On The Texas Gang Threat Assessment

September 1, 2015

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On The Texas Gang Threat Assessment

There are six fusion centers in Texas including the Dallas Fusion Center, the North Central Texas Fusion Center in McKinney, the El Paso Intelligence Center and the Southwest Texas Fusion Center in San Antonio. Those are in addition to the Border Security Operations Center in Austin and six Joint Operations and Intelligence Centers in the southern part of the Lone Star State.

The tangled web of federal, state and local law enforcement operations in Texas isn’t really that simple. For example, the El Paso Intelligence Center has stored information collected from automated license plate readers in all the states since 2009. That information is available to every police department in the nation. Sometime last year, or the year before – our government considers domestic spying to be none of the people’s business – that amounted to 343 million license plate location records. And actually, the El Paso Intelligence Center doesn’t mean what it would seem to mean. Those license plate location records aren’t physically stored in El Paso but in Merrifield, Virginia which is 14.9 miles from the White House and 20 miles from ATF headquarters in Northeast Washington, DC. Fusion Centers are the most obvious manifestation of the criminalization of almost everything and the federalization of all American policing since September 11, 2001. From time to time, fusion centers propagandize.

There are two fusion centers in Austin, Texas. From the outside they look like the same black box but they have two names. One of them, the “Recognized Fusion Center” is called the Austin Regional Intelligence Center. The other one, the “Primary Fusion Center” is called the Texas Joint Crime Information Center. Yesterday the Primary Fusion Center issued a 58 page report called Texas Gang Threat Assessment: A State Intelligence Estimate. The subtitle, the part about it being a “State Intelligence Estimate” is solely propaganda. Some people who do not work in television news might consider the whole thing to be propaganda.

No one will admit it, or report it, or talk about it but all of these sorts of reports are at least quasi-authored by and based on “intelligence” collected by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, the Drug Enforcement Administration and the Department of Homeland Security. And none of their observations are exactly immaculate.

So What

Yesterday’s very thin but already widely-quoted report credits every one horse sheriff’s department in Texas but hardly mentions the alphabet agencies. “Some information within this assessment was produced based on information of a sensitive nature, and is not referenced specifically,” the report explains about the omissions. But reading the report is not much different than listening to Jay Dobyns or Julian Sher on television. And, when taken together with a monograph issued last May by the Center for American Progress, yesterday’s report, with all its glaring omissions and unsubstantiated accusations, might begin to illuminate how attendees at a Texas Coalition of Clubs and Independents meeting in Waco, Texas last May came to be greeted by an unknown number of Waco Police, a Texas Rangers Swat Team, additional Texas Department of Public Safety gunmen, a Bearcat, an unknown number of ATF agents and an unknown number of police union lawyers. Waco police public information sergeant  W. Patrick Swanton chalked all that preparedness up to extensive “intelligence.” The Gang Threat Assessment doesn’t share much of that intelligence with the public.

The report identifies the Bandidos Motorcycle Club as a “Tier Two Gang” “responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime across urban, suburban, and rural areas of Texas.” It offers no empirical proof for this, just the naked accusation. It reiterates last year’s description of the big club in Texas almost word for word. “Formed in the 1960s, the Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang (OMG) tends to conduct its illegal activities as covertly as possible and has historically avoided high-profile activities, such as drive-by shootings, that many street gangs tend to commit. However, members are not covert about making their presence known, frequently wearing their gang colors, insignia, and riding in large groups. They have sought to turn public sentiment in their favor by organizing frequent charity runs. Bandidos are likely to focus on recruiting new members with no criminal history.”

Gang Gang Gang

The report mentions the Cossacks Motorcycle Club in a brief section titled “Ongoing Conflict Involving Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang in Texas.”

“On May 17, 2015,” the report says very carefully, “a violent confrontation involving the Bandidos outlaw motorcycle gang and members of other motorcycle clubs at a restaurant in Waco, Texas, resulted in the death of nine people and injuries to at least 20. Details of the incident remain under investigation, though the violent conflict occurred in the context of increasing tension between Bandidos and several other groups, most notably the Cossacks MC.

“The conflict between the Bandidos and the Cossacks appears to have originated from territorial disputes. Cossacks members have recently started wearing the Texas patch on the bottom of their vests without the approval of the Bandidos. Traditionally, the Bandidos have been the dominant motorcycle club in Texas, and thus no other club is allowed to wear the Texas patch without their consent. The incident in Waco was preceded by a series of violent incidents reportedly associated with the Bandidos. The majority of these incidents occurred in the northern half of the state.

“This conflict and the violent incident in Waco highlight the public safety threat posed by gangs and gang rivalries. Law enforcement continues to monitor the conflict involving these groups due to the potential for additional violence or further escalations.”

Not that most news outlets will catch it, but the report is at least as informative in what it doesn’t say as in what it does. Like, it doesn’t mention the 177 arrests or the million dollar bails. It also describes the Bandidos as a “gang” but not the Cossacks.

Gang is the magic word that can literally make lawful activities – like having a gun in your car, or wearing “gang colors,” or “riding in large groups” or eating brunch – illegal.

Anti-Gang Infrastructure

There has been a Texas Anti-Gang Center (or TAG Center) in Houston since 2012 and in February of this year a second TAG Center was founded in the mean streets of North Richland Hills, a Fort Worth suburb that Money Magazine once described as one of the “Top 100 Best Places to live in America.” Although the report issued yesterday is written coyly, Texas is not generally shy about acknowledging its partners in its war on “gangs.”

Public relations prose written on behalf of the Houston TAG Center calls the center “An essential tool in disrupting gang activity in Texas” and brags, “The establishment of the Houston TAG has achieved positive results, including multiple joint investigations and arrests. It comprises various law enforcement agencies, including the Texas Department of Public Safety, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, FBI, DEA, ATF, Houston Police Department, Harris County Sheriff’s Office, other county sheriffs and constable offices throughout the region, and the Harris County District Attorney’s Office, among others. The center serves as the unified headquarters for the region’s most knowledgeable and experienced federal, state, and local gang investigators, analysts, and prosecutors, with several noteworthy cases in 2014.”

These sorts of “partnerships” have become one of the ATF’s chief reasons for existing. The Bureau has long taken the lead in motorcycle club infiltrations, investigations and prosecutions. It has actively promoted and enriched various employees and former employees like William Queen, Jay Dobyns, “Charles Falco” and George Rowe. The ATF’s interjection of itself into what seem to normal people to be routine criminal matters provides a way for police to charge minor criminals with racketeering – to call molehills mountains.

Frontline Business Model

The ATF calls this it’s “Frontline Business Model.”

“Frontline is ATF’s collaborative and intelligence-driven approach to accomplishing its law enforcement and regulatory mission” the Bureau has explained many times. “Importantly, Frontline relies on ATF’s highly valued partnerships with state and local law enforcement agencies to be effective in fighting violent crime. Under this collaborative approach, ATF’s Frontline business model ensures ATF’s limited resources are focused on the most violent offenders in a community, where the strong penalties associated with federal violations represent the most appropriate sanctions. To ensure ATF’s resources are aligned to produce maximum impact, Frontline requires ATF field divisions to conduct annual domain assessments to identify the law enforcement and regulatory priorities specific to their respective areas of responsibility.”

“You know why we go after motorcycle clubs,” a very experienced ATF agent once asked rhetorically. And he did say “clubs. Because we can get into motorcycle clubs. We can’t get into MS13.” And in the current ATF, field divisions are required “to conduct annual domain assessments to identify the law enforcement and regulatory priorities specific to their respective areas of responsibility.” Or to put it more plainly, all modern cops have numbers to get and as a result of various circumstances the ATF has more trouble with its numbers than other federal police forces.

On May 19, two days after the Twin Peaks Massacre in Waco, a liberal think tank called the Center for American Progress released the results of a two-years-long investigation of the ATF’s “circumstances.” The Center’s report found the ATF to be fatally flawed from birth because the Bureau was “originally not designed to be a police agency and often lacks the internal management and oversight structure required for consistently effective federal law enforcement operations.”

In attempting to glamorize itself and justify its existence the Center found the ATF “has often channeled scarce resources away from the regulatory side of the house and has marginalized the regulatory personnel within the agency…. This lack of a clear focus on either enforcement or regulation has prevented ATF from fulfilling any part of its mission quite well enough.”

Most of the reporting on the Texas Gang Threat Assessment will ignore the circumstances that created it or what the document is intended to accomplish. You can download or read the complete report here.

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43 Responses to “On The Texas Gang Threat Assessment”

  1. Danielle Luther Says:

    Out of all the folks that have been supportive and caring we thank you. That kind of careing and concern that is positive ENTIRELY weights out anything that can be said negative. Brace yourself there will be more haters and people who are going to comment in a non productive way. The great issue is…WE ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT IT!

  2. Fuckwaco Says:

    I bet all the bikers involved are scared to death. I don’t blame Richard for trying to get the word out about the lawless law enforcement, the original press release was obviously scripted and didn’t do the clubs any favors. Most of these guys don’t have criminal records and have never been in jail before much less for a felony of this magnitude. As far as him not getting it right about Chain, It appears to me that that was his account from where he was, and that’s the way it looked to him. I wouldn’t be hard on these guys who are fighting for their freedom.

    This is a great article… Ageing Rebel… good job

  3. Jim666 Says:

    Centurion Says:
    September 2, 2015 at 10:33 am
    they don’t go after MS13, Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, BGDN, Vice Lords, because they are AFRAID.

    No Centurion they don’t go after them because they are real “Gangs”
    Motorcycle clubs are not “Gangs” so it makes their jobs easier and they make more tax dollars by lying to the public and calling M/C`s “gangs”

    F.T.F. A.C.A.B.

  4. fuckjeffgoldblum Says:

    They can’t infiltrate gangs like ms-13,surenos,Nortenos,crips ,bloods as easily if at all.
    Their “prospecting” includes murders of innocents and rivals.
    And how many cops or informants are up for that “beat in”?

  5. Tommy Says:

    Maybe we should get together and write a 58 page report on how corrupt all the ABC agencies are and release that to the general public….

  6. cookie Says:

    @ Old & Stoned

    ps. tried reading the latest drivel blog of whatshername,, gave me a headache. like reading a meth-head’s detox journal. ouch.

    I’d have to agree.

  7. piss boy Says:

    Has a motorcycle club ever attempted to sue the police or a newspaper for defamation of character?

  8. david Says:

    The words, ATF Frontline “business” model identifies the truth of ALL federal agent crimes. The for-profit business revenue from:

    1) The sale of all types of confiscated property.
    2) Monetary fines and penalties.
    3) The equipment suppliers who kick-back money for ATF purchases made.
    4) The for-profit attorneys who kick-back funds to the ATF for increased numbers of defense clients.

    BATF is “on a mission” alright, money-seeking as a religious operation.

    Great article.

  9. Simple Man Says:

    This article belongs in the DC Post, and every other national publication in our Country. It confirms what many have been thinking all along, this was not a top tier operation. This was a mid- level experiment to impress top tier, that went horribly wrong. The Big Chief has been briefed, by the whiners who know somewhere down the road their asses are probably going to be in front of a Senate Hearing Committee for violating The Constitution of the United States, and the Civil Liberties of innocent Americans. And, the taking of some of the lives of those innocent Americans. Doing a post-massacre assessment and target evaluation, we know Jesus Delgado Rodriguez posed no threat to the United States. Why was he killed? He was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, going out for lunch with friends. But him being a Vietnam Veteran, he would probably be one of the first to tell you, this is SOP for an ambush. He Was In The Back Of The Pack! “Cut’em off up front, take out the first two or three, take out one or two at the rear to avoid retreat, have shooter’s on both sides of the trail, and waist everybody scrambling around in the middle”. This was an absolute mid-level intelegence fuckup. Just my simple opinion, but I would expect a huge class action lawsuit coming for those agencies involved in this murder-massacre orchestrated by law enforcement. I wonder how many long haired hippy freaks are buried in and around Waco from back in the sixties by some redneck sheriff who didn’t like his kind in his town? TARFU in Texas! If you don’t fight this and take it to The Supreme Court of the United States, we’ll all be in a police state world of shit.

  10. stracc Says:

    @ Paladin: If you’re not facing charges and have the uncontrollable need to run your mouth, fine. However, because Richard Luther is one of the accused, he should not be giving interviews. Never mind discussing what a Prospect may or may not have said. Anything Luther says that the prosecution finds useful, will be used against him and possibly others. I have never understood why people lack the ability to control themselves and STFU!

    GOOD LEGAL ADVICE!!!

  11. Wolfenlover Says:

    Just a thought, Ode to Amy might also be called Odor Of Amy?
    Damn good piece either way.

    RESPECTS Rebel & to the real regulars

  12. Wolfenlover Says:

    Centurion, EXACTLY!

  13. Wingman Says:

    The link at the end of this post, goes a report dated April, 2014 and the news release is dated April 17th, 2014. Was the wrong report accidentally linked? Or did the ATF rearrange their webpages?

  14. Centurion Says:

    they don’t go after MS13, Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, BGDN, Vice Lords, because they are AFRAID.

  15. Peachy Says:

    When I heard the interview my first thought was, Why? Also have you noticed the only interviews of what happened, have been given by Cossacks. The first one said something like “Chain went down than Diesel than Dog.” Quotes were from one shot but not arrested. That was the week the event happened. There was an interview with Ledbetter. And now this. The stories all have the same pattern. The most recent says “Chain” was shot first in the chest but autopsy shows he was shot once in the back of the head. I am wondering if these “interviews” are part of their agreement with LE for lower bonds, removal of ankle monitors ect. It has been confirmed that while in jail. They were talking amongst themselves of what story to tell when they were released.

  16. old & stoned Says:

    it STILL just amazes me how, with all their gadgets, intel, manpower, federal funding,,, the best they can seem to do is “convict by insinuation”. ‘IF’ the 1% ‘gangs’ they write about were committing the volume and types of crimes alleged, and the best our world-class hi-tech leo’s can do is FABRICATE and entrap / entice,, says VOLUMES about the skill levels on both sides of the coin.

    Spectator – i’ve thrown that one out in conversations with civies.

    “Did you know,, you’re at least 10 times more likely to be harrassed, physically brutalized, or shot dead for no reason by those guys with badges, than you are by someone like me,,,?” the looks on the faces are priceless.

    ps. tried reading the latest drivel blog of whatshername,, gave me a headache. like reading a meth-head’s detox journal. ouch.

  17. BMW Says:

    Just more lies from professional liars. The most dangerous gang the American people will likely meet wears patches that read “police”!!
    JUSTICE FOR ZACH TIPTON AND TONYA FOCHT IN 2015!!!
    BMW

  18. TXBiker Says:

    @Spectator Exactly….That is how it’s done.

  19. Spectator Says:

    Interesting video @noneya. It’s funny how his “brother” planted brass knuckles on him. Prime example of shitty prospecting and exactly what happens when any douchebag can sew on a patch. I’m sure these types are cooperating like a motherfucker and probably being groomed to be the next great group of informants.
    Years ago my car was pilfered by the police after an incident and a similar weapon was found. Two other brothers were with me but they were in the back of other police cars. When asked, I naturally claimed the weapon, as it WAS mine. The cop later came back to the car chuckling and told me that the other two also claimed ownership of the weapon. Long story short, the cop stole the weapon and it was never mentioned again. He went home with a new toy and we all kept our pride. Some people have brothers who, without asking, would rather catch a case than have you go through it. Then there are some who have brothers who plant brass knuckles on you.

  20. Spectator Says:

    They CAN infiltrate MS-13 but for some reason they don’t have a hard on for them. Occasionally a Patch Holder commits a crime, more often than this a cop commits a crime, even more often than then these a christian commits a crime. We live in a world of pussies who swallow whatever proverbial dick is rammed in their mouth and selectively judge ALL for the actions of few, but only pass this blanket judgement on who they’re instructed to.

  21. TXBiker Says:

    “The conflict between the Bandidos and the Cossacks appears to have originated from territorial disputes. Cossacks members have recently started wearing the Texas patch on the bottom of their vests without the approval of the Bandidos.” This is simply not true. They were at first authorized. It was not until law enforcement infiltrated them and started causing trouble that any problems started….

  22. Asskiller Says:

    @Rebel – this was one of the best articles in a while. Superb reporting. One of the things I value is your skill in the translation of industrial jargon into plain language. You are correct in explaining that “all cops have numbers to get”.

    “Justify your budget and manpower” is really about as basic as it gets in any bureaucracy. The most mundane needs drive the biggest array of activities. Here in Colorado, for example, it’s been in the news recently that several towns derive an extreme amount of their operating revenue (~30-40%) from traffic tickets, v. the typical 3-4% of most. One town in fact – with a single police officer – derives over 90% of its operating revenue from one guy, writing tickets, presumably as fast as he can.

    Think about that as a governance model. That guy’s gotta be in a one-legged ass-kicking contest from dawn to dusk. And he says he issues tickets based on safety considerations and rule of law.

    It’s amazing how such bullshit can be spouted. Not one person is going to take that declaration seriously. If he enforces the law without respect to revenue goals, he not only has no job – the town itself disappears.

    That sounds like the greatest place in the world for the Rebel Run. I can picture it now… a giant bearded Phuquehead roaring from the bar, “THERE’S ONLY ONE OF YOU?”

    But more seriously – good journalism. I am seeing your work cited in more “mainstream” outlets. That is a very good thing.

    Respects…

    – Asskiller

  23. Asskiller Says:

    @Paladin – “If you’re not facing charges and have the uncontrollable need to run your mouth, fine. However, because Richard Luther is one of the accused, he should not be giving interviews. Never mind discussing what a Prospect may or may not have said. Anything Luther says that the prosecution finds useful, will be used against him and possibly others. I have never understood why people lack the ability to control themselves and STFU!”

    Ego.

    Even fear is about ego.

    Respectfully,

    – Asskiller

  24. NOS4A2 Says:

    In some ways you got to welcome the incompetence and downright dumbfuckedness of these people. I can’t remember ever being stopped by a cop who knew what the fuck he was doing but reading a script that was written by these incompetent and downright dumbfuck people.

  25. Brad Milch Says:

    The Texas gang assessment studies & reports remind me of J. Edgar Hoover’s infamous FBI files he kept & maintained on celebrities & politicians. Getting on Hoover’s shit list wasn’t good. Being on these modern day shit lists isn’t good either. Someone in the judicial systems gets a hard-on & has a purpose in life to fuck up somebody’s name on the list.

    It’s just a matter of time until the rules of engagement change to include drone strikes against riders traveling to & from the local convenience store to buy a soft drink.

    I’m curious about the pole cameras. Who’s in charge of constructing, monitoring & disseminating the video they capture? How much of what goes into threat assessment reports is based on surveillance video? Where is the Twin Peaks biker massacre video?

    To get off the shit lists just may require parking the bikes & going with those cute little pieces of shit cars from India. They kinda resemble a bike with a wrap around. Mass meetings in public places? Send postcards. It’s safer.

  26. Paladin Says:

    Ode to Amy Said:
    September 1, 2015 at 6:41 pm
    It was a rainy Sunday in the small town of Waco…

    Thank you Rebel. And as always, long may you ride.

    Paladin

  27. ak rack Says:

    “On May 17, 2015 . . . a violent confrontation involving the Bandidos outlaw motorcycle gang and members of other motorcycle clubs at a restaurant in Waco, Texas, resulted in the death of nine people and injuries to at least 20. . . This conflict and the violent incident in Waco highlight the public safety threat posed by gangs and gang rivalries.”

    Bullshit. This conflict highlights the threat to public safety by unscrupulous law enforcement. Although I’m beginning to think that scrupulous law enforcement might be an oxymoron.

  28. TML Says:

    Hard-hitting article.

  29. xplor Says:

     Strange the ATF’s limited resources  mention  automated license plate readers that don’t work very well on motorcycles but forget to mention stingrays that intercept cellphones or xkeyscore that records your internet usage for years.

  30. old & stoned Says:

    the only worth-while trip to texas would be to nuke it. or peel swanton’s facial skin off very slowly.

  31. Professor Says:

    Who wrote this piece? Very thorough and professional. I perceive meaningful collaboration.

  32. Phuquehed Says:

    It fucking amazes me the stupidity of the pigs and fedtards and all the damned air-wasting sheeple that believe the drivel that comes from them, about how all these MC ‘gangs’ with all the numbers in each, all the people in them considered ‘gang members’ (whether they’ve actually ever commited a crime or not), and all the crimes *all* these members are *SUPPOSEDLY* *DOING* (not have done, but are doing or are going to do according to the fucktarded pigs and fedtards), yet the busts of such tiny numbers/percentages of anyone in all those ‘gangs’ combined that have been busted doing anything remotely as bad as the pigs and fedtards keep telling the sheeple they are supposedly doing on a constant fucking basis, is so small and so petty – why do not more people see the fucking lie(s) the pigs and fedtards are feeding them?

    That pitiful and lame-assed excuse the pigs and fedtards use about ‘we can infiltrate the MC’s but can’t infiltrate MS13’ is the same bullshit, dumbass logic as when they say to someone they want info from ‘if you’ve done nothing srong what’s wrong with telling me what I want to know?’.

    FTP, FTG…all liars and as corrupt and cowardly as the pig/fedtard protected ‘non-gang’ Urine Odor faggots.

  33. Ode to Amy Says:

    It was a rainy Sunday in the small town of Waco when a violent tornado erupted. There was no warning of this tornado. It left behind death, confusion and mass damage to many. Meanwhile in Arkansas, a lady stepped out of her home and stumbled upon a pair of red and gold slippers. They sparkled in the sunlight and looked so inviting. As see reached for them, a noble warrior appeared. He said “A great tragedy has cause damage to my people, those slippers symbolize the search for truth. Should you choose to wear those slippers, there are stipulations you must agree to uphold. My people live a life based on respect, loyalty and trust. We keep to ourselves, do not like our business being out in the public, and we just want to be left alone. There is another group that was damaged by this tornado, they wear the black and gold. We feel they are just as confused. The truth of this tragedy must be found. The person who wears the red and gold slippers must be loyal to us. These shoes contain power and we must be able to trust you for the power to be enabled.” She communicated that she understood as her eyes sparkled, the word of power excited her to no end. Her whole life centers on trying to have power and being in the spotlight, heck yeah she was on board. The warrior designated her as the Witch of Truth and cleared a path so she could start her journey.

    The road ahead had many twist and turns, hills and valleys. Along the way, the witch attracted many pets that followed behind her. She ruled them with an iron fist. They were to be her minions. She would send them off one by one on missions to recover information or cause destruction so no one would know that it was actually her. To the great warrior it appeared she was abiding by the law of loyalty and respect. One by one the pets discovered her evil nature and crept away into the night while she was sleeping. Only to end up being banished from the kingdom by her as she spread false information of their loyalty to the great warrior.

    One day the witch of the truth stumbled upon a wounded scarecrow wearing black and gold. This man told her that he could give her the truth. Secretly they became friends, no one knew but the two of them, as they say three cannot keep a secret. Quietly they spoke and plotted on what the truth should look like.

    Citizens of the red and gold nation welcomed the Witch of Truth into their world with open arms. Shared their secrets and were happy to have someone to tell their stories about that day. At the same time, she was sending her minions out one at a time to throw off the search for the truth, or to have them dig up information she could use against someone. For you see, the witch did not want the truth to be found. Once her mission was accomplished she would lose the power of the red and gold slippers. No more attention, no more spot light.

    Then came the day that the witch happened upon the tin man. Wrongly accused and sitting in the corner alone. The witch showed him her red and gold slippers, telling him that she would make it all better. All the while she was circulating that he in fact had committed a crime. When word got back to the great warrior that this had happened, he summoned for the Witch of Truth. He told her that he would not tolerate these lies and to correct the situation. She headed out on the path again but only half fixing the lie. For this she lost one of her red and gold slippers.

    As time went on more stories surfaced of the witch betraying the law of loyalty and respect. She began telling the tribe’s stories in public, even though they said they wanted to be left alone. The last red and gold slipper was taken.

    Now with no power, clawing her way for attention, more and more lies are spun. The lies will pertain to whomever crosses her path regardless of tribe. For this person is not capable of being a good witch, only a wicked witch. Beware of the wicked witch, she does not obey the law of loyalty and respect. You do not want to be her next victim. Does anyone have a pail of water?

  34. MN LONER Says:

    Always,wanted to go see the state of tx,but I am going to steer clear . especially after seeing that link, old&stoned posted.Thats some fucked up shit there boy.Thanks rebel

  35. Whitepride Says:

    old & stoned, I just watched the video. Not only did those cocksuckers shoot him down in cold blood they didn’t even make an effort to administer first aid. The guy appeared to be White so I’m sure nobody will see it on national news

  36. old & stoned Says:

    again, note all descriptions of the ‘outbreak of violence’ other than swanton’s are ALL cossacks, or ‘costumes’. Too obvious NOT to be curious, unless most of th B&G have been promised a ‘pass’

  37. Paladin Says:

    If the linked KXAN news report is credible, the statement that Jimmy Graves is an officer in a designated criminal street gang and the Pres. of the TCOCI, will be used by the prosecution to link the TCOCI to the alleged criminal activity of the designated street gang, thus making the TCOCI an extension of the designated street gang’s criminal enterprise.

    If you’re not facing charges and have the uncontrollable need to run your mouth, fine. However, because Richard Luther is one of the accused, he should not be giving interviews. Never mind discussing what a Prospect may or may not have said. Anything Luther says that the prosecution finds useful, will be used against him and possibly others. I have never understood why people lack the ability to control themselves and STFU!

    Long May You Ride (to those that deserve to),

    Paladin

  38. Dieter Neumann Says:

    Sounds like those “liberals” are spearheading the resistance!

    -the pot-addled hillbilly

  39. Wolfenlover Says:

    Wonder if they’ve spotted the”most feared in the land” guys yet, the Black
    Widows MC?

  40. old & stoned Says:

    Rebel, great research

    funny they didn’t mention the gang is San Antone shooting ya cuz your hands are UP.
    http://www.ksat.com/news/ksatcom-exclusive-unedited-video-of-fatal-deputy-involved-shooting

  41. Bone Head Says:

    The Center’s report found the ATF to be fatally flawed from birth because the Bureau was “originally not designed to be a police agency and often lacks the internal management and oversight structure required for consistently effective federal law enforcement operations.”

    Then I’m correct in believing the atf are a bunch of idiots.

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