Long Time Coming

November 7, 2017

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Long Time Coming

Two years, five months and 15 days after The Washington Post disgraced itself and the rest of American journalism with a fake news feature titled “Richie died, then Diesel, then Dog: An eyewitness to the Waco biker brawl.,” Bandido defendant Christopher Jacob Carrizal took the witness stand on his own behalf to gave a true eyewitness account of the Twin Peaks Mass Murder in Waco on May 17, 2015.

Compared to most of the witnesses in this trial, Carrizal was remarkably frank and candid about his life as a member of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. His account is supported by hard evidence including multiple aerial photographs. McLennan County Assistant District Attorney Michael Jarrett never even tried to dispute Carrizal’s account of the events that day. Instead, during a relentlessly snarky cross examination, Jarrett did try to belittle and deprecate Carrizal’s motives for being there.

Throughout the trial, Jarrett has mocked Carrizal for going to Waco that day rather than staying home in Dallas where he would have been safe. Presumably, that is what Jarret would have done.

Carrizal testified under direct examination for about two hours, during which time which time Jarrett raised two objections. Carrizal’s lawyer, Casie Gotro, has an endlessly responsive and sympathetic face with people she likes and she is at her best when she encourages witnesses to simply tell their stories.

Carrizal’s Account

Carrizal rode from Dallas to Waco with six other members of the Bandidos Dallas chapter including his uncle, David “3D” Martinez, who was the chapter president and his father, Christopher “Shovel” Carrizal. They also rode with members of three Bandidos support clubs. Jake Carrizal, who had recently become chapter vice-president rode at the front of the pack with his uncle.

Throughout this trial, prosecutors have made much of a text message Carrizal sent that morning telling other members of the pack to, “Bring tools guys.” Jarrett has been arguing for weeks that using the code word “tools” had to mean that Carrizal was hiding his true motives, which was to engage in a mutually agreed upon affray at the Twin Peaks. Today Carrizal said that if he had it to do over again he just would have said “guns.”

He told members of his pack to come to Waco armed because Interstate 35 between Dallas and Waco was a perilous passage. The Cossacks Motorcycle Club had put a $500 bounty on Bandidos vests and had recently run a Bandido named Rolando Campos off the road in Loreno, Texas about five miles south of Waco. Campos was very severely beaten by a dozen Cossacks. Jake Carrizal was carrying a two shot derringer,

Pretty Day

Carrizal remembered a 90 minute ride on a pretty day. He wasn’t going to wear a helmet but his mother had sent his custom painted, full face helmet with his father so he put it on. As he pulled into the Twin Peaks parking lot he never saw the restaurant was swarming with Cossacks until he was about to park his motorcycle. He was surrounded by a mob of Cossacks as he tried to back into a space. Cossacks pushed against the back of his bike and told him he couldn’t park there. “My feet were down and I was pushing back and there were Cossacks on every side of me.”

When he got off his bike he was crowded by Cossacks. So were his father and his uncle. “We were surrounded by dozens of Cossacks,” he said.

Cossacks separated him from the rest of his small pack.”I was completely surprised. I knew I had to get from the right side of my bike to where my uncle, my father and my brothers were. They were surrounded too.”

He managed to fight his way through “a sea of Cossacks.”

Big O

“The main Cossack, who I now know was Big O, (Cossack Nomad Owen Reeves) was talking to my uncle. They were yelling that we were blocking them in and taking their parking.”

Simultaneously, Jake Carrizal found himself face to face with a Cossack from the Hill County chapter.. “Be cool,” Jake Carrizal said. “Be cool.”

His uncle, told Reeves, “Get back on the porch. We’ll talk after our meeting.”

Reeves told David Martinez, “Get the fuck out of here,. fat ass.”

The Dallas chapter sergeant at arms took exception to that. “Wrecker said, ‘Hey! Don’t talk to my president like that.”

“A little Cossack started yelling at Wrecker. ‘Hey don’t talk to my Nomad like that.’ Then Big O hits Wrecker.”

No Way Out

“I knew there was no getting out of there. The guy in front of me hit me. I hit him back as hard as I could.”

A dozen Cossacks grabbed and punched at Jake Carrizal. They ripped the face shield from his helmet. “They had brass knuckles and they were trying to punch inside my helmet.” He tried to reach for a pocket knife but couldn’t get to it. While he was in the middle of a pile he heard shots go off. “I was waiting for a knife to go in me or a bullet to hit me.”

He was knocked down twice. While he was laying on the ground, Jacob Lee “Rattle Can” Rhyne tried to kill him. Jake Carrizal fired his derringer at Rhyne and missed. Two Waco police officers killed Rhyne first and saved Jake Carrizal’s life. Seven months later, Julie Lyons wrote in the Houston Press, “The details are sketchy, and Waco police haven’t done much to answer the lingering questions, but a melee involving an ‘outlaw’ club, the notorious Bandidos, left Rhyne dying in the parking lot of the Waco Twin Peaks, bleeding from bullet wounds to his neck and torso.”


Carrizal took cover behind a light pole and starting yelling for his father. When he yelled for “Dad,” nobody answered. So he yelled for “Shovel” and still nobody answered. He crawled under a truck and kept yelling for his father.

At that point in his testimony, Carrizal paused to wipe the tears from his face.

When the shooting stopped, he started moving his wounded club brothers closer to the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant on the other side of the parking lot. “The I saw two cops with my Dad in the middle between them.

“His shirt had been ripped off. He put his head in my lap.” The elder Carrizal thought he was dying. “He told me to take care of my mother. He told me to take care of my sons. He told me to take care of my brothers. I told him to shut up. That was the first time I ever said that to my Dad.”

Gotro asked Carrizal the same question the defense has been asking for the last five weeks. “Why didn’t you just leave…run away.”

“That’s my family. That’s my uncle. That’s my Dad. They wouldn’t have left me.” Jake Carrizal wiped his face again.

Three women in the gallery quietly wept.

There were no tears in the jury box.



70 Responses to “Long Time Coming”

  1. Paladin Says:


    I was never about “community policing”. I was about keeping the peace. There’s a difference. Community policing is a public relations campaign designed to force an Officer Friendly type of character onto members of the community. No one respects this type of officer because this type of officer is perceived to be dim and easily taken advantage of. This is a recipe for disaster in El Lay.

    I was about being tough but fair. If arriving at a situation where a body didn’t need to be buried or someone didn’t need to go to a hospital and I could reason with the parties involved, it was all good as long as I didn’t get called back. I made it crystal clear that if I got called back, everyone was going to jail. I’ve come across people carrying concealed guns without a permit. If they had no wants or warrants, I’d toss the gun in the trunk of their car and tell them to get a better holster. People have a God given right to self-defense. No one has the right to tell another that their life is not worth defending. That’s not right, nor is it fair.

    These days, cops are robots, taking everyone to jail, they tow their Department’s line, never thinking about the lives they forever change or ruin. Criminality within police departments is dramatically on the rise. At the moment LAPD is investigating one of their officers caught red handed planting dope in a suspect’s wallet. The officer thought he had shut his bodycam off. He hadn’t and the incident was recorded. The ex-sheriff, Under Sheriff, and a number of deputies from my former Department were all sentenced to federal prison for obstruction and conspiracy to cover up inmate abuses under color of authority at the Men’s Central Jail in downtown Los Angeles.

    I retired August 31, 2011. I’m told by those still working that I left at the right time.

    Long May You Ride,


  2. RLG Says:

    Dear Paladin,

    Thank you for the frank and interesting response. I am kinda sad you are not active anymore, as you have a good perspective on community policing.

    Since WWII, the expansion of the executive branch is frightening.

    As a political activist I have often been suppressed by law enforcement while exercising my constitutionally protected rights. I am non-violent. I have also made common cause with the weakest people in our society who are regularly abused by law enforcement at various levels. None the less, I always maintain that LE are human and deserve human rights.

    Unfortunately LE often enforces the whims of the rich and powerful to the detriment of the public interest. And in the spirit of the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights I have promoted peaceful civil disobedience to the orders of the executive branch and the “boots on the ground” enforcing policy. The lines get blurred between the dangerous class and the dissident.

    All this being said, I don’t want to live in a state of nature.

    Be well,


  3. Paladin Says:


    My reply to your post is locked down in Rebel’s moderation jail./


  4. Paladin Says:


    First, I have no blanket brothers in blue. I have a select couple of friends that are active law enforcement, one or two that are retired law enforcement, a couple that are active and retired military “specialists” and I have a couple of friends that have never been involved in law enforcement or the military. I see very few of them on any kind of a regular basis. I tend to keep my own counsel.

    In answer to your question: Feds are for the most part cops that could’t compete in the civilian world. There was a time when one had to have graduated from law school in order to become an FBI agent. Who is going to spend all that money going to law school and then start out at a GS-10, which is now about $45,000 a year?

    I don’t know where ATF agents come from. I’m convinced that ATF agents started out as special needs children. They then grew up to be special needs adults. U.S. Marshall’s attempt to apprehend those that escape or that others can’t catch. A good many U.S. Marshell’s started out employed in the lost & found section of department stores.

    The commonality shared by all of the above is that they don’t work the streets on a day in, day out basis. As a result, their officer safety skills are pretty much non-existent and they don’t work well with others. Nor do they know how to relate to anyone but themselves. They specialize in alienating people they come in contact with, including the locals that are tasked to work with them. In order to get their way, I have found that the feds tend to lie a lot. Worst of all, they’re all confidence men / women. They lie and cheat in order to gain one’s trust and confidence. It doesn’t get any lower than that.

    When I was a kid I ran around with a crew of other kids, and as kids we’d do the stupid shit that kids do. When the cops showed up they’d take us home and let our parents deal with us instead of taking us to jail. We would have much preferred the safety of the jail. These old heads were more interested in keeping the peace than taking everyone to jail. When I became a deputy sheriff I used the cops I came in contact with as a kid as role models. I always thought that if I could get someone to do the right thing, we’d both win. That individual would get to go home, food wouldn’t be taken off of that person’s family plate and I wouldn’t have to do a lot of bullshit paperwork. I still believe that not everyone has to go to jail

    Long May You Ride,


  5. RLG Says:

    Dear Paladin,

    I am curious if/why not you consider the feds your brothers in blue?

    Thank you for posting,


  6. ed Says:

    As far as the jury is concerned, the Bandidos are a gang. They have had that pounded into their oversized Texas assed egos forever. The Texas line of justice is whatever they feel it should be.

  7. Paladin Says:

    Big V,

    Good to hear from you, it’s been a while. I see you’re still grinding on that old ax of yours. In order to set you straight, the answers to your questions are as follows:

    Yes, I’m a retired deputy sheriff.

    Yes, I manufacture firearms and hold an 07 FFL. I also hold a Special Occupational Taxpayer certificate which licenses me to manufacture and deal in NFA firearms and suppressors.

    No, I’m not cozy with the ATF. I’m licensed through the ATF. I’m not cozy with the DMV, even though I have a drivers license. And no, as an FFL holder my home, vehicle and business are not subject to a an ATF search 24/7.

    No, I have never jammed anyone up or turned my back, allowing it to happen.

    No, I have never testified against my brothers in blue.

    Yes, I have worked a lot of cases, bringing justice to those that have been jammed up by cops, cops that have planted evidence, falsified police reports, used excessive force, etc.

    Yes, I get paid for the work I do. However, I offered to work the Carrizal case free of charge. Who know? If someone like me had been working on your case, you might not have lost those seven years.

    No, I don’t consider myself a 2017 version of Robert Ford. When having or having had to fight with guns, I’ve never shot anyone in the back.

    Yes, I still stand by my post that you quoted from a thread long ago.

    I have never made any attempt to hide my past or present from anyone on this page or anywhere else for that matter. All the questions you asked, you already new the answers to. So, what’s your point? If you somehow think you’re the bearer of headline news, you’re not.

    Long May You Ride,


  8. Mark Says:

    The rules are the state gets to go first and then the defense and if the state wants to go at it again they can. I don’t get it, if someone is innocent until proved guilty, why is the deck stacked agasinst the innocent so deeply. The state has all the cops and investigators and expert (paid liars) with an unlimited budget. Everything about the defense, is very limited. What an injustice but that’s the rules of the courts.

    david. your point is well taking and the personal attack on the defence lawyer mocking her choice of words is dirty pool and the judge should have stepped in and shut that down and made him apologize for such a cheap shot.

  9. david Says:

    Monkey-Boy Reyna went beyond his usual shit-mouth statements during his SECOND closing argument attacking Gotro for her use of the word “courage”.

    Reyna asked her if the word ARROGANCE would be a better one to use. Of course, the word applies to Monkey-Boy. This shit couldn’t even be made up.

  10. Iron Rider Says:

    @ Hangaround

    I found that unusual myself that the DA was allowed to closing arguments, I myself have seen each side give one each, but never one side getting to go twice at closing. So whether that is the norm or good ole Judge Johnson giving Reyna some more help remains to be seen but it definitely seems strange as well to me as well

    Maybe we should take it as a sign that prosecutions case is in more trouble than we realize either that or Reyna just couldn’t resist doing a little showboating

  11. Mark Says:

    I’m looking foreward to hearing what you have to say about the closing arguments because I don’t trust the, fake news and Tommy with the trib is one of them. Tommy had to have left a lot out of what transpired.

  12. RLG Says:

    This is probably the wrong article to make this comment, but how many times did Bandits attack Cossacks prior to that day?

    I am not implying this wasn’t an ambush.

    Great reporting, thank you Rebel.

  13. Dasein Says:

    A “two shot derringer” is not an offensive weapon. Who would fire two puny rounds at another, then at that point be effectively disarmed? Clearly such a “weapon” is Defensive in nature. This fact alone refutes the prosecution’s contention that Mr Carrizal came to start something, or even really expect much of an attack. Weighted gloves are probably a better defense than a two shot derringer.

  14. Gandalf Says:

    Sorry Oldskewl, Parole/Probation. I use those 2 words to mean Parole. Never been on probation. Did 10+ on Parole. It ain’t pretty and getting harder every year. I finished 20+ years ago. I Don’t commit crimes and don’t carry a gun but like the fact lots of my friends do. I wear a 99% patch now. LOl I’m old.. Finished long ago “When Prison was Prison”

  15. Hangaround Says:

    Interesting that the prosecution got 2 closing arguments and that Casie had to present in the middle. I thought standard procedure was that each side got 1 closing argument and that the defense went last. Not happy about Reyna getting the final word before deliberations.

    Meanwhile here is some previous ineptitude from Wacos own Michael Jarrett.


  16. BigV Says:

    Because we can no longer edit posts, allow me to finish my sentence I left hanging: the cop that lied and planted 6 5mg Adderall on me, is now also a defense consultant.

  17. BigV Says:

    I swore off posting here. I swore off reading here. I swore off ever having contact on this page as I was told- if you roll around with pigs, you’re bound to get shit on you. I finally had someone up the line lay that out for me.


    Let me get this straight:

    You’re a retired LE ?

    You’re an FFL too ?

    To be an FFL you can be searched 24/7 including your vehicles and you have to stay in the good graces with ATF less when they examine your 4473 log books bye-bye goes FFL. Means you have to stay pretty cosy with ATF.

    You didn’t jamb up anyone or turn your back to another cop jambing someone up ?

    You talk a good game, but man oh man- I can never trust a cop. I’ve had my scalp opened up by two and I’ve paid 18k in bonds for shit I didn’t do. I washed 7 years down the drain because of lying cop who wanted to get some glory, then when the glory didn’t come, came the lies. He is a

    You know how you tell a member of the just-us system is lying… That’s a good anecdote too.

    You once said a witness cooperates out of the goodness of their heart, a snitch has personal gain. When you testified against your brothers in blue were you a snitch then, or were you a paid investigator or a paid expert witness or do you just collect your LE pension and go around, “Have Gun, Will Travel” bring those “bad” cops to justice ?

    Or to paraphrase someone else who once asked the same question: Are you 2017’s Robert Ford ?

    Paladin Says:
    March 16, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    @Just another patch holder in the end,

    I consider a SNITCH to be a person that would role on another for personal gain (Joe Dillulio comes to mind). I believe any information gathered from SNITCHES to lack credibility, due to the SNITCH’S motivation.

    I consider a witness to be a person that has information that can help close an investigation, or reopen a previously closed investigation. I believe that information gathered from a witness to be credible, due to the absence of a desire for personal gain, or not in the process of trying to play a game of “let’s make a deal”.

    I understand that some people think that SNITCH/witness are the same thing, and it’s a matter of semantics. I just happen to think there’s a difference.

    Long May You Ride (to those that deserve to),


  18. oldskewl Says:

    Gandalf Says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:12 pm
    I was actually just saying 2 years prison time is better than long probation because probation can easily be prison time”

    Probation ain’t shit. It’s Parole when you can get fucked at moments notice. Parole officers jack off to the thought of sending you back to the pen.

    Probation is usually “informal” and only applies if you get in trouble again. They usually don’t come knocking or checking on you unlike Parole where you’re monitored and back in orange for a speeding ticket.

  19. The 906 Says:

    I came across this site by happy accident in January 2011 while laid up after my back surgery and have been coming back every day since. The 1st book I bought was The Aging Rebel then ended up buying Twilight of the Outlaws and Out Bad. First off thank you for writing them in a way an idiot like me could understand and thank you for everything you do. This has changed my whole outlook not only on myself but my entire surroundings. I hadn’t been on a motorcycle since an 8 point buck knocked me off my old CB750 on my way to school. I was 17 years old at the time. 2 years ago much to my old lady’s surprise and much anger, I came home with a 2000 Road King and I haven’t looked back and luckily she came around too and enjoys the ride. I have learned a lot just from reading the comments about the protocol and respect especially from the regulars that comment here and for that I thank every one of you. Sorry for going off track with this but if it wasn’t for this blog I wouldn’t have a clue what was going on in Waco. Around here if you ask someone about Waco they will tell you about some fucking show on HGTV. Anyway Thank you all.

    Much respect
    The 906

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