Waco Crescendo Building

May 18, 2016

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Waco Crescendo Building

At this point the Twin Peaks case in Waco has become a buffalo on the barbecue. A big buffalo.

It is not possible to cover all the news in the case this week. It is more reasonable to give readers some indication of the broad strokes and big shapes of what is going on.

Saw the buffalo into quarters and call the big pieces: The criminal cases; the federal civil rights cases; the liability cases; and the sudden renewal of interest in the case by the Texas and national press.

News

Numerous major news outlets, including the Los Angeles Times, the Austin American-Statesman, the Houston Chronicle and CNN. have turned their attention to Waco this week

Today the New York Times published a 1,500 word human interest piece titled “One Year After Shootout, Waco’s Bikers Struggle to Move On.” You can read the Times story here.

The New York Times piece includes some half-assed errors. For example, it identifies “Cody K. Ledbetter, 27, (as) a member of the Cossacks who was arrested and who watched as Mr. (Daniel) Boyett, his stepfather, was executed by a biker.” That’s a pretty big and inflammatory goof for the holiest of America’s national newspapers. Boyett was shot in the head twice by police and Ledbetter told investigators he had been separated from his father and did not see him die.

But facts have always been like pennies in this case. Nobody has shown much interest in picking them up and looking at them.  Waco is a big, sexy, biker case and the big, sexy, news outlets think readers and viewers still want to read and see more. And that’s not good for the Waco prosecutors who have been in their safe space since about last June. It is only a matter of time before somebody starts picking up pennies. Maybe as soon as this week.

Civil Rights

The New York Times calls attention to a defendant named Diego N. Obledo. Obledo was charged with organized criminal conspiracy, spent more than two weeks in jail, lost an $80,000 per year job, lost a chance at a house and had his life ruined because he was wearing a Bandidos tee shirt he had bought, the Times reports, “the day before at an auto-parts store.”

Last Friday, Obledo became the seventh defendant in the case to file a federal civil rights lawsuit against Waco Police Chief Brent Stroman, Waco detective Manuel Chavez and McLennan County District Attorney Abelino Reyna for false arrest.

According to Obledo’s attorney, Don Tittle, Obledo was a hang around with the Valerosos Motorcycle Club last May. He wasn’t carrying a gun but according to Tittle, he “was carrying a pocket version of the New Testament which apparently was enough for Reyna, Stroman and Chavez to decide that he was up to no good that day. Diego is a father of six.”

Tittle said, “Over the next few months I will be filing many more of these cases on behalf of bikers arrested at Twin Peaks. Right now, a number of those who badly want to file suit are still fearing retaliation but that is slowly subsiding with each passing day.”

All the civil rights suits are currently being litigated in Austin. Reyna, Stroman and Chavez have filed motions to have the suits dismissed, or moved to Reyna-friendly Waco so they can be tried there, or delayed until after all the criminal trials in the case have been held. The way the case has been going, most of the defendants will die of natural causes before justice “Waco Style” allows them the chance to clear their good names.

Criminal And Liability Cases

The criminal defendants remain in limbo. One-hundred-fifty seven men have been indicted. Thirty-eight of the original indictees have not yet been indicted but Waco officials seem to be searching for ways to pin a big charge on all of them. Antecedent probability also suggests people yet to be named or previously associated with the case may find up looking at life in prison for murder.

The civil liability cases filed against the Waco Twin Peaks franchise have become a hornet’s nest. Police spokesman W. Patrick Swanton and other Waco officials went out of their way vilify the restaurant, its owners and managers after the gun battle in the parking lot. The Twin Peaks has responded that “the  Texas  Department of  Public  Safety, Waco  Police  Department, and other  law enforcement agencies  who  were actively involved  in the incident” encouraged “rival motorcycle groups to attend the otherwise intended peaceable assembly at the restaurant, thereby bringing about the violent confrontation” and contributed to the mayhem “through their negligent use of firearms, negligent tactics in the manner in which they responded to a confrontation of their own creation and what they now claim was a known risk of violence.”

Chew on all that. Chew slowly. There is going to be plenty more in the coming days.

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35 Responses to “Waco Crescendo Building”

  1. Anon Says:

    http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Waco-bikers-now-free-to-speak-to-the-press-8203086.php

    A Texas appeals court has thrown out a gag order that prohibited bikers and their lawyers, charged in a massive, deadly melee at the Twin Peaks in Waco last year, from being able to speak to the press.

  2. XYZ Says:

    Hearing to disqualify DA from Twin Peaks shootout case postponed

    http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/hearing-to-disqualify-da-from-twin-peaks-shootout-case-postponed/article_b24ed9ca-9fdd-568e-b4c0-0f6e5c62d2db.html

    Two Waco police officers who are unavailable to testify Monday have forced the postponement of a hearing at which a biker arrested in the Twin Peaks shootout is seeking to disqualify McLennan County District Attorney Abel Reyna from prosecuting the cases.

    The hearing, originally set for Monday in Waco’s 54th State District Court, was rescheduled Friday for Aug. 8.

  3. TX_Biker Says:

    @ T Hell, I afraid you are right. My hope is that in time, and with the right outcome of the Waco tragedy, that will change.

    Respects

  4. Gandalf Says:

    @ Neuro. Yes… That’s what I was trying to say. It was mentioned early on that they were. It was hard to believe IMHO but I am less than a nobody who knows nothing except how Texans think. I respect ALL 1% Clubs. And respect Rebel&Co even more. I’m thinking Rebel knows EXACTLY who that CI at Twin Peaks is… I hope that CI is Nervous. :) I think so. ;)

  5. Neuro Says:

    The sacks were not trying to join the Red&White Fleet.

  6. Gandalf Says:

    @ TX_Biker. 100% True. I have lived in Texas 25 years and follow the News more than most. I can’t remember ANY stories about the Bandidos doing bad things. I can assure everyone that JQP (me) is more worried about being jacked up by LE than Bandits. Texans Loves their “outlaws” that’s a fact. The Bandidos are OUR “outlaws” the honest/good kind of outlaw that we like. No offence to the HA but the idea that they could patch over the Cossacks without Texans (JQP and LE) not caring seems very strange to me givin the Texans opinion of outsiders and Cali people in General. What I am saying is that Texans Love our Bandidos and take offense when outsiders mess with them. The Cossacks were/are Texans too but allowed others to influence their actions. The Cossacks would have been better served if they simply would have supported their fellow Texans instead of fighting them. THAT was a leadership decision… and a bad one. Obviously.

  7. James Crawford Says:

    Re, Meh.

    Obviously; there must have been at least one motorcyclist around to cause this.

    http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/05/state_police_investigating_por.html#incart_river_index

    This of course is not as reprehensible as the case a few years back when a Portland cop wounded his wife in an obscene manner because he neglected to unload his twelve gauge before using it as sex toy. My suggestion that the Portland police Institute a program to distribute Kevlar condoms to their officers so that they can practice safe shotgun sex was not appreciated.

  8. T Hell Says:

    @TX Biker,
    What you said makes complete sense to anyone that has been in or around almost every club in the country but to LE you can’t have a good guy without a bad guy, you can’t have an fight without an enemy. The police mentality is bikers are all drug dealing criminal scum it’s much more convenient to blame them a common visible enemy is an easy target.

    Respects to you and your club…

  9. Shovelhead Says:

    TX_Biker,

    Well said…Respect to you and your Brothers.

  10. TX_Biker Says:

    On the red and gold side these are my friends and brothers. Speculate all you want but generally here in Texas the public and clubs get along fine. We are always shown respect and give it in return. I have been riding with these men for almost ten years and all of them just want to ride with their brothers and are always there when someone needs them and not just for their brothers but for their communities as well. Yeah some of us mess up, but it’s not a criminal enterprise with a plan. It is individuals that screw up and we do our best to keep that from happening. Sometimes I can’t read what y’all write objectively.

  11. Meh Says:

    popeye wrote:
    “With all Swantons talk about club members shooting at cops, I cant remember the last time someone in a club killed a cop.”

    US cops count all cop kills in the Northern Hemisphere as biker-related because there are motorcycles, bikers and cops in that hemisphere.

    Cop-on-cop accidental shoots are counted as biker v. cop because biker blood chemistry is high in iron and presumed to have contracting effects on trigger mechanisms present within a fifty mile radius. Revolvers have been know to fire at full auto and three-round burst cycles when this happens.

    Bikers radiate Chi which is presumed to induce LEO muscular contractions of the trigger finger, typically in conjunction with envious penile engorgement. Chi is indifferent to magnetism so it may trigger spontaneous beatdowns with both wooden and synthetic batons and any footwear material.

    Being a biker is similar to dragging an electromagnet through a scrapyard, except scrap metal doesn’t press charges.

  12. popeye Says:

    With all Swantons talk about club members shooting at cops, I cant remember the last time someone in a club killed a cop. Cops are much safer out in front of a club house than on the streets of most any black neighborhoods.

  13. Oceans Says:

    There seemed to be a concerted effort from the get go to exploit this confederation of bikers. The LE intentions where to disrupt the proceeding and cause havoc, which they duly did by killing innocence people and detaining there rest including metadata. There actions are deplorable and totally unacceptable, there disregard for human lives and personal property whistle discharging hi tech weaponry aimlessly into a melee of civilians is beyond comprehension.There absolute recklessness is surreal considering there so called professional tax dollars training that they received….. its a complete fuck up on there behalf and hopefully through public outrage some of these cowards will be brought to justice…. bullies with badges are lower than whale shit IMHO

    Ride to live

    Live to Ride

    Oceans

  14. Gandalf Says:

    @ Ted Unlis. 1 Question. If the Zookeeper puts the lion in the Bear cage then kills the lion and bear for trying to kill each other exactly who is responsible? The Lion or the Bear? MORON!

  15. Meh Says:

    Even if we hypothetically accepted a “Ted Unlis” version of events the subsequent illegal conduct by Waco was not remotely justified by events or by any risk of allowing most charged defendants to be promptly freed on reasonable bond or personal recognizance.

    Have some Eight Amendment:

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/eighth_amendment

    “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

    “Arrest ’em all, jail ’em under punitive bail and let the trial(s) sort it out YEARS later” is NOT how the system is supposed to work.

    I don’t think anyone here greatly objects if CONSENTING adults (other than our own friends and brothers who we miss losing) kill each other in a war whose terms they de-facto accept by joining a one hundred percent volunteer outsider culture. No one accidentally wakes up one day as a biker. It’s a shitload of work to earn a place in an honor culture with a lot more rules than the rest of the world.

    Part of freeing yourself from law is accepting the sword as law. Nothing new in history and rather more honest than political systems where the State has both sword and law.

    We should also remember that real world biker violence rate is fucking tiny! Chicago lost more KIA in one routine weekend than all the bikers in America lose in one day. Nine dead is a skirmish, not the beach at Betio.

    The question for civil libertarians is how the State and its minions behave. If the State committed murder, that’s unacceptable and must be dealt with legally. If the State broke laws, that must be dealt with legally. Doing so protects EVERY American, even Ted Unlis.

    Ted, if bikers snuff each other it’s their business unless it becomes a public mess (which is part of the point of having an outsider culture with self-contained customs and rules) but even when it does go public the binary idea one side is a beacon of virtue and the other a cesspool of sin is self-evidently absurd.

    To me as a libertarian the legal canary in the Constitutional coal mine is what government does to people most of the public have zero reason to miss. The government acts to expand its authority over EVERYONE, using targets most people have no reason to identify with. The most popular target was brown people, but they started getting VERY pissed off and some of them shoot back with enthusiasm. Marginal white and mixed people are next in line for Surveillance State attention. Their rights are often violated with impunity.

    The Teds of the world think it can’t happen to them. What about very straight-arrow gunsmiths who have been raided by ATF for shits and grins? Fortunately the NRA has the ILA and is an effective lobby.

    Bikers aren’t organized as a group to lobby and scare politicians. That forces them to react to events with lawfare and puts them at disadvantage.

  16. James Crawford Says:

    Re Wilson,

    The idea that Boyett was shot by police is precisely the type of wrongful killing that one would expect in such a situation. I am an extremely competent shooter who has shot Elk at 950 meters that was running when I put a bullet through its spine. I will concede that while most cops can barely hit the broadside of a barn, some are proficient shooters. However; the idea that a randonly selected group of police were able to not only hit their intended targets during this melee but properly distinguish between aggressors and victims not to mentioned waitresses and uninvolved patrons is ludicrous.

    When you factor in the now established fact that LE incited this conflict by inviting the Cossacks to an event that they were not welcome at, then the cop cul0abolity is off the scale.

    I want to see ALL video from ALL cameras to document the circumstances of all shootings.

  17. wilson Says:

    >No love for bacon on my part but keeping it real, bikers should be expected NOT to murder each other in public and the final blame for any trigger pulling is on those who pulled the triggers. Every time some bikers act like chimps it’s a gift to the police state

    But in asserting that Boyett was shot by police, rebel is upping the ante way beyond what you’re talking about. It’s one thing to argue whether police should’ve acted before the confrontation to prevent violence. Rebel is now implicating them in a death that happened in the first several seconds, and occurred deep in the crowd, in an area that would have been tough for the police even to see; it’s very difficult to attribute a shot like that to measured retaliation against a violent actor.

    The two deaths I had pretty confidently attributed to police were both active shooters. But I couldn’t confidently say what happened to several of the men who died. If it can be shown that law enforcement shot Boyett, we have a very different storyline here.

  18. wilson Says:

    As a related question, rebel, do you know how many camera angles have not been released to the public yet? There’s at least one other angle I’d like to see, that I know of from brief news footage – I think it was a 2 or 3-second clip in a CNN piece, that seemed to have been from a camera on the shopping-center side of the Don Carlos (that’s north, right?).

    That seemed to be an angle that would be useful, if it was in position when the first shots were fired. It was somewhat higher, so it might give more insight into what is happening in that fairly dense crowd. If Boyett falls on camera and there’s no one nearby pointing a gun his way, obviously that would be interesting evidence for the idea police shot him.

  19. wilson Says:

    I hadn’t seen you assert before that Boyett was shot by police. What do you base that on?

    I’m not saying you’re wrong. Just wondering the basis. If I remember (my notes are at home), he’s one of the first 2-3 to fall, and is not in view on the patio cameras or the ‘pole camera’ when shot. I had a surmise about whether he was one of the ones who fell and lay in view of the patio camera, but ultimately I wasn’t sure I was right about that.

    He may be visible somewhere in the dash cam, but I’ve never been able to figure out precisely where, or make much sense of initial jumble in that footage. It’s so far away and with such a big crowd that you can’t see much more than heads, and I assume Boyett is closer to the restaurant, not in the ‘first rank’ of people you can see from the dash cam.

  20. Comment Says:

    It’s nit nice to talk with your mouth full Ted. Please chew quietly with your moth closed.

  21. Paula Carroll Swann Says:

    ONLY THE DOJ CAN FILE SUIT ON POLICE MISCONDUCT.
    The Criminal Section
    U.S.Department of Justice
    P.O. Box 66018
    Washington, DC 20035-6018
    The DA, WPD & DPS Conspired under the “COLOR OF LAW” with willful malfeasance conspired to deprive 201 American Citizens rights protected by the Constitution of the United States (18 U.S.C. 241,242). Excessive use of force in killing 9 injured 20 and the false arrest of 193 innocent victims. In the eyes of the law this is called PRE-MEDITATED MURDER.

    Civil Rights Division
    U.S Department of Justice
    P.O. Box 66560
    Washington, DC 20035-6560
    The DA, WPD & DPS Conspired & engaged depriving 201 American Citizens of their rights protected by the Constitution of the United States ( 42 U.S.C. 14141).using excessive force & unjustified arrest. Under Title VI of the Civil Rights Act. 1964 and the OJP Program Statute together, these laws prohibit DISCRIMINATION of the National Origin (42 U.S.C. 2000d, etc seq. And U.S.C. 3789d (C) ).These laws prohibit both individual instances and pattern of practice of discrimination misconduct.
    Example treating people differently because of national origin (Biker). The misconduct covered by Title VI of excessive force discriminatory treatment and unjustified arrest.

  22. Celt Says:

    Ted Unlis, I saw your FB page, you piece of shit. You’ve been talking crap about this since last year. You must be a cop or a cop sucker…..

  23. tiopirata Says:

    @Ted Unlis
    Even you don’t believe that you lying piece of shit. You know the facts as well as any of us and they most demonstrably are not what you say here.
    You can usefully contribute by either being honest or by killing yourself, neither of which you have the balls to do.
    Fuck off and die
    Tio Pirata 1%er

  24. Ted Unlis Says:

    Absolutely amazing, as if repeating the same old tired delusional propaganda to each other will somehow alter the reality of overwhelming video evidence that will be presented to multiple criminal and civil juries in the coming months and years which clearly depicts and conclusively proves that the death and carnage a year ago at the Twin Peaks in Waco was the result of a riotous biker brawl that devolved into biker on biker mass murder seconds after it began.

  25. Meh Says:

    I’m thinking Gandalf is right. I agree the mass arrest decision considered the opportunity to get metadata because cross-referencing that many phones had to be a fucking gold mine!

    That metadata will pay off for many years in ways not anticipated, and because not all those involved will change their numbers it effectively ensures penetration of all communications for many years. It only takes one hole to pop a balloon.

    The beauty of metadata is even if you don’t get actionable conversations, you have insight into who goes where and can compare that to determine their interactions.

    COMSEC tip:
    If you would not say it to Abel Reyna as a deposition under oath while giving him a rimjob, don’t say it on a phone. ANY phone.

  26. popeye Says:

    Ive been reading about this clusterfuck for over a year now and getting angrier over time. Today while reading this I couldnt help but smile. Waco and its inbred justice system have a shit storm coming and I cant wait to watch renya and swanton take a big bite of the shit sandwich they ordered up. Good work Rebel

  27. Gandalf Says:

    @ Meh I’m thinking the “Mass Arrest” was to get the Phones. Maybe for the Vid or Pics, Maybe for the Contacts or texts, and maybe because Operation Texas Rocker didn’t come up with shit and was running out of time. Bottom Line is LE encouraged the Cossacks to be there. They wanted them there. They set cams to watch. LE knew exactly what they were doing. They also kept the Cossacks off the official gang list and the Media played the Cossack victim BS from day 1. These things don’t happen by accident. Remember the “unknown Cossack Pres” saying “first diesel, then bear….” Total BS from a guy who mysteriously got away by leaving His brothers bleed in the parking lot? Total BS. Only LE can vouch for a guy CNN wants to interview. How do you think CNN found this guy? LE sent Him to them. This thing was well thought out. Shit like that don’t just happen.

  28. Fr. Abraham Says:

    @Reply, I can’t help but wonder about the cops in Waco…especially the candidate you’ve quoted up there.

    “I’m talking about the police directing traffic and making stops and checking folks’ ID and seeing if they got weapons, whatever, because we got the probable cause that something is going to happen.”

    A basic Street Law course taken my sophomore year of high school taught me the difference between “Reasonable Suspicion” and “Probable Cause”…but it appears to be something cops in Texas (not just in Waco, sadly, but all over) can’t seem to figure out. It’s really kinda strange, considering most of them have college degrees in Criminal Justice and have graduated from a police academy.

    Even if there was specific information that the Bandits and the Copsacks were planning an S.E.Hinton-worthy “rumble” at the Twin Peaks, the cops STILL wouldn’t have a legal authority to stop every person on a motorcycle to check ID and see if they were armed. At best, they had the authority to line the parking lot with cop cars and keep the fuck out of the way of a legitimate and publicized 1st-amendment-protected political meeting.

  29. Lollipop Says:

    I think it is pretty well established that many if not most there were not “bikers” in the context most here understand it. Were the IO in Denver bikers? Or something else?

  30. Meh Says:

    Tompkins gets what LE are supposed to do FROM A CITIZEN POV but if they did that beforehand there would have been howling about how the bikers civil rights were violated and they were being harassed by bacon.

    Bikers should not NEED pork to make them behave like rational adults. Pork love that argument because it justifies their empire. I reject that nonsense. If consenting adults want to have wars, fine with me but do it in private and don’t clip bystanders. It’s not worth destroying my and everyone else’s civil liberties to (fail to) stop.

    No love for bacon on my part but keeping it real, bikers should be expected NOT to murder each other in public and the final blame for any trigger pulling is on those who pulled the triggers. Every time some bikers act like chimps it’s a gift to the police state.

    Not responding to incitement from anyone is part of survival. If bacon can trick bikers into committing public murder what does that say about biker critical thinking?

    The pigs fucked up at minimum, and if they broke the law by ACTIVE INCITEMENT then major shit should come of that.

    The main issue IMO is all the illegal vindictive punitive bullshit Waco authorities did to a captive population of innocent people they mass-arrested. No matter what active protagonists do, that treatment of spectators was a serious threat to American civil liberties.

    Food for thought: If Waco had handled the aftermath properly there would be little or no blowback. Shooting active shooters is a clean kill in any book. Wacobacon got a massive case of hubris now biting them in the ass. Thanks to Rebel for exposing them!

  31. Reply Says:

    “responded to a confrontation of their own creation and what they now claim was a known risk of violence.”

    Read it again.

    MSM certainly covered Swanton’s statements about Twin Peaks owners and management last year…24/7.

    Where is the MSM coverage now?

  32. T Hell Says:

    @Gandalf
    Because of Reyna’s involvement in creatively conjuring the blanket arrest warrants motions have been filed that state basically “due to his participation prior to the actual events he was in fact operating as a de facto agent of the police and should be barred from acting as prosecution.” It is now time for the rubber to meet the proverbial road. hopefully that road will run right through the front lawns of Reyna, Stroman, and Swanson.

    Respects…..

  33. Gandalf Says:

    Your a BIG part of that Rebel… You showed those lawyers where to look and you were right. Except for a minor mis-fact here and there you were spot on. I’m thinking these Lawyers let Renya and Co hang themselves some by waiting… I never knew that they let 60 go at the Convention Center then stopped and arrested everyone else after Renya showed up. Jezzz That guy is screwed.

  34. Reply Says:

    “responded to a confrontation of their own creation and what they now claim was a known risk of violence.”

    At least one McLennan County lawman gets it –

    Fighting crime often means preventing it: Q&A with sheriff candidate Willie Tompkins

    http://www.wacotrib.com/opinion/interviews/fighting-crime-often-means-preventing-it-q-a-with-sheriff/article_c59443fa-821d-5060-8e6d-b3709e27be79.html

    “And you talk about Twin Peaks? It never should have happened. I mean, this is very basic. In training, you are taught to defuse a situation. So when you say, “I knew they were coming. We knew they were coming,” the question suddenly becomes: What did you do to defuse the situation? I mean, that’s the common-sense factor. If you go to a family disturbance situation and it’s between the husband and wife, you separate them. Same thing on the broader stage (with something like Twin Peaks).

    Q Waco Police Chief Brent Stroman is on record as saying that all the bikers that day should have easily been able to see the Waco police presence in the parking lot.

    A It’s one thing to see them, but to see them in force is the question. The police should have been seen in force. I’m not just talking about a whole bunch of people showing up, I’m talking about the police directing traffic and making stops and checking folks’ ID and seeing if they got weapons, whatever, because we got the probable cause that something is going to happen. And so why sit there and watch it come? That’s not good police training at all. I think any police officer worth his badge will tell you that this never should have happened. It should have been defused, it should have been stopped. I can’t say it wouldn’t have happened somewhere else, but that day at Twin Peaks nine folks should have never died. And 17 others or more were injured and 177 people went to jail. It never should have happened. And another thing — with collective law enforcement, there ought to be more cooperation. And so the sheriff being top cop, he should have been able to talk to the chief. He should have said, “Chief, this ain’t going to look good for us. We need to do something about this.””

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