Meanwhile In El Paso

June 6, 2015

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Meanwhile In El Paso

Police busted up another Confederation of Clubs meeting in El Paso on Tuesday night. A very large group of Texas state troopers and El Paso police surrounded the regular monthly meeting at a VFW Post

Police interrupted the presentation of a $4,000 check to the Alzheimer’s Association to arrest an unnamed member of the Bandidos Motorcycle Club for assault and “engaging in organized criminal activity.” The man’s bond was set at $10,000 and he bailed out Thursday.

Police in El Paso have exercised their right to remain secretive about the arrest. A local “biker authority” named Rusty Fleming, who works for the Hudspeth County Sheriff’s Office, told El Paso television station KFOX that the unnamed Bandido committed the assault against a member of another motorcycle club as part of a territorial dispute. “They’re going to proclaim that Texas is theirs and that’s their turf and then they’re going to have to do something to protect it and that means violence. Obviously after Waco you can see they’re not afraid of pulling a gun,” Fleming said.

The Aging Rebel believes the hypothesized dispute involves the Los Traviezos and the Iron Order Motor Cycles Clubs. Those two clubs have aligned and have invited confrontations with the Bandidos during the last two years. The Iron Order, which has branded itself as the “law abiding motorcycle club,” was involved in a gunfight with members of the Pistoleros and Bandidos Motorcycle Clubs in Meridian, Mississippi on February 28.

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44 Responses to “Meanwhile In El Paso”

  1. Traviezos Big Tyme Says:

    Jesse that was a cute but once again a lie. I thought you were born again. Let it out and ease your tiny little heart. I wish you would prove a lie about me.. But you cant cus you lied to have me put out. Was way ahead of ya partner. Sad thing is that you use to be a good dude. Now I have seen your sheet and you shouldn’t be on streets. And it aint even got one big thing on there I know should. You tell me how you are still on streets. You aint never proved that snitch stuff with paperwork which should have lead to you being dealt with according to protocol. Kinda weird huh, but you had already let the patch get to ya. You and everyone else has claimed this and that about me and I figured it out. I was outsider moving quick so you had to lie and bullshit to have me out thinking that would deflect off you. Sure didn’t… What part of that was a lie? So call me patch jumper because you were a fucking liar but the TRAVIEZOS MC is where I should have been whole time… True Brotherhood that your crew couldn’t and wont ever beat. EL CHUCO IS FREE AND THE GUARD HAS CHANGED

  2. Jesse Says:

    Big tyme your a joke you club jumping mail order patch wearing punk I hit no one with brass knuckles plus I was in front of my 2 kids if it’s on video then show it I sure would like to see me having my ass handed to me. Lies are all you hide behind.

  3. Traviezo Big Tyme Says:

    You tough guys have no clue. Traviezos MC are farthest thing from cops or cop callers. Lets see Gary B started shit at a bar, yall called all local support and still got asses handed to you. Not only did y’all run away but you left VP on ground by himself. Morals by us is why he was allowed to leave peacefully… No coos called. Next y’all disrespected run for brain cancer and well you were told you weren’t welcome and to leave. Hint this was all because of a man name moose who fought with two las Cruces dildos.. This will play in here in a couple lines.. Next Jesse in a 7/11 hits one of our members three times square with brass knuckles and then Jesse preceded to have his ass handed to him… Jesse goes to hospital and then later to jail. Hey idiots he did that on camera in front of witnesses. He ratted himself out and then in jail was telling people including corrections officers that we jumped him. Next your bought his way in president company chases down one of our guys and assaults him in parking lot… Favor was returned later in which compa had to pull a pistol. Once again cameras and witnesses everywhere… No cops called… Now lets clear the air. Y’all use to quite regularly hang out at a sheriffs house partying… Anytime y’all see us you grab phones and wait for help.. If we do same you claim we are calling cops.. Now why are all your tough guys quitting or being kicked out… Jesse, Thomas, johnny, Ruben, Lucio,Manny,lucky,reboot, Mexican mike and quite a few wanting out but scared of the couple pussies left… Lastly I served in combat with dudes in iron order so guess what yeah we may hang out with them occasionally. Not all bikers have to be criminals but funny how the tough guys are getting asses handed to ya. Now only if your bosses knew how many lies have been told by y’all covering all this up.. Last question why is el paso chapter traveling with security personnel.I think you dudes should have realized you were lead astray by Lucio. TFFT/42

  4. Animal Says:

    I moved back home to Ft.Worth recently only to discover that the urine odor fags are here to. To make matters worse I went to my 45 year high school reunion only to find out one of my classmates had joined these fags.REVOLUTION IS THE ONLY SOLUTION!!!!!

  5. Animal Says:

    Siege,FUCKIN A RIGHT ON.You hit it right on the head. Thanks for expressing what many of us feel. I lived in Alamogordo, NM for a few years ago and I saw these queers and the urine order right up close…meaning how they do business.

  6. Jay Says:

    Thats total bullshit ! Traviesos dont start fights with the local 1% ! They other way around ! The locals were pissed because they could not get them to patch local 1%. Can’t blame them ! I wouldn’t either !! Traviesos do good things for their community. They dont go around acting like bullies ! And they hold their own !

  7. CH Says:

    @ Wolfenlover…….

    a lot of the problem now days is something called GEN-X. The generation comprised mostly of clueless lost spoiled shites who do not know what a good old fashioned ass whipping is.
    Most of them have no ideals or understand such things as honor & truth.
    It’s all about being a selfish whining shite… mostly hot air and NO ASS!

    Like Lennon said in song—
    “You think you’re so clever & classless & free…but you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see” etc..etc………….

    But don’t get me started on that………….

    JUSTICE IN WACKO!
    FRY THE PIGS!
    FTP
    FTG
    FTW

  8. Wolfenlover Says:

    You don’t have to join Farce-Book to look at a page, just can’t comment on it
    (boo-fuckin-hoo) Go to iomc-The Real Truth 2 and if you scroll down far enough
    you’ll see a pic of these “traviesos” with the urine odor. They are known to
    talk shit on the internet but if it looks like it’s getting real, they also
    call the pigs! On the link rollinnorth posted, this “prieto” is a real shit
    talker. All kinds of claims of taking care of the El Paso R&G, just like old
    It’sodd ‘s claims about him & the 15’s out east. Purely bull-shit. I understand that”travieso or traviesa” is a term for youngin’s giving B-J’s to gain popularity! Thus “naughty boys”. These goofy fucks, taking names they don’t know the true meaning about. Just like getting a chinese character
    tattoo they claim means “love”or “peace” when it really means something like
    fuckin’ Idiot! LMAO
    Yup, fit right in with the urine odor fags, they do.
    FTUO& their newly acquired BJ boys the traviesos!

    RESPECTS Rebel & to the regulars

  9. rollinnorth Says:

    Says it all:

    “Topix › Texas › Lamar County › Paris › New breed in town.
    New breed in town.

    old school
    United States
    #1 Oct 11, 2014

    There is a new breed of bikers in the El Paso area I hear. Traviezos El Chuco is their name. I heard they left the coalition and are standing up to the prominent club in the area. Hmmmm… will def be interesting to follow.

    Leo
    United States
    #2 Oct 11, 2014

    Good group of guys.”

    http://www.topix.com/forum/city/paris-tx/T0C8STCFJQEROFTGN

    Respect, to those…

  10. FF Says:

    @wolfenlover

    You ever want to do a kriss kross, let me know.

    RESPECT

  11. Wolfenlover Says:

    @T-P (Means what the initials imply, asswipe) So you can bring cops to my house? You wouldn’t last where I live BOY.
    You evidently aren’t very bright making threats on here,but, oh wait! That’s right! YOU are a COP FRIEND & can get away with that shit.Think you can show up
    at my house without repercussions? Take your “badassery” elsewhere PUNK.

    RESPECTS Rebel & to the regulars

  12. FF Says:

    LMFAO

    I smell piss!

  13. Phuquehed Says:

    So now the ‘God’ speaker makes threats. No better hypocrisy than that of fake religious nutcases. Your ‘god’ don’t own shit, Traviezo, unless it’s the pigs destroying the lives of the clubs that ride the roads you say he owns. What a fuckin’ clown. Give it a rest.

  14. FF Says:

    WE’RE HERE, WE’RE FAP! WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE YOUR CRAP!

  15. Traviezo Prieto Says:

    @Wolfenlover We will be in touch .

  16. Traviezo Prieto Says:

    @Wolfenlover, you are a real badass you fucken internet Commando! Say it to my face punk when you see me. I had the balls to put who I am and where Im from. Now you tell me who you are poser, and Ill give you the opportunity to tell me in person, pussy!

    Traviezo Prieto

  17. FF Says:

    @puterinthebasketchief

    Great post. Respect

    @Wolfenlover

    LMAO

    “All roads belong to God! We’re here, we’re queer, we’re not gonna go away!” -tRapeEzi playdoH

  18. Wolfenlover Says:

    @ traviezo prieto, he already knows you & your poseur bunch are butt-
    buddies with urine odor bastards.READ the fuckin’ article AGAIN,
    DOUCHE-BAG! Fuck you & your pig-callin’ girlfriends!
    FTUO & all of their shit rag wearing fakes/fags associates!

    RESPECTS Rebel & to the regulars

  19. Traviezo Prieto Says:

    To the editor of Agingrebel, please feel free to contact me for an interview if you want to report the truth about Los Traviezos El Chuco. We are all free men and all roads belong to God and not to ANY club or man!!!!!

  20. Bruka Says:

    “Again, I have NEVER advocated Clubs warring amongst themselves. Never. But I can never advocate simply throwing the doors open and letting in every RUB and poser represent themselves as the equal of the Clubs that have spent decades building a name, a tradition, and a way of life.”

    Perfectly put Sieg, agree with everything you said but that paragraph resonates massively.

  21. Sieg Says:

    ABikerWithAnOpinion Says:
    June 8, 2015 at 6:48 pm

    Sieg,

    I’ve been in this life probably since you were not even a wet spot in your momma’s panties. I’ve seen tough guys come and go. And one thing I’ve learned is when you see someone playing hard on the internet and insulting people he doesn’t know from Adam’s Housecat, you can rest assured you’re seeing someone trying their best to look hard. But I’m not here to trade insults with some guy I’ve never met nor will ever meet.”

    Well, for someone not trying to sell woof-tickets, you’re doing a pretty good job.

    If you’ve “been in this life” that long, you’re pushing 80 about now. Far as the rest, tough guys? Hard? If you say so. I’ve never in my life laid claim to being a “tough guy”, there’s only two places you can meet one of those, in the joint or the graveyard, and since I’m not currently in either…

    Hard? If being hard means telling you to read what’s already been written, over and over and over, by many posters far more eloquent than I, then I guess I’ll cop to that.

    “As for your thoughts, keep on thinking this is the 70’s & 80’s when clubs can go to war over who can fly what and where or who “controls” this or that territory.”

    Funny, but I don’t recall EVER saying that any Club should “go to war” with any other Club. What I have said, consistently, over the years, is that people that want to form clubs, or clubs that want to start-up in areas already inhabited by other Clubs, is that they should follow the customs of the country and do it the right way.

    “All you’re doing is with that line of thinking is giving the feds the rope they need to hang us all.”

    All you are doing by advocating that anyone that wants to start a pop-up and slap on a bottom-rocker be accepted is parroting the urine odor mantra, “I can do whatever I want”. If you accept that, and accept that the day is here that anyone can, in fact, lay claim to being a respectable club, simply by virtue of knowing an embroiderer and having a large stack of cash, then the way of life of the Clubs is already over.

    Think about it. I hear what you are saying about heat, but if we live our lives to please the regime, then what’s the point? Better to get it over with.

    If you are as old as you seem to be claiming, you may remember a “fiction” piece in ER, way back when, whose protagonist is overjoyed at FINALLY being released from prison. He gets out, wants to go for a ride, would like to get a little buzz, but he can’t, cause he’s gonna get dropped, he puts on his jacket, it feels funny. Oh yeah, had to drop his Patch, non-association clause. And so on. He ends up, if memory serves, bitterly reflecting on his “freedom”.

    And that can be all of us.

    “Society has changed and will demand “law and order” be brought to bear to protect them form those “dangerous motorcycle gangs”. And in today’s world where “Big Brother” literally is watching, there’s not going to be anywhere any of us can hide.”

    No, there isn’t. Never has been anywhere we can hide. Don’t think anyone who has ever associated with a Patch has tried to-kinda hard with that Rag on your back. So maybe, instead of appeasing, and changing, and all that shit, it’s time to start fighting back. That old, lame, “live free or die” shit.

    “Either we wake up now and see that it’s not other MC’s that’s our enemy but instead it’s the Feds or we risk seeing our lifestyle be destroyed once and for all.”

    Absolutely. Agree 101% with that one. Thing is, the pop-ups and provocateurs like the urine odor ARE the feds, or at the very least, the tools of the feds. So if we ignore them, and accept them, then we allow the beast into the house.

    Again, I have NEVER advocated Clubs warring amongst themselves. Never. But I can never advocate simply throwing the doors open and letting in every RUB and poser represent themselves as the equal of the Clubs that have spent decades building a name, a tradition, and a way of life.

    So, if you want to twist things around so that somehow it’s absolutely necessary to sing kumbaya with the uo types, by all means, feel free. But don’t expect everyone to get on board with that.

    FTF/FTP
    TOSIAR

  22. Wookiee Says:

    @drone
    Well, your name certainly is fitting. You questioned whether members in the MC world held their leaders to the same standard as government officials and I can tell that the answer is a firm and solid no. Members of the MC community hold their leaders to a much higher standard and deal with issues that arise faster and far more efficiently than the dickheads in a Washington office. Their leaders are their Brothers, the MC world and it’s leaders are the true embodiment of the concept By the People, Of the People and For the People.

  23. ABikerWithAnOpinion Says:

    Sieg,

    I’ve been in this life probably since you were not even a wet spot in your momma’s panties. I’ve seen tough guys come and go. And one thing I’ve learned is when you see someone playing hard on the internet and insulting people he doesn’t know from Adam’s Housecat, you can rest assured you’re seeing someone trying their best to look hard. But I’m not here to trade insults with some guy I’ve never met nor will ever meet.

    As for your thoughts, keep on thinking this is the 70’s & 80’s when clubs can go to war over who can fly what and where or who “controls” this or that territory. All you’re doing is with that line of thinking is giving the feds the rope they need to hang us all. Society has changed and will demand “law and order” be brought to bear to protect them form those “dangerous motorcycle gangs”. And in today’s world where “Big Brother” literally is watching, there’s not going to be anywhere any of us can hide.

    Either we wake up now and see that it’s not other MC’s that’s our enemy but instead it’s the Feds or we risk seeing our lifestyle be destroyed once and for all.

  24. puterindabasketchief Says:

    In my opinion, the only people who advocate trashing tradition in favor of allowing anyone to start their own thing as the please, sporting any rocker they chose, are those people who don’t have what it takes to join an established, legitimate, storied club. 1% or not.

    They want it easy and on their own terms. And they want it now! I can tell you this, in my AO the biggest fucking problems in the last five years have been clueless fucktards who’ve watched too much TV, ignore protocol, throwing on patches and rockers without so much as a courtesy sit down. They start their own club-of-the-week, walking into bars trying to intimidate citizens, creating heat and havoc for those who have been admirably carrying on the life for decades.

    And who is going to educate these morons when all they do is follow the IO handbook? Call them on their bullshit, and they dial the man. But they demand acknowledgement and respect? Fuck that.

    Frankly, I wouldn’t want to belong to a CoC who completely accepts that “this is the way things are now.” It’s true times have changed and unfortunately respect (particularly of the self variety) is an endangered trait. But, my principles won’t change. And it might be difficult to hold everyone accountable in this day and age. But, you piss on what is real? You’ll get my back and a sincere “fuck you” at best.

    Don’t tell me I have to lower my standards because it benefits your program. And you’ll excuse me for getting on this soapbox, because maybe I haven’t the right. I haven’t been around the block near as long as many of the patch holders here, but I can only promise to try every day to live up to the example set by my Brothers, current but especially those who’ve passed.

    There are a lot of men on here whose opinions I pay attention to, who just happen to be independents, and they remain that way for their own reasons. I respect and admire that a helluva lot more than some clown who puts a contrived “patch” on his back because he just has to belong to something, but hasn’t got the required mustard.

    Oh, and then there’s patch flippers. They seem to be a recent reoccurring and problematic phenomenon. And don’t even get me started on “bikers” whose idea of a ride is to the downtown bar. LOL

    Just my two cents. Probably what it’s worth, too.

  25. Tomo Says:

    @ ABikerWithAnOpinion: the term ‘humans living in harmony’ is a dream, a belief similar to religious beliefs – a perfection that’s unattainable so you’ve got something to strive for.
    What if you accept that humans are, and always will be tribal?
    Just my own observation, but men and women want to something that makes them feel secure because the group holds similar values and beliefs. Religion wouldn’t have survived this long if it didn’t tap into an almost genetic need to say ‘I’m right, you’re not so right’; people also like a few rules and regulations to abide by too. Violence, intimidation, politics, all part and parcel of it.
    Maybe in another thousand years we’ll evolve a ‘love and respect everybody’ genetic disposition. I sincerely doubt it. Nature doesn’t evolve by everybody getting along.
    Choose a group of like minded people, and hope that when the shit hits the fan, they’ll be there at your side. Because I can guarantee you the police and the politicans will be the last ones to arrive.
    It’s not just MCs who get that, my local Asian community gets that, so do the Eastern Europeans, and Chinese.

    Anyways, I’m rambling, just my 2 cents as they say, stay safe.

  26. Sieg Says:

    ABikerWithTheOpinionHe’sBeenToldHeHas.

    You sound like the urine odor website.

    You obviously have no clue, ZERO, about the relationships between actual Clubs, the CoC, etc., so instead of trying to tell people that do, howsabout you go back and do some studying, try to figure it out? And no, that doesn’t mean “well explain it AGAIN”, it means do some studying. Looking at your post, the answers to each and every one of your questions/statements, have been posted on this site, oh, at least a dozen times. Read and learn.

    Drone, the gump-unit is down the hall, why don’t you suck your way down there.

    FTF/FTP
    TOSIAR

  27. ABikerWithAnOpinion Says:

    In no way do I support the cops or the Feds trying to come down on any MC. But it’s time that the business of some clubs telling other clubs that either they can’t fly whatever patch or even be a club ends. This problem is what gives the Feds and the cops the excuse they are looking for to come down on everyone. This practice of fighting for this territory or what someone else’s bottom rocker reads is the main obstacle to lasting peace in the MC community.

    If a group of guys want to get together to form their own club, instead of trying to either force them to wear a support patch or telling them they can’t be their own club, the established clubs and COC’s should welcome them in and make sure they understand the protocols of relations with other clubs so that peace can be maintained.

    It’s time for unity in the MC community and the only way for that to happen is for all MC’s to call a true and take on a “live and let live” attitude when it comes to neighboring clubs. If the MC community is to survive, we’ve got to adapt and change or the Feds will snuff us all out before it’s said and done. Then nobody will be flying any patches. Is that what we want?

  28. CH Says:

    @ Wolfenlover………………

    AMEN TO THAT!

  29. drone Says:

    Now you guys are starting to make sense….” Our only solution is our own revolution ” Good stuff. Trouble is, You have a bunch of billy badasses who really don’t care about anything…. change that and maybe things will be better… but I honestly see no hope considering all the meth being smoked….. but maybe im wrong and its ALLLLLLLL THE COPS FAULT…but I don’t think I’m wrong at all.. stop ruining yourselves… stop trying to play it off like its just the corrupt government crap and look in the mirror…. do you hold your MC leaders to the same standards that you do to government officials?

  30. Wolfenlover Says:

    Not sure just where I read it or by whom (probably HERE)but the gist of it was
    “What if this has the opposite effect of what the feds are trying for.”(Meaning WACKO specifically)
    With the showing of Clubs getting along while attending Bandido Candyman1%’s
    funeral, I’m really hoping this statement isn’t just hope or wishful thinking.
    I believe it is inevitable or the lifestyle & culture are truly doomed. I’m
    hoping that the cooler heads of ALL MC’s are now in the process of framing
    a total alliance against ALL of our common enemy, from those elected/bought
    to office, to those bastards with guns & badges. TOSIAR or The Only Solution
    Is Our Own Revolution

    RESPECTS Rebel & to the regulars

  31. FF Says:

    @Randy in Pensacola

    Not one where toolboxes like George Bush SR, JR, Bill Clinton, Obamugabe, Bob Dole, Hanoi John Kerry, Juan McAmnesty, Dhimmi Carter et al get to become or have a shot to become President, no I don’t.

  32. Mike184 Says:

    “Obviously after Waco you can see they’re not afraid of pulling a gun,” Fleming said.

    Wow these guys… After Waco everyone is afraid. Afraid that the 5-Oh are going to start blasting as soon as they see you. Those guys really put out an intellegent message. Lets escalate tensions. Now everyone figures that a gun battle is going to happen right off the bat. Reality is that with cops on high alert there are likely to be some wrongful shootings and probably some more executions.

  33. Tom Says:

    Damn this shit keeps getting deeper. Someone seems to want to pick a fight with bikers or provoke one.

  34. Base Says:

    The murders of 9 and the and total disregard for public safety and peoples right’s to due process by the fed & state authority’s in Texas screams

    “STFU & SIT DOWN!”

    In a break room or water cooler conversation at work a couple co-workers & myself talked about Wack-a-do (Waco). Well they did most of the talking because I’m more of a listener. But,one person who was attempting to be the know it all sounded like talking points straight off of Fox or MSNBC, but when he started spouting off about he knew this about MC’s & that about 1%’ers I could tell he was drawing his vast knowledge from gang land & I called him on it.

    Don’t get me wrong, I am a firm believer that people are allowed to have an opinion. But when someone is spitting half truths or straight out lie’s. I have issue with that. Especially when other less informed people are listening to him like he was some sort of authority on the topic.

    The reality? He knew nothing but what he’s been spoon fed. He still won’t talk to me because I busted him out. Poor ignorant fool!

    The thing that pushed me to go in on him was a a common phrase that has been stated not only by J Q public, news agency’s & even out of the motorcycle community.

    “90% of the people arrested are good people”

    When I hear or read that particular phrase or similar sentence’s it dig’s a little deeper because it by passes “DUE PROCESS” The government & all these fucked up power hungry Holier-than-thou shit heads have flipped the script from innocent until proven guilty to guilty until you prove your innocent bull shit. Or, guilty because I don’t like you!

    Here is a phrase that people should be saying

    ” The only solution is another revolution”

    It is way past time to clean house, starting with the big white one in DC.

    Head on a swivel
    Base

  35. Randy in Pensacola Says:

    @FF … you don’t think there’s a “political system’ in the 1% world?

  36. Wookiee Says:

    @Calvin,John
    a red and black flash cross on the lower left hand side of their Cuts signify that they have a CPL. A smaller matching pin on the front upper right of the Cut is supposed to be a sign that they are actively carrying but because they use pin lockers on then normally it doesn’t mean that they do have a firearm with them. Because it is not a required item on their Cuts not everyone utilizes the set up or have moved to remove them because it has become common knowledge and they don’t want to cause problems by people assuming they are carrying whether they are at the time or not

  37. FF Says:

    @aka rc

    I think you kind of miss the whole point of what a counterculture or subculture is all about.

    I’m drawn to the 1%, MC world because I DON’T WANT anything to do with any political system.

    I just want to be left alone. The only thing I might share in common with the rest of society outside ws Malum in se. But those who call men criminals because of malum prohibitum, I won’t associate with them. And I damn sure aint aligning with anybody who dosn’t share my value system, especially for some temory convenienc.

    Principles above all else. Your dignity is the one thing NO ONE can take from you, yu can only agree to give it up.

  38. Meh Says:

    “I would highly recommend that as MRO’s have abandoned us, they should be abandoned as well and replaced asap with people who are not sleeping with the enemy and have balls enough to risk a night or two in jail themselves.”

    Those orgs never really gave a shit in most cases which is why they cannot unseat politicians as can serious lobbies like the NRA. Citizens lobbies should not see their job as cupping balls but as ranging from useful cooperation to support good representatives to dedicated Constitutional political attack to remove toxic officials.

    If a “bikers rights” group is more about partying and less about politics, it’s “partying with an excuse”. For example the self-congradulatory “charity run” fetish which has taken the place of political rallies. Charity runs feel good but they don’t SHOW that bikers VOTE en bloc LOCALLY sufficient to fucking tip political races!

  39. aka rc Says:

    As has been warned. Though there is years of history of numerous LEA investigations/involvement in trying to demonize motorcyclists, the recent failure of the mainstream media to engage in fact finding, i.e. real journalism, preferring instead to regurgitate the rantings of Swanton and his like, coupled with the silence on the so called MC rights spokespersons (and I say that as I attempt to choke down an enormous amount of bile) in the motorcycle rights arena bodes for bad times a comin.

    Failure to get in front of this steamroller expeditiously and with vigor may kill a lifestyle, i.e ours!

    I would highly recommend that as MRO’s have abandoned us, they should be abandoned as well and replaced asap with people who are not sleeping with the enemy and have balls enough to risk a night or two in jail themselves.

    Otherwise, kiss it all goodbye. Because as the momentum grows it will be harder to stop.

  40. Demon.xxx Says:

    No suprise, who cares about atf gunrunning to mexico, a guy on a motorcycle thinks he is free, gov cant be haven that,

  41. JohnnyD Says:

    It looks as if they are going after political and charitable activities. Any thing that would cast a fair light on motorcycle clubs is probably fair game. ACAB

  42. Calvin, John Says:

    Be advised, any IO flashing a Maltese Cross on their vests are indeed carrying a concealed hand gun. If you are bringing Wives, Girl Friends or Children to motorcycle events be they national rallies like Sturgis or Bike Night at the local Dairy Queen, if these Dirty Bastards show up, you and your loved ones are in very real danger. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t back down from IO members regardless however, I also wouldn’t allow any of them near anyone I cared about. They tend to drink too much then get stupider than usual. They will always claim self defense and the Cops tend to give them warnings where anyone else would get incarcerated or shot. All I’m saying is, until such time as this menace to society can be done away with, its best to stay clear especially if accompanied by loved ones who cannot defend themselves. There is no difference between the IO and the Russian Government Red Wolves, the fix is in for both. The IO’s main aim is acceptance into traditional MC culture, ignore them, avoid them or fight them but do so without risking the life and limb of those you care about. The IO are murderous sociopaths, bet on it.

    Jc

  43. popeye Says:

    I was wondering what had happened to the urine odor and what how them seat sniffers played into all this. Should have guessed they wouldnt be far . Fuck the police. Fuck the iron order

  44. Sieg Says:

    “They’re going to proclaim that Texas is theirs and that’s their turf and then they’re going to have to do something to protect it and that means violence. Obviously after Waco you can see they’re not afraid of pulling a gun,”

    Is this fool talking about the local pigs, or the atf?

    TOSIAR

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