The New, New Improved Dialogical Saloon

October 14, 2017

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The New, New Improved Dialogical Saloon

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164 Responses to “The New, New Improved Dialogical Saloon”

  1. SharkRib Says:

    That’s funny. Like those Lincoln commercials with that doofus actor trying to be deep and cool while driving a dorky car.

  2. Austin Says:

    So… the MoFoCo has a plan!!

    They are going to HIRE PEOPLE TO RIDE THEIR PRODUCT!! and tweet!


  3. SharkRib Says:

    To your point about EPA muffler-sniffers I think EPA sued HD which entered into a settlement involving HD agreeing not to install Screaming Eagle fuel modules on bikes its dealers sell. Maybe that settlement is behind the run around Thump got.

  4. Shovelhead Says:

    Wonder what exhausts they use for Harley’s destined for some Countries where things aren’t so strict? Or maybe they just don’t change anything, no matter where they’re being shipped.

  5. Filburt Says:

    Harley-Davidson inc. and their love affair with electric scooters for India will come back to bite them in the ass… already started.

  6. Sieg Says:

    Shovelhead, the factory has to make the muffler-sniffers from the EPA happy when they design a bike. To do that they gotta balance fuel and exhaust systems. A decent bit of performance gets lost, especially on carburated models. I gotta imagine the factory knows people are gonna tweak the bikes, change pipes, fuel-delivery, whatever, so all they can do is tell ya “okay, go for it…but kiss yer warranty goodbye”. Pretty much every vehicle mfg in the world does the same, bikes, cars, road-graders, they all have that modification clause.
    Don’t make it any more palatable, but…


  7. Shovelhead Says:

    I’ve always heard that Brand new Harleys (Never had one) run like shit with the stock pipes and are designed by the company with the knowledge that consumers will replace the stock pipes with aftermarket ones. Don’t really know if this is true but if it is, then HD’s factory warrantee is worthless. Kinda sounds like a scam! If the company knows you’re going to replace the pipes and specifically puts in the warrantee that if you do replace the pipes it voids the warrantee, then I’d say that’s a fucking bullshit scam!

    I prefer older bikes, Used to ride Pans but got tired of kick starting, so been riding Shovels for years now. My ’73 FLH still runs great. But, of course my old shovel isn’t going to keep up with the pack. So I understand the need for newer bikes. I do have an ’06 Lowrider for long runs only.
    Not the best bike out there, but serves it’s purpose.
    Much more fun riding older bikes.

  8. Sieg Says:

    thump, the warranty bit has been like that as long as I can remember, and the first time I knew anyone that had contact with HD about a warranty claim was in 1977. It was denied on pretty much the same grounds.

    Right or wrong, I’m afraid you got an uphill battle on this one. They’ll say that the pipes caused the bike to run hotter, the heat affected the gasket, yadda yadda yadda and on like that.

    Good luck.


  9. bcnasty Says:

    @ Thump,
    Contact your regional Harley Davidson representative and remind him of the Magnuson- Moss warranty act.


  10. SharkRib Says:

    @ Thump,
    What a crock from Harley. What does an aftermarket pipe have to do with a defective head gasket? How can they bail on their warranty? Lawsuit. This just reinforces what I believe. Still riding a 1994 Sportster with carburated 1200 Evo, seems bullet proof. Every time I convince myself it is too small, or needs another gear, I hear a story like yours. Thought maybe the Milwaukee Eight was an improvement on the Twin Cam and was thinking of getting a new Low Rider. Maybe not. Maybe I need to look for an old FXR. Man I hope things work out with your bike.

  11. Sieg Says:

    Paladin, Chiraq had ordinances forbidding ANY handguns and regulating the shit out of long-guns for decades. I’m guessing that Deerfield modeled their ordinance on Chiraq’s.


  12. Thump Says:

    Holy shit does Harley suck! I have a 2017 Street Glide Special. After Less than a year of riding it and putting 9,000 miles on it the rear head gasket started blowing oil like Niagra Falls. Took it in to get it checked out at the dealership and they said the gasket had slipped and screwed up the piston. They also told me Harley will not cover the repairs under warranty because I put aftermarket pipes on it and they required a differed tune on the bike. I chose the Vance & Hines Fuelpak. Is there one Harley on the road that doesn’t have aftermarket pipes on? I haven’t seen one. This is just a way to screw their own customers out of paying for warranty issues. They tell me that they only started doing this a couple of years ago. This is a warning to all Harley owners and the manufacturers of aftermarket exhausts and tuners. HARLEY WILL DENY WARRANTY CLAIMS IF YOU PUT AFTERMARKET PIPES ON YOUR BIKE! I suspect this knowledge will put a dent into sales of these products and the manufacturers will be none too happy. Get ready for lawsuits MOCO! I paid well over $20,000 for what is now a fucking paper weight. Fuck Harley!

  13. Austin Says:

    In fhe IE today?? Git on down to Lake Perris right now for the Hippy Killer Hoedown! Its grand!

  14. Paladin Says:

    @ Dasein;

    If the State of IL has a preemption clause, the Deerfield ordinance won’t be enforceable. Any attempt by the town of Deerfield to enforce their ordinance will open Deerfield to civil liability.

    Long May You Ride,


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