Oh Joy A New Felony

April 7, 2014

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There is a proposed law in New York that would create “the crime of aggravated harassment of a police officer or peace officer.” Really. The new crime would be a Class E felony.

This absolutely essential tool for the perfection of humanity by expanding police power is the invention of Republican State Senator Joe Griffo who explains, “Police officers who risk their lives every day in our cities and on our highways deserve every possible protection, and those who treat them with disrespect, harass them and create situations that can lead to injuries deserve to pay a price for their actions.”

Griffo continues: “At a time when shocking incidents of disrespect and outright confrontation are at an all-time high, the men and women who patrol the streets of our cities deserve every possible protection we can offer them. My bill would make it a crime to take any type of physical action to try to intimidate a police officer. This is a necessary action because we can see from the rise in incidents that too many people in our society have lost the respect they need to have for a police officer. We need to make it very clear that when a police officer is performing his duty, every citizen needs to comply and that refusal to comply carries a penalty.”

Passed State Senate

Cynics may note that generally all that is needed to be convicted of touching a police officer is for two policemen, one of who doesn’t even to be there at the time, to swear on their sacred honor that the convict to be touched one of them. The new crime would be punishable by four years in a penitentiary.

This astounding idea was designated Bill S2402 and it passed the New York Senate last Wednesday. To become law it must next be passed by the New York State Assembly. The Bill contains the statement: “Police officers all across this state put their lives on the line every day to protect the people of New York. New York State must establish laws and toughen existing laws that protect the police from becoming victims of criminals. Far too many law enforcement officers are being harassed, injured, even killed while honoring their commitment to protect and serve this state. The Legislature has a responsibility to do everything we can to protect our brave heroes, our police officers, from violent criminals. This legislation contributes to that premise.”

The proposed law would take effect “on the first of November next succeeding the date on which it shall have become a law.”

Cops Love It

The actual language of the proposed law states: “A person is guilty of aggravated harassment of a police officer or peace officer when, with the intent to harass, annoy, threaten or alarm a person whom he or she knows or reasonably should know to be a police officer or peace officer engaged in the course of performing his or her official duties, he or she strikes, shoves, kicks or otherwise subjects such person to physical contact.” You know, like striking his fist with your face.

Cops love the idea. Utica Police Chief Mark Williams issued a press release that read: “Our police officers have a very dangerous job and need the support of our government leaders to help make them safe. All too often persons are physically challenging police officers in the line of duty. Currently in those instances where an officer is physically attacked (short of sustaining a physical injury) the lawful charge is only a violation. The consequences are way too low for the offender and it sends the wrong message to the public. Police officers are the public’s first line of defense to restore order in dangerous/chaotic situations. Citizens do not have the legal right to physically challenge the authority of an officer lawfully performing their duties. Threats, intimidation and physical force used upon our police officers not only erode respect for our criminal justice system, but also endanger the public as well.”




114 Responses to “Oh Joy A New Felony”

  1. Paul Says:

    @Mag, I do agree that nothing is over until it is over. And anything worth having you have to work for. FNG elaborated my thoughts way better regarding why I believe presently it would not work.

    @Jim666, we have the best govt money can buy.

    @FNG, you bring up a good point of uniting disparate elements. Only way I see that working is when we acknowledge the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And once we’re done, you go to your corner and I go to mine and we don’t meet again.

    @Paladin, good stuff. You and several of the regulars here always have something good, thank you.

  2. rollinnorth Says:

    “No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans.”

    – Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval


  3. jj solari Says:

    dear rollinnorth: thanks for the Hippynews Peace Love update. now that i know this is really about fracking and lower prices for me at the pump, screw the bundys’ and their cattle. bring on the water-pressurized earthquakes, WOO HOO!!!! 5 cents a gallon, baby!! five cents a gallon!!!

  4. dizzydesi Says:

    @FNG All too true. That’s why i needa wait on the masses just like Paul says when it hurts the masses enough then the masses will wake up and maybe come together… For now I’m just a small slip of a girl but I’m awake at least… And right now just chillin’ and learning from others, learning, growing and learning to be self sufficient… Lol… Latigo, there’s more wild boar, wild chickens, pheasants on this island than there are people.. Better than any shopping in the mall on the mainland. Oh i love the mountain and the forests, eating dinner under the stars over a fire… We are cut off from everything… I Love it!!

    I’ve picked up books from the library in town yesterday thanks for the recommendations… And yes Paladin we so love the stories as well as the insight from you and others posts… These dialogues are very important to us… There ARE leaders.. When people realize they need them they will find them at least…



  5. Paladin Says:

    “Another issue is the increasing dependence of this country’s citizenry on the government. Since the dawn of the industrialized age in this country, people have slowly become less able to support themselves without some form of government intervention. Everything people rely on, from the electrical grid to roads, is controlled or maintained by the government. This reliance is more common than any race or religion. Thus, any threat to the governmental system would pose an perceived existential threat to the way of life of a huge swath of Americans, their income, and their ability to provide for their families.”

    FNG & Desi,

    Society’s dependence on technology and Government has always been relative to the times. We tend to look to the past and wonder how people survived their hardships without the technology of today. Past generations did just fine, because the technology of their time overcame the hardships of their time. A wringer washer was a vast improvement over a tub of soapy water and a scrub board, which was a big improvement over pounding your cloths on a flat rock next to a stream etc.

    In order to effectively represent the needs of the people, an expanding population will require a government to match. Benefits of this can be seen in this Country’s highway system, food inspection etc. These are tangibles that benefit everyone. Again; we look back and wonder how we ever got along without this Country’s highway system and how did anyone survive the appalling conditions that existed in the meat processing plants of the past? I don’t think anyone wants to eat non-inspected beef, poultry, or fish. Nor do we want to travel on unimproved muddy, pot hole strewn roads.

    Government runs afoul of the people it represents when it intrudes into and attempts to regulate the lives of individuals. This is especially true in this Country, where we have the “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness” escape clause written into our Country’s Constitution.

    In order for any protest to morph into a successful movement, it MUST garner the empathy of the citizenry at large. One only has to look to this Country’s civil rights movement or the movement that hastened our Country’s departure from Vietnam, to see this truth.

    Empathy means putting yourself in another’s shoes and feeling what they are feeling. Empathy is a product of perception. A protest is an attempt to change the perception of the citizenry. A protest becomes a movement when the citizenry’s perceptions are changed, thereby garnering empathy toward the given cause. The protest and backlash against the Connecticut Government’s attempt at banning “assault weapon” ownership and the current plight of the rancher in Nevada are prime examples of protests that are garnering empathy from the citizenry. Save the Patch is no different. In order for Save the Patch to be successful, it will have to change the citizenry’s perception of MCs and the biker lifestyle. Doing so will garner empathy. Without the public’s empathy, Save the Patch will never be anything more than a charity drive for the Mongols.

    Successful movements are those that demand and force a change on the way a Government does business. The short comings of the protests that developed after the incidents at Ruby Ridge, ID and Waco, TX were that neither morphed into a movement. In both instances, the Government vowed to launch an investigation, hold hearings etc. which were nothing more than smoke and mirrors and a calculated move on the Government’s part to stall and kill any momentum and empathy that either of these protests may have garnered. As a result, our Country’s Government has become even more oppressive. The Government’s attitude was and is: Hey, we weren’t stopped when we last trampled the Constitution and its Bill of Rights, so I guess we’re still good to go!
    It is an absolute fact that the citizenry of any Country gets nothing more than the type and quality of government it demands.

    Long May You Ride,


  6. ashleyistwisted Says:

    Hey Paladin, Always good stuff from you, and Mag, Sieg, and rest here, even if I don’t have time to post or just don’t have to contribute i was get so much just lurking.. Lol..

    So basically it’s all about the masses wanting or doing something and seeing our view or rather ‘feeling’ our causes or ‘feeling’ the common thread that connects us all instead of focusing on the gulf that exists at times most of the time between people.

    We will wait and see… For now me and Desi are taking a breather… Not many protests where we are at now. But if I was back on the mainland I will def road trip it over there at Nevada for Bundy’s Ranch Standoff…

    Some old friends are gonna go.. Don’t know if that will help or hurt.. These days feds hate hackers more than bikers…


  7. ashleyistwisted Says:

    @JJ Solari

    You are such a trip! LMFAO!!!!


  8. Mag Says:

    @Paladin – “It is an absolute fact that the citizenry of any Country gets nothing more than the type and quality of government it demands.”

    This is deeply true.

    When one holds this in mind, and contemplates that not one Federal employee spent one day in jail or paid one dollar in fines – rather, received medals and promotions – after Ruby Ridge and Waco…

    …one draws the conclusion that the nation is demanding suicide. Entitlements and ignorance are merely the poison, and Honey Boo Boo and twerking are the color of the bottle.

  9. Phuquehed Says:

    Good to see that Anonymous is getting in on the Bundy thing too. I got nothing but utter respect for those in Anonymous. They’re doing things and for the right reasons and the right fights.

  10. Paladin Says:


    Roger that.

    Long May You Ride,


  11. FNG Says:

    First, let me say that your observations are spot-on, as usual.
    The only reason I bring that up is to highlight the difference between revolution and reform. As you pointed out, a growing society requires a growing government to provide some of its fundamental needs. The problem with a revolution is that it would, by its nature, destroy the current system. At the very least, this will cause serious disruption of these services, if not their outright termination. The concept of this is intolerable to most Americans.
    Reforms never last. They only delay the inevitable for a short time. Take, for example, the protests that got us out of Vietnam. Did those protests prevent us from invading Iraq years later under an extremely weak pretext? And, just like Vietnam, we have been engaged in conflict with a philosophy instead of having clear, militarily achievable goals.
    For me, the real problem is the increasing lack of a cohesive American culture. People in this nation are no longer expected to assimilate the ideals of our forebears, which is obviously to our detriment. Other cultures place less value on things like hard work, honesty, accountability, and human life. These cultural mores were once forgotten as immigrants moved to this country, but now people are more insistent on “preserving” their culture, even if it runs contrary to traditional American values. Furthermore, the counter-cultures of the 60s have spawned new and more destructive fragmentary subcultures across this nation. Examples of these are some of the entitled behaviors to which you referred earlier.
    Waco and Ruby Ridge never became movements because their protagonists were largely viewed as what some might call “wingnuts”. David Koresh told people he was Christ… That’s hardly as convincing a banner to march behind as all the lives lost in Vietnam. Obviously, the methods of the government were criminally extreme in those cases, but the government knows that people are far less likely to care if the impact of their actions effects those whom have shunned mainstream society.
    There would be more blowback if the US banned twerking.

  12. Paladin Says:

    FNG & those interested in Saving the Patch,

    A successful protest brings to the attention of a targeted audience, a grievance that the protesters want addressed. While garnering the needed attention, the protesters must simultaneously broadcast information (propaganda) that informs, educates, and enlightens the targeted audience, thereby changing the targeted audience’s perception of the perceived status quo.

    Law enforcement (local, State, and federal) with the media’s help have long told the public that OMCs are criminal organizations / enterprises, a threat to public safety, and as of late, domestic terrorists. Because these distortions are never publicly challenged, the citizenry accepts law enforcement’s erroneous statements and outright lies as fact. The citizenry reasons: Well, if it wasn’t so, wouldn’t someone say something? All the citizenry hears from the MC camp, is the sound of crickets.

    What do you think the public’s perception of law enforcement would be, if they were informed, educated, and enlightened to the following?

    From 01/2010 through 12/2010, there were 4,861 reports of police misconduct reported that involved 6,613 sworn law enforcement officers, 354 were agency leaders such as chiefs or sheriffs. There were 6,826 alleged victims involved, with 247 fatalities associated with tracked reports. There was an estimated $346,512,800 spent on misconduct-related civil judgments and settlements. This amount excludes sealed settlements, court costs, and attorney fees.

    The above information wasn’t handed to me by a mole in a trench coat, meeting me in a parking structure, at the stroke of midnight. It was found on the Internet. There is much more (31 pages) in the posted link. I just wanted to post the highlights. http://www.policemisconduct.net/statistics/2010-annual-report/

    Propaganda is a powerful tool. It’s been used since recorded history to sway public opinion. To ignore the use of propaganda as a tool, is to render your protest moot.

    At this point in time, bikers and the MCs of today have something in common with Vietnam’s NVCP of 1959. They have everything to win and everything to lose.

    Long May You Ride (to those that deserve to),


  13. dizzydesi Says:

    I would think to Save The Patch make it relateable to the public I’d add Save The Patch – Another Fight for The First Amendment.. Make some cozy videos by some tech savvy folks with bikers explaining to the public who they are and why… That they simply want to be free to be different and not be continuously discriminated against or profiled. Show bikers with their families. A doe eyed son or daughter tugging on a leg. A cute missing tooth murmuring “That’s my Daddy..”… A dog. A rescue dog. A rescue dog with three legs… A biker holding the three legged dog stating “They were gonna put him down but I thought he was worth saving..” Then he looks at the camera like he’s just someone else worth saving too… A biker helping an old lady in a wheelchair. smiling sweetly to her as they open doors for the elderly, pat kids on the head. making a very approachable view to folks… Go to some good causes. Not just Toy runs but announce they are showing up for year round causes. Support causes other people support.. Hey like the Bundy plight… Basically get a PR thing going. Pump out some videos and youtubing it facebooking it BEYOND the biker community to the mainstream. to other folks… Put that image out there that they are who they are but underneath it all they are just like everybody else, with families, sweet grandmothers. three legged rescue dogs. (make it a cute dog at least not some mangy thing you would rather see put down.) but something that makes you go Awwww… Show a gentle side, a charitable side, and fighting for their rights just like others. Tug at the heartstrings… Like the three legged mutt an appeal to “Save us! Don’t let them put us down!!” Of course they will have to be open to that sort of thing.. LEO and media says something they should have an answer back with their own story. LEO and media gonna dish out their spin. Spin back. and then youtube it all over. regular media don’t? well these days many folks are going to alternative news channels everyday.. Put themselves out there. Put a positive spin, positive picture/video of themselves out there that the public will relate to and ’empathize’ with. (right Paladin?)..

    Just my thoughts,


  14. Paladin Says:


    The most susceptible to law enforcement abuse and the one’s that see it on a reoccurring basis, are the individuals living at, or just above the poverty line.

    When the media reports law enforcement abuse, it shocks the sensibilities of the middle and upper class, but is soon forgotten because this abuse rarely (if ever) affects them personally. However; With the help of visual aides that speak to the facts, figures, and the wasted taxpayer expense associated with law enforcement abuse, the citizenry is educated to a reality that the Government will be hard pressed to spin. This is especially true when the exact number and type of crime committed by law enforcement is compared to the exact number and type of crime committed by members of the MC subculture.

    Since 09/11, the word “Hero” has been over used by local, State, and federal law enforcement agencies, to the point of embarrassment. If a carrier in law enforcement was as hazardous and death defying as the above mentioned agencies would have the public believe, no one would be signing up.

    The citizenry needs to be educated to the fact that even when compared in a ratio context, there are as many, if not more crimes committed by members of the law enforcement community than committed by members of the MC subculture.

    When embarrassed by scandal, the law enforcement community is ever eager to reaffirm the fact that not all cops are crooks, and that a few bad apples don’t spoil the whole bunch. The citizenry needs to be educated to the fact that the same holds true within the MC subculture as well.

    To answer your question; I think what you suggest would be one facet of a PR campaign that’s long over due.

    Long May You Ride,


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