOA. She even dated a %1 which I discouraged because I told her the club comes first not her. Anyway that worked out fine but my best thing about the show was finding the song “come join the murder” by White Buffalo. A great song.

  12. stroker Says:

    I watched about 30 minutes of the 1st season 1st episode, and maybe 15 minutes of episode 2. Just enough to make sure I felt the same. I did, and do. When Sutter portrayed the Mayans as a cartel “step and fetch” club, I was done. As hard as most all clubs try to distance themselves from being thought of as drug dealers, here we have a tv fantasy openly embracing the image.
    Fuck that shit.

    CTL

  13. Mad Midget Says:

    @ Paladin

    Hah!!! As usual, you nailed it in technocolor!!! Always a pleasure to read you. Long may YOU ride!!!!

  14. Proud White Man Says:

    So sick and tired of all the anti white drivel coming out of Hollywood. Fuck Sutter and Elgin. High time for white men to stand up and be proud od’d who we are.

  15. Shovel Says:

    Instead of what Aging Rebel says sometimes I suspect he knows a lot more about Hispanic American society. One thing no one in Hollywood gets is that Chicanos respect mujeres – “give a chica a gun and she has your back.” White working class America is a victim of the State’s “Divide and Conquer; therefore no disrespect to the Hells Angels and Pagans and any other 1%er. Maybe Dobyns and “Koz” get it though probably not. But the Mayans TV show will not get “it” either unless maybe they hire some Mongols and Vagos as extras and pay attention to them including their ol’ ladies. Who doesn’t like having senoras around to show off for? Until Rebel says this show is different I will not waste my time watching it. No disrespect to Sutter and James. At least they know how to make enough money to buy a 40 of Corona every week. Watch and learn:

    1. East L.A. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6C0u5vezY0&list=PLUTZ59cNGpC_7tN-4RPkV0msRP6mqlTpj&index=21

    2. Mexican Americans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKMYZZFE_sI&list=PLUTZ59cNGpC8oNSRDMfFd3ANZEsYBDfFO&index=8

    3. Southern California https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6acdYyn94q8&list=PLUTZ59cNGpC8oNSRDMfFd3ANZEsYBDfFO&index=10

    4. Mexican Warriors https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwDg-WM6EsE&list=PLUTZ59cNGpC8oNSRDMfFd3ANZEsYBDfFO&index=23

    5. South Side https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me85V4dM-Ec&list=PLUTZ59cNGpC8oNSRDMfFd3ANZEsYBDfFO&index=28

  16. Stoney Says:

    I know its hard to do but the Mayans TV show is even worse than the SOA. Yes I did and will watch it with the same way I watched Rambo movies, no where near true but entertaining on a slow night. However the bike on the Mayans are lookers. LOL we even gave a name to those type of bikes ” Mayans Specials”.

  17. Sandmann Says:

    @Kranky Klaus

    Thank you for sharing details that you probably won’t find anywhere else, adding some stains to a very much whitewashed “former bad guy turned his life around” story

    I just read the Wikipedia article on Mr James which paints a very different picture than what you described. I have worked in PR for a couple of years and find the effort put in the re-telling of Mr James’s life recommendable, yet a wee bit too obvious…

    Don’t get me wrong – I wholeheartedly agree with the (allegedly) original purpose of FSU, but the way they and James’s story are presented sounds too much like Hollywood to me.

    Respect to the deserving,
    Tom

  18. growlingfhardt Says:

    Regarding SOA and Mayans:
    CIA Director William Casey said, “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” He said this at an early February 1981 meeting of the newly elected President Ronald Reagan with his new Cabinet Secretaries reporting to him on what they had learned about their Agencies in the first couple of weeks of the new administration. The meeting was in the Roosevelt Room in the West Wing of the White House, not far from the Cabinet Room. I (Barbara Honegger) was present at the meeting as Assistant to the Chief Domestic Policy Adviser to the President. On March 30, 1981, Ronald Reagan was shot and wounded by John Hinckley Jr. in Washington, D.C. Reagan was on the operating table for over 5 hours. Nancy Reagan later said, “Ronnie was never the same after that.” This ‘assassination attempt’ was the moment when Bush I and his ‘Power Group’ ‘took over’ the USA and ran it out of the Vice President’s Office, at least the part of the US Government/CIA rogue element they were running, although one could make the case the CIA also ‘took over’ the US Government on November 22, 1962.
    PS: “Idaho Transfer” was done in 1973, 4 years after “Easy Rider”, I was wrong about it predating it.

  19. LA1%er Says:

    And that elgin bitch aint even Latino. Fuck him and his white hero kurt. Two pieces of shit that love the smell of each other…

  20. I.J Says:

    @ Iron Rider….. HA thought SOA was so depicting of Club life they even stared and endorsed it! I think this is why Police, Judges and Polititions watch and take notes on each and every episode.

  21. Neuro Says:

    Fuck you Clayton Cardenas. Eat a plate of shit Elgin and Kurt. All three total douchebags=douchefest. Whitey Neuro

  22. Paladin Says:

    “Sons was about working class white guys,” Sutter said, “and even though I didn’t grow up in a motorcycle club, I grew up in a working class white guy neighborhood. So, I always felt I could honor that world and I wasn’t full of shit.

    Dear Mr. Sutter;

    You have no honor and are indeed full of shit.

    Paladin

  23. The Kraut Says:

    Didn’t watch SOA and I wont be tuning in to the latest pack of lies and BS on 2 wheels for the sheeples to drool over…

    Fox had a helluva good show years back with “Firefly”, good stories and characters were believable because it was set in a future yet to be.

    Also, part of the universe Firefly was set in featured the baddest MF’ers in the galaxy…The Reavers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaver_(Firefly)

    Respect to those who warrant respect

    Will,the Kraut

  24. Iron Rider Says:

    I get people are into escapism and are fascinated by MC’s but the depictions of MC’s in SOA and even worse this regurgitation are so far from reality it isn’t even funny. Christ MC members look at these show like they are a fucking cartoon and laugh at shit like these shows.

    I get Fox has high hope that Mayans will be a huge money maker from them in Ad spot buys, syndication and merchandising but it was like the Lottery they got lucky and hit the jackpot, it sure the heel doesnt mean it will happen twice, do us all a favour and let this shit go.

    One positive from the failure of Mayans, less and less idiots with Mayans MC fan gear running around playing bad as biker on their Chinese motorcycles

  25. Iron Rider Says:

    I get people are into escapism and are fascinated by MC’s but the depictions of MC’s in SOA and even worse this regurgitation are so far from reality it isn’t even funny. Christ MC members look at these show like they are a fucking cartoon and laugh at shit like these shows.

    I get Fox has high hope that Mayans will be a huge money maker from them in Ad spot buys, syndication and merchandising but it was like the Lottery they got lucky and hit the jackpot, it sure the heel doesnt mean it will happen twice, do us all a favor F

  26. Phuquehed Says:

    The shit-stain needs to just test the warning label on a plastic bag and quit wasting my good air finally. If he was any more stupid he’d have to be watered once a week and if he was any more useless he’d make the price of Pet Rocks skyrocket.

  27. jrino Says:

    Gee, that will make me watch the show about a bunch of beaners. “Now it’s real holmes”!

  28. Kranky Klaus Says:

    Fuck Elgin James! That punk started a skinhead gang in Boston called the FSU. Their alleged angle was “stamping out hate within the punk and hardcore community.” But in reality they were just a bunch of drug dealing bullies who beat the shit out of whoever they wanted whenever they wanted, regardless of creed, color, race, or taste in music. Absolute white thuggery at it’s finest. A lot of these dude’s became outlaws, while others remained chickenshit douche bags.

    Hey Elgin, your ego guarantees you will see this. God forgives, but a lot of people from the scene don’t! We know who you are and what you are. Whitewash your image alllllll you want, but we know the truth. Time is linear and grudges last forever.

    And I assume FSU supporters will see this as well and say “Ha! Lookit this goof. Got beat up at a show and never got over it.” Well, I was never at the business end of your arbitrary rat packs, but I’ve seen plenty of them and will never forget your tyranny. I hope you all get what’s yours.

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