Oops Did Kurt Do It Again

August 27, 2015

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Oops Did Kurt Do It Again

Kurt Sutter announced he is developing a television show about the fictional Mayans Motorcycle Club yesterday in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter. Sutter said the show is “still early in the development process.”

In Sons of Anarchy, the Mayans were understood to be analogues for the Mongols Motorcycle Club. The Mayans were largely Xicano and were frequently at odds with the Sons who were understood by viewers to be analogues for the Hells Angels.

The show business newspaper reported that Sutter “is keeping mum on details, so questions remain about the time period and the potential for Sons’ stars to return.” In the past Sutter has expressed interest in producing a Sons of Anarchy prequel set during the late Vietnam War.

Given Sutter’s talents and personal history, the back story on the new show may turn out to be more interesting than the series will be.


Sutter became a household name after he became the “showrunner,” or most hands-on executive producer, of Sons of Anarchy. The gangster melodrama relentlessly compared itself to Hamlet and bragged about its “authenticity.” It offered virtually no insight into the motorcycle club world but it did teach a legion of “aspirational outlaws” how to strut, pose and troll. The general public loved the show.

But, there was always some question about how Sons of Anarchy came to be.

One version says the show was inspired by the experiences of a John Linson. Linson is the son of the very important producer Art Linson and he encouraged the idea that he was rougher than most sons of Hollywood. The series, viewers were encouraged to believe, was inspired by his experiences with the Oakland charter of the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club. As the show was about to debut in 2008, the San Francisco Chronicle wrote, “With John Linson’s love of motorcycle culture and his access to an Oakland outlaw club (which he doesn’t name), Sutter was able to immerse himself in the workings of the organization and come out with something authentic.”

During the pre-debut media blitz, Sutter told a Television Critics Association audience, “I had lunch with John Linson and Art Linson two years ago and John had this notion about doing a family drama set in the world of outlaw motorcycle clubs. John was completely immersed in the culture, well-versed in the area,” Sutter explained. “He had friends and associates who were living the life, and what he offered me was a front-row seat. I didn’t want to get involved with anything that I felt I could not do authentically and, you know, I can’t mention any organizations, but one of these organizations sort of opened their doors to me, and I got to see it firsthand.”

Chuck Zito

An alternate version of the show’s origin is that it was Chuck Zito’s idea for a show and Sutter stole it. Zito is an actor and author who may still be best known as a former president of the Angels New York City charter and as a tough guy bodyguard. In a 2011 lawsuit against FX Networks LLC Zito claimed he “conceived, developed and wrote a treatment containing his creative ideas for a television series entitled Nomads which was later tweaked and renamed The Wild Angels…about an outlaw motorcycle club. The protagonists were the leader of the club, his family members, rivals and associates within the club who support or undermine the club, law enforcement and government officials and rival gangs.”

Zito recalls that he had meetings in 2003 and 2004 with FX executives and that all the parties shook hands on a deal to produce Zito’s biker show for the cable network.  Later in 2004, according to Zito, network president John Landgraf decided to pass on Zito’s series because FX was “not interested in a biker show.” Two years after that, Zito learned that his former agent, a man named Ted Chervin, had just packaged and sold a biker series named Sons of Anarchy to Landgraf and FX. Landgraf and Sutter had been business associates for years and it was to be Sutter’s show.

Zito lost his lawsuit when a judge named Steven J. Kleifield granted a summary judgment against him on December 15, 2011. The judge based his decision, in part, on a sealed declaration by Sutter that “illustrated his development process.” Sutter claimed to have offered Sons of Anarchy to HBO and AMC before FX won the rights in a “bidding war.”

Sutter The Troll

Sutter subsequently belittled Zito on social media. He called Zito a “half-talent” and called the lawsuit “bogus.”

“Here’s the problem with his (Zito’s) plan,” Sutter wrote. “When it comes to parting with cash, there’s one badass outlaw that makes Zito look like a pussy – his name is Rupert, and Rupe don’t sway. Trust me, Chucky could firebomb our lot and Fox wouldn’t fork over a fucking dime to this guy. That’s why I love them… my parent company is as stubborn and aggressive as I am.”

“So here’s my bi-monthly reminder to every delusional bitch who thinks that they’ve come up with the idea for SOA – Having the fucking idea is not the show. There have been dozens of outlaw motorcycle TV dramas pitched in the last ten years. None of them has made it to series except SOA because they sucked. The same way there were dozens of mob family pitches before the Sopranos and crime scene pitches before CSI.”

“I guarantee you, the only similarity between Zito’s pitch and SOA is that they wear cuts, do illegal things and ride Harleys.”

Annie Psaltiras

One person who was distressed this morning to learn of Sutter’s new show in development is a Hollywood stylist and budding producer named Annie Psaltiras. Psaltiras grew up in East Los Angeles, has a fascination with and genuine insight into the early days of the Mongols and has interviewed and bought the rights to the life stories of some original Mongols. She is not affiliated with the club and has never secured the rights to use the Mongols name or logo but she has been actively trying to produce a fictionalized television series about the founders of the club for years. It is a passion project for her. She thinks she has an idea for a story that should be told.

In a show pitch that has been circulating for two years, Psaltiras describes her characters as “young, Latino-American soldiers who served in the Vietnam War. They went to Vietnam as naïve kids and returned home as broken men, without purpose. The club gave them a purpose.”

“These restless outsiders were deeply suffering from “wounds you couldn’t see.” PTSD was unheard of at the time. Betrayed and disenfranchised by the country they dutifully served, they were in desperate need of camaraderie and understanding.
Shunned by the hippy culture as ‘baby killers,’ and unable to relate to friends and family, they found order in the chaos by sticking together.”

Psaltiras has made slow progress with the project because she is, to a large extent, a Hollywood unknown. This year she attached the actress Natasha Lyonne as a producer for her proposed series. Last May, Lyonne arranged a meeting for Psaltiras with an agent at William Morris Endeavor Entertainment who liked the idea and suggested writers that might be attached to the project.

William Morris Endeavor Entertainment is probably the premier agency in Los Angeles.

Kurt Sutter, by the way, is represented by William Morris Endeavor Entertainment.

It would be reasonable to conclude that there is absolutely no connection between Sutter’s new project and Psaltiras long held dream. It is also not exactly unreasonable to imagine that there is a connection. And if there is, and Psaltiras mentions it out loud, it will be interesting to see how long it takes Sutter to climb up on his bully pulpit and call her a “delusional bitch.”

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120 Responses to “Oops Did Kurt Do It Again”

  1. Mama G Says:

    @ Jim666
    Thank goodness you clarified. I have been searching everywhere for my secret decoder ring. I tried so hard to follow along. I even checked my Pepsi to see if someone slipped me a roofie when I wasn’t looking. Lol! Like everyone has said, no worries. Now, you have a good story to tell.

    I just love the banter here. Great community, minus the douche bags of the world who feel they are equipped to match wits with the likes of ya’ll. But, then again, watching them all be put in their place over and over and over again is entertaining.

    Much Respect…..

  2. NOS4A2 Says:

    Cocksucker Kurt has a new show, The Bastard Executioner.

  3. Austin Says:

    Hey xyz – thanks for this link. Powerful stuff there.

  4. inkedupirishguy Says:

    maybe he will base the entire series on Billy Queen’s book.

  5. skinny denny Says:

    Agree with Steel 100%. Sutter is a poser. Formerly a fat guy who used a lot of coke to drop the lbs. Huge ego and ridiculous tribal ink. If he rides a scoot, it’s probably an O.C.C. pos. Sutter is as phony as old man Teutul.

  6. Wolfenlover Says:

    Bone Head, I’d bet over half of all bikers are in the same style as you! lol
    It’s only the POSEURS that go the other route, ya know.THEY are the only ones
    that can afford all the “style”. “Thousands for my scooter, but not a penny for
    CENTURION, re-read Bone Head’s post. BONEHEAD didn’t post that. Comprehension
    is such a major thing, ya know?!

    RESPECTS Rebel & to the real regulars

  7. Centurion Says:

    HEY BONEHEAD, $280 for a vest? geez, get off rodeo drive

  8. xyz Says:

    Has this been posted yet?

    Inside the Waco Twin Peaks Biker Shootout with Biker Richard Luther


  9. Steel Says:

    Sutter is the king of the wannabes if you ask me. Gets all tatted up, wears his stylish ponytail and glasses, and tries to sell the idea he knows about things he doesn’t. King Poser. All the while, seems like he screws over anyone he can to line his pockets.

    Respects to the deserving


  10. Jim666 Says:

    Bone head
    lol I own 1 Harley Davidson tee shier its about 4 yrs old and the only reason I own it is because a M8 from Oz sent it too me he actually sent me 2 but my daughter stole one……Yea I guess I waste too much money on tires brakes and oil too. too much to dress like a “Badass Biker” anyway, lol

  11. Bone Head Says:

    @ XKG…
    I apologize to all riders everywhere. I do not wear a leather vest costing $280.00. Spent that money for new tires on my bike…about every other year I waste money like that. I don’t know what kind/brand jeans I wear…all I own is 3 or 4 pairs of stained threadbare work pants. All my t-shirts are worn, sag at the neck and are greasy and oil stained from working on whatever’s broke in my garage. I wear old tan leather work/driver’s gloves to ride in…mainly a set they threw away at where I used to work.

    What a disappointment I am…Respects to my fellow riders.

  12. XKG Says:

    “How to Dress Like TV’s Baddest Bikers” a step by step guide by Charles Thorp and Men’s Journal.

    “The more they wore something the better it looked”
    Who’s cataloging today’s confiscated ‘artifacts’ for future exhibit?

    “Run over the cut and jacket with your car… you don’t see guys who really ride wearing shinny new”

    Thanks Charlie! I always wondered how to beat the sagging tee neck thing. Ginsu or a RonCo for the knife?


  13. xplor Says:

    It should be will Kurt Sutter do it again. Will all the Mayans be reduced to pochos like on the TV news today. Will Sutter write the history of the Mongols and Vagos his way ?

  14. Grimey Says:

    Well, I’m going to go out on a limb here and just tell the truth. I watched SOA. I liked parts of it, I did get kind of sucked in at times. I got really sick of seeing people wearing SOA shit everywhere, and how suddenly everyone thought they were experts on the MC life. I lost a lot of steam in the last two seasons, and by the end was just ready for the show to end. The drama was over the top, and I knew it was about as authentic as seaseme street is an authentic slice of NYC life. This new series sounds kind of like a half assed sequel, or a grab at some extra money while the topic is still hot. I’m hoping it doesn’t last long, because I really doubt it will have much substance.

  15. VikingTrotter Says:

    It was the season finale….so, it might be shown on other than On Demand.

  16. Wolfenlover Says:

    HAHAHAHA! I’ve read back through articles 3,4&5 PLUS the comments & have
    concluded. The general consensus of the biker community has NOT changed since
    2008, concerning Kunt Sutter! Sounds like a RUT to me. Course he isn’t selling
    it to us. Just the fuckin’ SHEOPLE who buy any/everything they see on TV.
    Just plain SAD what this country has become.

  17. Philo Says:

    Wonder if he’s going to write himself another prison assrape scene for what ever character he plays in this one? O_o


  18. Wolfenlover Says:

    VikingTrotter, I haven’t watched that for quite some time, but might have to
    check it out again.

  19. VikingTrotter Says:

    Watching Falling Skies…….My guilty pleasure…….and even they are getting into the Biker theme. But, in this show its the 1%r biker club that comes to the rescue and fights the aliens as noble warriors.
    I don’t think that the cops will like that.

  20. N P Says:

    @ Irish 1%: Benzene Follies.

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